Are selfless driving cars the future?

I hope they exist. It'll be like taking the train...but better.

I just will not be in the first ones released...perhaps after a few accidents, product recalls, and the market becomes saturated THEN i'll get one...until then ill watch and read about it on the sidelines.
 
Even if they do perfect it, do you all think most people would be able to afford it, or even trust it?
 
The trust will come along as the media pushes the technology and immediate family and friends praise the technology. Like anything, it will become available in all vehicles at all price points.

Imagine taking this to another level and making the cars fly at set altitudes based on the driver and other factors. That would really reduce traffic.
 
if everybody has one, just the time saved in traffic jams would be great.

Plus doing something else like sleeping / catching up with the news / preparing for work / studying would be great.


I don't know when, but it will be the norm one day.
 
Maybe it is me being cynical, but you dudes really think you will take NAPS while that thing is driving and you are the only one in the car?

Stuff is all about foundations. Our foundations are based in humans driving cars. So humans driving cars is what is "right" to us. So I don't think any of us will honestly ever feel THAT comfortable with that technology. Maybe people born in 2030 will be more likely to trust that technology, but as for US trusting it, I can't see that happening.

Using it, sure. Sleeping and having sex in a autopiloted car? Yea ok
 
Has to have some kind of override function that allows you to takeover if the car starts malfunctioning
 
It will absolutely catch on. As humans, we are too unpredictable in our habits and try to focus on multiple things at once because we think we can handle them even though we can't. Between all the accidents, deaths, traffic caused by erratic driving, and need for traffic lights, I see driverless cars becoming something that will be in huge demand in the next 10 years. Combine that with an Uber/taxi model where you can select a different car based on your needs that day to come pick you up from your house or work and this will be the biggest disruptor since the internet. Need a truck to move? You've got one today. Need a van to haul the team? BAM! Commuting to work? Pick a single seat car. Not to mention all the wasted space we use for parking our cars. Our cars are only in a given spot for about 8 hours a day, while our "other" spot at home or work is sitting empty. A more efficient model would be to have self driving cars using a large parking lot on the outskirts of town that are constantly in use and save the extra space around office buildings and houses for better uses than storing our cars.

Here's a famous example of how we humans cause most of the traffic that we see on a daily basis.

 
 
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Maybe it is me being cynical, but you dudes really think you will take NAPS while that thing is driving and you are the only one in the car?

Stuff is all about foundations. Our foundations are based in humans driving cars. So humans driving cars is what is "right" to us. So I don't think any of us will honestly ever feel THAT comfortable with that technology. Maybe people born in 2030 will be more likely to trust that technology, but as for US trusting it, I can't see that happening.

Using it, sure. Sleeping and having sex in a autopiloted car? Yea ok
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I would take a nap. Put the car in awareness mode then catch some zzz
 
Self driving busses in small communities will catch on within a year or two.

These cars are already more reliable than human drivers. Obvious next step in the auto industry.

We need to get everyone on electric tho
 
sea manup said:
Self driving busses in small communities will catch on within a year or two.

These cars are already more reliable than human drivers. Obvious next step in the auto industry.

We need to get everyone on electric tho
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How are they more reliable than human drivers?
 
Only if all cars are automated. Otherwise, I have to be convinced that the cars can efficiently adjust to the stupidity of human drivers.
 
i have a touring 2016 honda accord and it dives itself on the highway its so craze best car i ever owned
 
DCAllAmerican said:
sea manup said:
Self driving busses in small communities will catch on within a year or two.


These cars are already more reliable than human drivers. Obvious next step in the auto industry.


We need to get everyone on electric tho
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How are they more reliable than human drivers?
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http://www.cnbc.com/2014/09/08/self-driving-cars-safer-than-those-driven-by-humans-bob-lutz.html

Lots of other similar articles but I'm on mobile

Add in the fact that the artificial intelligence is going to rapidly improve over time while people don't.
 
I actually like driving, I would never want one, but I sure hope they become commercially viable so those people who don't like driving and text and Instagram on the road don't have to risk losing control of their car.
 
sea manup said:
http://www.cnbc.com/2014/09/08/self-driving-cars-safer-than-those-driven-by-humans-bob-lutz.html

Lots of other similar articles but I'm on mobile

Add in the fact that the artificial intelligence is going to rapidly improve over time while people don't.
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Did you actually read that article man? What EVIDENCE shows AI Cars are safer than human driven cars? That article is just rattling off a bunch of hypotheticals and conditioned situations.

You can't say AI cars are safer because AI cars aren't in the same scenarios as human driven cars and there isn't as extensive of a history of AI car performance. Nah man. Just no.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
sea manup said:
http://www.cnbc.com/2014/09/08/self-driving-cars-safer-than-those-driven-by-humans-bob-lutz.html


Lots of other similar articles but I'm on mobile


Add in the fact that the artificial intelligence is going to rapidly improve over time while people don't.
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Did you actually read that article man? What EVIDENCE shows AI Cars are safer than human driven cars? That article is just rattling off a bunch of hypotheticals and conditioned situations.

You can't say AI cars are safer because AI cars aren't in the same scenarios as human driven cars and there isn't as extensive of a history of AI car performance. Nah man. Just no.
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Well yeah, because these cars are still in development and there are a bunch of regulations that need to be changed before they become street legal.

But if you can't see why logically machines can be better drivers than people than you need to educate yourself on technology.

Why do you think they won't be safer?
 
Right, so if they are still in development, why are you saying they ARE (present tense) safer than humans?

That would be like you telling me your 6 year old little brother has a cleaner police record than me. Well of course, he hasn't lived any life yet.

I wouldn't even compare the two because there are circumstances that will always need human influence. So when that happens, a human would be safer. It isn't a direct comparison because the human element always has an influence on the ability to drive a car.

But a machine is a machine and machines make mistakes as well. 

So I don't see the argument as to which one is "Safer."
 
heres another article with quantitative data

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/07/17/google-self-driving-autonomous-car-accident-california/

6 years of testing, 14 minor collisions, 0 caused by the machine. 

From data like this its obvious that in the local driving conditions, the google cars are safer to be in than the average human driven car. From that you take into account the standard at which google is testing for safety and you can assume that these cars will be just as safe when released to all roads across country.

However, currently data shows that even at this stage of development these cars ARE safer than human drivers.

could you give an example of a circumstance that requires human influence when talking about driving from point a to point b? The argument is almost entirely about which is safer. 
 
No data is good enough because humans have over 60 years of data when it comes to driving on roads. These new cars don't have that have that level of data.

An example was already given earlier where human decision making would be more useful than the AI
 
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