YANKEES OFFSEASON THREAD: Lock This

Probably a stupid question, but assuming that they can trade an OFer, probably Beltran given what was said on Hot Stove, why would they sign Heyward, Cespedes, etc to another long term contract?

When the Phillies were looking to trade Hamels, one of the players they supposedly wanted was Aaron Judge, who scouts are saying is a stud and could be in the majors next year. Why sign someone to block him?
 
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Probably a stupid question, but assuming that they can trade an OFer, probably Beltran given what was said on Hot Stove, why would they sign Heyward, Cespedes, etc to another long term contract?

When the Phillies were looking to trade Hamels, one of the players they supposedly wanted was Aaron Judge, who scouts are saying is a stud and could be in the majors next year. Why sign someone to block him?
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He won't be in the majors next year (2016). He's not remotely ready from a batter's perspective. Sure he'll be able to mash it out. But at a .220 clip at best currently. Also needs to improve defensively. Unlike Bird who has to be up in MLB because nothing more he can learn in AAA, Judge has a lot of room to grow.

As for it will block him. I wouldn't be so sure. If they trade Gardner, and slot in Heyward or Cespedes, they have a slot for Judge in 2017 for Beltran's retirement. Or if they trade Beltran, and sign Heyward or Cespedes, they can trade Gardner's 2 year /$25 or $26mil before 2017 if they really believe in Judge by then. Also I don't even think you need to slot Judge into the OF. Teix is in the last year of his deal, so you can get him some time at 1B behind Bird. Also could get him time at DH as well. Once ARod deal expires after 2017, Judge may very well be everyday DH. I think come 2018, he's just as likely to be an everyday DH as he is to be everyday OF.


And for Heyward and lesser extent Upton, the opportunity to get a prime OF in FA before 30 is rare, you might as well jump at it.
 
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^ Oh ok. Places were saying his ETA was 2016.

According to Ken Rosenthal, the Yankees are open to anything on the trade market. Even willing to listen to offers for Andrew Miller but the asking price would be very high. But Cashman doesn't anticipate trading Severino, Bird, or Judge.

Also Rosenthal said they aren't really interested in signing players attached to draft picks. So for right now, doesn't seem like they'd be involved in Heyward, Upton, Greinke, etc.
 
If that's the case, Shark is out too. I'm happy about that.

I'm going to be really disappointed with this offseason.
 
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^ Oh ok. Places were saying his ETA was 2016.
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I think it would have been a September Call Up if anything. He has things to work out first.

Would love him to be ready now, and think he'd probably hit 20HRs or so if he played the full 162 in the majors, but that average and strikeout numbers would be ghastly.
 
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I don't believe Cash on Andrew Miller.

But if he does trade Miller, I'm done with him. Unless you get an insane stupid offer for him, but you won't.
 
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I don't believe anything Cashman says tbh. After signing the top THREE FA's in 09' anything is possible with this team. You don't trade the games best closet if it doesn't make you insanely better
 
^Part of the reason why I stay partially optimistic.

Every writer describes this FA class as one of the best in a long time and one of the best in the near future. And I fully agree.

Yeah we have a lot of high paid guys, but no way you can just let this FA class pass by. Just can't.
 
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^Part of the reason why I stay partially optimistic.

Every writer describes this FA class as one of the best in a long time and one of the best in the near future. And I fully agree.

Yeah we have a lot of high paid guys, but no way you can just let this FA class pass by. Just can't.
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This. We have to come away with a young OF (coughHeywardcough) and at least 1 SP.
 
Somebody asked Sweeny Murti if Yankees will trade McCann and go with Murphy & Sanchez.

I hate people. I really do.
 
Don't like that Profar has been playing DH only in the Fall league. But I guess that's b/c he's still coming off the injury.

However, the end of that article has me interested -

If he gets back to where he was pre-injury, it puts the Rangers in a position where they can either deal Profar for a hefty return, look to move either Rougned Odor or Elvis Andrus, or potentially see if Profar is a fit at third base in a post-Beltre world.
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Sign me up on Odor. Kid can play; had a great 2nd half after being called up again after the ASB.
 
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I don't believe Cash on Andrew Miller.

But if he does trade Miller, I'm done with him. Unless you get an insane stupid offer for him, but you won't.
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He didn't say that he was gonna trade or looking to trade Miller but that he was open to and listening to all offers including Miller. But others said the asking price for Miller would be extremely high/insane. Basically they're not looking to trade Miller but would trade him if some team completely ***** the bed and offers something insane they'd accept. Would be like the Dodgers calling up and offering Urias, Seager, and De Leon for Miller they'd listen. 

Edit: Just read something saying its not only Miller but a lot of teams are willing to listen on offers for their closers. There's Chapman, Kimbrel, Melancon, Giles, and Tolleson. But the Yankees would only consider trading Miller if they could get back an ace or big time star, making it one of the least likely of deals to happen. They even suggested it would take someone like Strasburg to pry Miller away from the Yankees.
 
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Cashman said the "optimal" place for Greg Bird is in AAA because with Teix and A-Rod, there is no place.

Sucks, but I get it. Still think you could get him close to 400 PAs even as the backup.
 
Teix isn't about to waive his No Trade Clause so let's bury that trade idea right now
 
Yankees and Mariners had preliminary trade talk involving Gardner.

Rosenthal thinks the Yankees maybe forced into making a big move during free agency. Supposedly they're hesitant to sign any big name free agents because they lack financial flexibility, they want to keep their draft picks, and they're reluctant to invest long term in free agent SP's over 30. Thats why they have made everyone on their roster available for trade. Including some prospects like Sanchez and Mateo.
 
Can't believe the Yankees are being ******* cheap with those expensive *** seats/concessions in the damn stadium
 
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George Steinbrenner has been rolling in his grave since they refused to trade Nunez for Cliff Lee in 2010
 
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