kids aint safe these days man

ksteezy said:
If the child doesn't leave the room, let her be and deal with it after class, body slamming a child to the ground is NOT the answer man...why is that so hard to understand?...

All this was, is egos hurt and a pissing match between a child and a bunch of immature adults who felt the best way to handle the situation was to stoop down to the mentality of a 13 year old or however old she is.
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You have other students in the class and you're compromising their learning by leaving her there.

Like DC said, I am in no way condoning what the officer did...but leaving her there and trying to continue teaching isn't optimal or fair to the other kids in the room.
 
If that girl stays in the room and continues doing what SHE wants to do, it will KILL your authority as a teacher. It will KILL it.

Hell for those ot you that have your own kids, if one kid gets away with murder, you don't think the brother will think he can do the same?

So yea, it isn't that simple man. It is complex. No right or wrong or full proof way to deal with stuff like that.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
heLiumcLinton said:
I couldn't imagine something happening to my kid in school and not being able to reach them
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And also, what makes you think that you wouldn't be able to get in contact with the child if something were to happen. When stuff "happened" in the 90s and 00s when cell phones weren't around, how did parents get in contact with kids. Exactly, they can call the school
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K.
 
Ingenious Nick said:
Deuce King said:
What's your suggestion for getting her to leave...pray about it?? Kids don't run the classroom, adults do. As I said before some teachers don't have time or energy to sympathize with kids, as that is truly not their job, just an added tool to use if you have been trained to do so. This particular situation isn't about race to me, but if it is for you and others more power to you. Nobody is playing games with kids out here, not everyone is soft-hearted like you.
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I've seen plenty situations where I've been in class, and kids where either being disrespectful, or on their phone and not listening to instruction. If they were asked to leave and did not comply, here are the actions that were taken.

A. Written up for suspension
B. Security was called to remove the student.
C. Principal or CEO was brought into the class.
D. Phone call home.
E. All the above

There is NEVER an excuse to physically (assault) remove a CHILD who is of no danger to themselves or others.
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Those are great suggestions and all champ, really they are. My question in response would be what would you do if the child still doesn't leave or if the parent doesn't pick up their phone or if the parents does pick up their phone and doesn't care. It definitely happens.
 
I thought a teacher was there to teach, that's the only authority you have. You teach the ones who want to learn, it's simple. You more worried about a kids phone than making sure these kids pass these tests.
 
heLiumcLinton said:
I thought a teacher was there to teach, that's the only authority you have. You teach the ones who want to learn, it's simple. You more worried about a kids phone than making sure these kids pass these tests.
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Obviously. But can you apply what I just bolded to the girl who was tossed?
 
Apply what? If she don't want to learn keep it moving. What was more of a distraction, one student on their phone or you stopping your lesson plan to get 3 other adults to get this girl out the class. Homegirl checking instagram isn't enough to stop teaching the rest of the class.
 
heLiumcLinton said:
Apply what? If she don't want to learn keep it moving. What was more of a distraction, one student on their phone or you stopping your lesson plan to get 3 other adults to get this girl out the class. Homegirl checking instagram isn't enough to stop teaching the rest of the class.
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Exactly, bottomline all I see is 3 adults with Bruced egos and a child being a child....it seems the teacher never had the respect of his students to begin with...is a thin line out there but I know teachers that work in inner city schools and they earned the respect of their students without having to go to lengths, some people know how to teach, others don't.
 
A punk asss teacher, called a punk asss cop, and a young lady dealing with the loss of her mother gets treated worse than a prison inmate.
If your punk asss can't handle urban American kids, then your punk asss don't need to take a job teaching in urban America.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
A
D
E

All mean the student is STILL in the class.

B

C

Can only happen if someone is available, which isn't always true.

So as @Deuce King
 said, if the child isn't going to leave the room, what do you feel should be done?

I am not condoning what happened in the video before anyone says I am siding with the cop
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No, those solutions does not mean the student is still in class. It also depends on the student if he or she is willing to remove themselves. Keep in mind I'm speaking from my middle/high school experience.

The solutions I listed should be the ONLY options. Because anything other than that means physical removal. Which is out if the question for failing to comply to cell phone rules.
 
Ingenious Nick said:
No, those solutions does not mean the student is still in class. It also depends on the student if he or she is willing to remove themselves. Keep in mind I'm speaking from my middle/high school experience.

The solutions I listed should be the ONLY options. Because anything other than that means physical removal. Which is out if the question for failing to comply to cell phone rules.
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I thought we were speaking about THIS situation though, where the student REFUSED to leave Nick.
 
Deuce King said:
Those are great suggestions and all champ, really they are. My question in response would be what would you do if the child still doesn't leave or if the parent doesn't pick up their phone or if the parents does pick up their phone and doesn't care. It definitely happens.
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DCAllAmerican said:
I thought we were speaking about THIS situation though, where the student REFUSED to leave Nick.
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I've seen this exact situation and others like it in classes soooo many times while in school. If all the steps I listed were taken (the one's that can be applied since not all options are available always) then you leave her be.

Continue teaching the class and pay her no mind. Don't take away from students who want to learn because another student doesn't want to. As others have stated, this was an even bigger distraction. Everytime I've seen this happen the teacher address the problem, if that doesn't work continue teaching and handle it after. No physical force needed.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
heLiumcLinton said:
I thought a teacher was there to teach, that's the only authority you have. You teach the ones who want to learn, it's simple. You more worried about a kids phone than making sure these kids pass these tests.
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Aight you can't be serious
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I am

I send my son to school to learn, nothing more nothing less. :lol: @ teachers needing 'authority' to do their job
 
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heLiumcLinton said:
 
DCAllAmerican said:
 
heLiumcLinton said:
I thought a teacher was there to teach, that's the only authority you have. You teach the ones who want to learn, it's simple. You more worried about a kids phone than making sure these kids pass these tests.
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Aight you can't be serious
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I am

I send my son to school to learn, nothing more nothing less.
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@ teachers needing 'authority' to do their job
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they need the students attention to do their job
 
1 student being on the phone texting or whatever should not stop you from teaching the rest of the class.

You're in the wrong field if you can't deal with that.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
Tell that to a teacher that is being observed by an administrator. You are really simplifying that situation but ok
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Then you explain to the administrator of the situation. Like I said I've been in the situation plenty of times, I've been the kid who was on the phone when I wasn't supposed to be. It's really not complicated, people are making it out to be.

DC what would you do ? since everything I say is simplified, I'm curious to hear your pov. Forgive me if you already stated it.

I don't feel digging through the walls of text.
 
Ingenious Nick said:
1 student being on the phone texting or whatever should not stop you from teaching the rest of the class.

You're in the wrong field if you can't deal with that.
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letting one student do whatever he/she wants sets a bad example for the class and distracts others
 
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