kids aint safe these days man

Classrooms are better without Cell Phones. WIth them, kids are distracted, disrespectful, and are missing content. I wish there were mandates against them.

Just place cameras in the classroom to make sure people are safe.
 
 
 
Spring Valley students stage walkout in support of Ben Fields


COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - Students at Spring Valley High School staged a brief walkout in support of school resource officer Ben Fields, the Richland County sheriff's deputy caught on camera slamming and dragging a student out of a desk earlier this week.


Hundreds of students walked out of class around 10 a.m. and into the school's atrium before school administrators returned the students to class.


One administrator told the students that none of them would be suspended.


"We've heard your voices, okay," the administrator said. "We appreciate you taking time to do this, but again, as you know, we always focus on teaching and learning, so let's head on back to class."


Video and photos from the incident captured by students show many of them saying "Free Fields" or wearing T-shirts that say "#BringBackFields."


Fields was fired by Sheriff Leon Lott earlier this week after video of the incident between him and a female student exploded on social media and sparked a nationwide discussion on school resource officers and use of force.


The former deputy also released a statement through his attorney defending his actions.


"We believe that Mr. Fields' actions were justified and lawful throughout the circumstances of which he was confronted during this incident," the attorney's statement said.


We've reached out to the district, who called the walkout "small" and "orderly."



Whoa....
I guess I don't understand why people are saying that leaving the girl in class on her phone would take away from learning time for other students.


Is it disrespectful? Obviously. But you address it, let her (and the rest of the class) know the consequences that will be coming should she not leave the class, give her a chance to comply and if she doesn't, keep it moving. Deal with the consequences of her disrespect later. When she doesn't show up for class because she's suspended the kids may figure out that you weren't joking.


The bigger distraction was calling the cop in and making a scene about a student quietly using their phone during class (which is what other students said she was doing). Not everything is about a show of force/authority for other students to see--this isn't a prison.


I mean, she did have three chances to put her phone away....


Also, if you have someone blatantly disregarding what you're saying and you leave them in the class, how is it not a distraction to everyone else?


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DCAA teaches and he addressed this.


So is 3 times the magic number?  3 times and no complying = tossed across the room?  I'm not sure why the number of times she was given a chance matters, to be honest.  It doesn't change the fact that being flipped over in a desk and chucked across the room doesn't fit the "crime".  

Is stopping class to address a disrespectful student a distraction?  Yes.  Is that student sitting in class quietly on her phone a distraction to other students?  I personally don't think so, especially if you address the situation and let it be known in front of the class the consequences of those actions.  See the problem, address it one time including what will happen if they don't comply and keep it pushing.  Deal with it later.  

What do you think helped the other students lose focus on their studies more?  The girl sitting there on her phone/not wanting to give it up or dealing with seeing a peer flipped over in her desk and thrown across the room?  Sometimes you have to choose your battles.  


Bro...I am in NO WAY arguing that Fields' use of force was necessary. So, don't twist what I'm saying.

If there is a rule in the school prohibiting phones from being out, I don't see why there is so much debate about the measures taken by the teacher and administrators. Rules (in schools) are not there to be broken.

You don't have an optimal learning environment if you have a student in the class being ALLOWED to break rules. It's not fair to the other kids who are trying to learn.

I thought a teacher was there to teach, that's the only authority you have. You teach the ones who want to learn, it's simple. You more worried about a kids phone than making sure these kids pass these tests.
Aight you can't be serious
I am

I send my son to school to learn, nothing more nothing less. :lol: @ teachers needing 'authority' to do their job

And if you catch wind of a student causing a problem being LEFT in the class, don't you think that your child's education is being compromised...especially if they're being a distraction?

You want to do what's right by your child.
How is a child on their phone distracting my son though? My son is looking at the damn board. Calling three administrators to deal with that child is a disruption to my sons education.

Um...if the teacher ask the student, who AGAIN, is breaking the rules, to put away their phone and they don't comply, that's an immediate challenge to the authority of the adult. Leaving that student to their own vices is problematic in the grand scheme of things...especially if there are rules in place that prohibit the use of phones in class. The distraction to your child's education started the minute that girl decided to ignore the requests of the adults to either put the phone away or give it up. I'm sure she would have gotten it back at the end of the day, or it would have been turned over to her legal guardian.

