kids aint safe these days man

rillo561 said:

So the kid had drugs and used them on campus, but was never suspended, expelled or arrested? Not saying you're lying, but it's pretty hard to believe.

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Rolaholic said:

It is a girl though

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Mr Fongstarr said:

@Edshoecator What if the kid just leaves and doesn't listen to you that way? Do you ultimately just have someone call the parents? What is the most constructive way to handle this where you are "reinforcing positive behavior as the replacement." I am actually asking just to ask cause I don't know.


My buddy is a substitute teacher. He told me a kid lit up a joint and smoked in class in front of him. He called security to get him out of there and he was taken to the office. The next day, the kid was back in class. The only reinforcement he got was he can't be touched and the kids in his class think he's the man.

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Deuce King said:

"Resident Educator".....meaning a rookie or newbie to teaching is that correct?

Talk to a group of teachers that have been teaching for years and you will get an array of different responses and suggestions....even those saying discipline as such is necessary.

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Edshoecator said:

Mr Fongstarr said:

@Edshoecator What if the kid just leaves and doesn't listen to you that way? Do you ultimately just have someone call the parents? What is the most constructive way to handle this where you are "reinforcing positive behavior as the replacement." I am actually asking just to ask cause I don't know.


My buddy is a substitute teacher. He told me a kid lit up a joint and smoked in class in front of him. He called security to get him out of there and he was taken to the office. The next day, the kid was back in class. The only reinforcement he got was he can't be touched and the kids in his class think he's the man.

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If it was my class I would have told her to see me after class and chop it up with her. I have no problem respecting a child if I'm asking the child to respect me. It's a 2 way street. Leave your ego at the door and remember some of these kids are here just for food, an escape from their reality.

If they walk out, I document it and follow up with the student and refer them to their counselor and get in touch with parents so we're all on the same page.

Weed is a police matter and should be referred to the dean who will contact school police.

Deuce King said:

"Resident Educator".....meaning a rookie or newbie to teaching is that correct?

Talk to a group of teachers that have been teaching for years and you will get an array of different responses and suggestions....even those saying discipline as such is necessary.

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Yeah, only been doing it for 15 years

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Edshoecator said:

If it was my class I would have told her to see me after class and chop it up with her. I have no problem respecting a child if I'm asking the child to respect me. It's a 2 way street. Leave your ego at the door and remember some of these kids are here just for food, an escape from their reality.

If they walk out, I document it and follow up with the student and refer them to their counselor and get in touch with parents so we're all on the same page.

Weed is a police matter and should be referred to the dean who will contact school police.
Yeah, only been doing it for 15 years

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Edshoecator said:

Resident educator here.

First, don't get banned arguing with these closeted racists who hate Black and Browns and love cops ( wont say white cops but you make that assumption based on their replies).

Back to the topic.

First rule of teaching: never take it personal.

The issue with most teachers is their lack of rapport building with students.

Just like some of us bring 'home' to work, some kids are brining their 'home' to class.

A lot of misinformation in here as well...especially from cub blood.

Teachers CAN defend themselves and CAN restrain students.

I work sped, and I'm trained in Non Violent Crisis Intervention, but the same course is open to all teachers.

The gist: last resort, only if the student presents a danger to themselves, classmate, or staff; I.e, about to jump out a window, using a weapon, etc...

So you're telling me that a student who isn't disrupting class ( teachers ego got hurt and made it an issue), just sitting there warrants a choke hold, body slam to a mop the floor drag and toss?

The teacher is soft
The admin is soft
The cop is a ****

You ignore the negative behavior so you can work on reinforcing positive behavior as the replacement.

You do all this by finding the trigger.

You do this by being consistent.

A simple " see me after class" would have sufficed

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HarlemToTheBronx said:

This line of thinking is absurd. Is this really your justification? Instilling fear in students sounds like a wonderful environment to learn in.

I understand there are situations where force may be needed. I understand children his age need to be taught discipline. But to justify that act of force by saying 'she'll know better next time' blows my mind.

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Deuce King said:

That's why I ASKED you the question. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Like I said I know teachers that wouldn't mind an SRO coming in their classroom and taking care of business as such. Like all kids are perfect little angels. If they haven't been taught discipline at home...they are going to learn as they cross paths with different people in life. Better late than never.

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JJs07 said:

For a student like this, who is being blatantly disrespectful...I don't think a "see me after class" would probably do the trick. If there is zero respect towards the teacher and the administration, then there is probably zero chance that the student would actually try to stay after class to have a chat w/ the teacher.

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silkboi said:

JJs07 said:

For a student like this, who is being blatantly disrespectful...I don't think a "see me after class" would probably do the trick. If there is zero respect towards the teacher and the administration, then there is probably zero chance that the student would actually try to stay after class to have a chat w/ the teacher.

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Then have them suspended. You don't need to call the cops to jack em up.

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Especially if being "blatantly disrespectful" means not paying attention in class or putting your phone away while you're sitting in your desk. I'm just basing on what I've read. It would be different if she was all up in the teacher's face talking ****.

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DatZNasty said:

Where are the videos of raged up black cops body slamming little white girls for extremely trivial offenses?

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Bonez7 back said:

Buddy in the Ninja Turtles gear just waiting for class to resume

Cowards

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JJs07 said:

For a student like this, who is being blatantly disrespectful...I don't think a "see me after class" would probably do the trick. If there is zero respect towards the teacher and the administration, then there is probably zero chance that the student would actually try to stay after class to have a chat w/ the teacher.

Maybe there needs to be more training, but after a quick google search, I did come across this article:

Maine teachers say new restraint rule leads to assaults by students

While edshoecator is correct in that restraint is allowed in some instances, there are many states/counties/etc. who don't have those same rules in place. And as the article highlighted, many teachers who value their jobs are unsure of what they can/can't do in situations where a student is out of control beyond reason.

I wouldn't question the teacher or administrator in this situation. We don't know about S. Carolina's or the school district's protocol regarding restraining a student.

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