Classrooms are better without Cell Phones. WIth them, kids are distracted, disrespectful, and are missing content. I wish there were mandates against them.

Just place cameras in the classroom to make sure people are safe.

DC IS a teacher. I think he knows what makes for a good learning environment for his students.
 
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Let me just make this clear.

It is totally possible for us to believe the student was out of pocket WITHOUT indirectly saying the officer should have used force.

I think some of you are trying so hard to force us into saying that when NOT ONE SINGLE SOUL has said that in this thread
 
Classrooms are better without Cell Phones. WIth them, kids are distracted, disrespectful, and are missing content. I wish there were mandates against them.

Just place cameras in the classroom to make sure people are safe.
So currently schools allow kids to use phones in classrooms?

theres huge potential in using phones for class activities but that's a whole nother discussion
 
So currently schools allow kids to use phones in classrooms?

theres huge potential in using phones for class activities but that's a whole nother discussion
Schools "allow" students to "have" their phones in school.

My school doesn't. Students (Middle School) have to check their phones IN at 8:45 at the front desk. They get a card with a #. The phones are stored in a room and put in cubby holes with numbers (the student gets a card with the #). They line up and get the phones back at the end of the day.

I couldn't IMAGINE having to deal with this cell phone problem.

Like I said before, if a parent needs their child, they know the school's number. So the whole, "If something happens I need to call my child," response in opposition to me saying phones have no place in the school is nonsense
 
When was the last time some of you guys were in high school? :lol:

Bro ppl who are FIGHTING don't even get hemmed up and tossed around like that. This shouldn't even be a discussion :smh: dude was out of line
 
That's dope that ppl sending money to that girl :smokin

Nice that it's someone who needs it and deserves it instead of racist murderers

Yea that's true. But where's the girl's injuries? It says "As a result, she suffers injuries to her ribs, back, neck, shoulder; a broken arm, and abrasions to her face."

When was the last time some of you guys were in high school? :lol:

Bro ppl who are FIGHTING don't even get hemmed up and tossed around like that. This shouldn't even be a discussion :smh: dude was out of line

Hey, if you had a daughter, and she was in high school, would you tell her to obey teachers and the principal and the law enforcement there? Or would you tell her to disobey? Serious question. I'm not justifying the cops actions, but would you think this would have been prevented if she did was she was told in school where the education if free?
 
So far DC has

negated every alternative we've given instead of tossing a child

says what cop did was wrong

hasn't provided a solution he would think works

what are you arguing? :lol:
 
Better to contact your child directly. What if the school cannot locate them in time. Every second counts in emergency situations. Let cell phones be available.
 
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Better to contact your child directly. What if the school cannot locate them in time. Every second counts in emergency situations.
according to DC that barely happens in schools so it's unnecessary to prep for because in a emergency situation the front desk will be answering your calls
 
Money shou
When was the last time some of you guys were in high school? :lol:

Bro ppl who are FIGHTING don't even get hemmed up and tossed around like that. This shouldn't even be a discussion :smh: dude was out of line

Hey, if you had a daughter, and she was in high school, would you tell her to obey teachers and the principal and the law enforcement there? Or would you tell her to disobey? Serious question. I'm not justifying the cops actions, but would you think this would have been prevented if she did was she was told in school where the education if free?

See, I have a problem w/ the word "obey" bro, I think the better term should be to respect the teachers and principals.

I personally teach my daughter to respect others and expect them to respect her. I also teach her that regardless of age, if someone disrespects her, then she is no longer obligated to respect them and that I'll deal w/ the adults accordingly.
 
So far DC has

negated every alternative we've given instead of tossing a child

says what cop did was wrong

hasn't provided a solution he would think works

what are you arguing?
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I offered a, "Best possible solution" a few pages back but that isn't full proof. 

Bring in a social worker to calm her down, but that is if the student and the social worker are cool. I already said dozens of times it is a tough situation, but I know from experience keeping her there isn't the best option. Especially if she is STILL disrespecting the rules.
 
Money shou
When was the last time some of you guys were in high school? :lol:

Bro ppl who are FIGHTING don't even get hemmed up and tossed around like that. This shouldn't even be a discussion :smh: dude was out of line

Hey, if you had a daughter, and she was in high school, would you tell her to obey teachers and the principal and the law enforcement there? Or would you tell her to disobey? Serious question. I'm not justifying the cops actions, but would you think this would have been prevented if she did was she was told in school where the education if free?

See, I have a problem w/ the word "obey" bro, I think the better term should be to respect the teachers and principals.

I personally teach my daughter to respect others and expect them to respect her. I also teach her that regardless of age, if someone disrespects her, then she is no longer obligated to respect them and that I'll deal w/ the adults accordingly.

the teachers or police did nothing to disrespect her until she decided to disrespect the rules of the school and authority figures.
 
 
Better to contact your child directly. What if the school cannot locate them in time. Every second counts in emergency situations. Let cell phones be available.
Again, that is a rare situation. Your child will be IN class EVERYDAY with cell phones distracting them. I am not allowing students to keep phones "just in case of an emergency." When emergencies are once in a blue moon.

That would be like changing Hack-A-Shack rules for the WHOLE league because of DWight and DeAndre.
 
I got you dathbgboy dathbgboy that's a much better term.

IDK, what kind of emergency situation would they actually need the kid for in general? If any emergency happens, the child would be one of the last people told the news. It's not like they'll need the child to do some CPR or something.
 
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So far DC has


negated every alternative we've given instead of tossing a child


says what cop did was wrong


hasn't provided a solution he would think works


what are you arguing? :lol:
I offered a, "Best possible solution" a few pages back but that isn't full proof. 

Bring in a social worker to calm her down, but that is if the student and the social worker are cool. I already said dozens of times it is a tough situation, but I know from experience keeping her there isn't the best option. Especially if she is STILL disrespecting the rules.
To calm her down? Seems like she was pretty calm and the adults were irate
 
 
Again, that is a rare situation. Your child will be IN class EVERYDAY with cell phones distracting them. I am not allowing students to keep phones "just in case of an emergency." When emergencies are once in a blue moon.

That would be like changing Hack-A-Shack rules for the WHOLE league because of DWight and DeAndre.
Sometimes a "once in a blue moon" emergency situation is all it takes to change a child's life forever. Can't believe you compared that nonsense to a child in an emergency situation. 
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To calm her down? Seems like she was pretty calm and the adults were irate
Calm her down, remove her from the room, relocate her to the back of the room. Essentially the social worker would serve as an adult the student can trust or "run to" when she isn't seeing eye to eye with the teacher.

Essentially someone that WOULD be able to remove her from the room without force.

But that is the ideal situation
 
Emergencies do happen, there was time when there was some sort of gas leak at my daughter's school and all the parents were calling into the school but nobody was answering. They moved the children to another school but we didn't know which one until 5min before the kids arrived when we got an automated call.

Point is, things do happen, when I was in school on 9/11 and reports were going on saying a plan was flying in the direction toward 3 mile island, phone lines were tied up, mom tried calling the school and couldn't get through, that's when she called my cellphone.

M mr highness all good bro, I think in discussions like this, we have to carefully articulate ourselves so that are message isn't misconstrued.
 
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Sometimes a "once in a blue moon" emergency situation can change a child's life forever. Can't believe you compared that nonsense to a child in an emergency situation.
And having cell phones in a classroom and not learning because of it can change a child's life forever.

The analogy makes PERFECT sense.

Changing a rule because of inprobable conditions. Look at the premise and not the names mentioned. 
 
Emergencies do happen, there was time when there was some sort of gas leak at my daughter's school and all the parents were calling into the school but nobody was answering. They moved the children to another school but we didn't know which one until 5min before the kids arrived when we got an automated call.

Point is, things do happen, when I was in school on 9/11 and reports were going on saying a plan was flying in the direction toward 3 mile island, phone lines were tied up, mom tried calling the school and couldn't get through, that's when she called my cellphone.
Who denied things happen?
 
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