YANKEES OFFSEASON THREAD: Lock This

^ like i said rather cop some starting pitching rather than overpaying on some hitting... look how that elsbury signing turned out which was not good... this team needs to get some pitching already.... CC is overpaid and past his prime, pineda is decent and so is tanaka but also overpaid too... nova is ok but is still inconsistent.... we need a bonafide Ace to solidify the starting rotation
 
Spend Hal's Money: Will Yankees make a big splash with Jason Heyward?
It's that time of the year again, when we get to indulge in everyone's favorite pastime: spending AGM (another guy's money). In our case, that guy is Hal Steinbrenner, the principal owner of the New York Yankees, who did a pretty good job of spending his own money in 2015; the Yankees' Opening Day payroll was north of $217 million, second-highest in the game. But Hal can always do better -- with our help, of course -- and over the next couple of weeks, Andrew Marchand and I will examine some of the goodies the Baby Boss can buy on the free-agent market this winter.

Today we look at the player considered by most to be the prize free agent in this year's crop:

Jason Heyward

Position: Right fielder

Bats: L

Throws: L

2015 numbers: $7.8 million salary, .293-13-60, .797 OPS, 6.5 WAR (Baseball-Reference)

Opening Day age: 26

PROS: Not the most spectacular, offensive-numbers wise, but almost certainly the best all-around player in this year's group, Heyward is ranked No. 1 among free agents by ESPN's panel of baseball experts, among others. A highlight-reel defender, above-average hitter and a basepath threat -- 43 stolen bases in 50 attempts over the past two seasons -- Heyward is the type of free agent the Yankees would have been all-in on in what some consider the Good Old Days (i.e., When The Boss was Alive). He sports a low strikeout percentage for an outfielder, decent walk percentage, and his OBP (.359) was higher than any of the Yankees' three starting outfielders in 2015. Like all left-handed hitters, his subpar power numbers will benefit from the short right-field porch at Yankee Stadium. And best of all, he won't hit his 27th birthday until next August.

CONS: He probably will command Robinson Cano/A-Rod-type numbers, and will probably demand an opt-out. The Yankees have to decide if a player who has averaged 16 home runs a year -- his high was 27 in 2012 -- is worth upward of $200 million. And, like Justin Upton and Yoenis Cespedes, the other elite outfielders on the market, it means moving a current outfielder -- in this case, either Brett Gardner or Jacoby Ellsbury -- to free up money and a spot on the field for him. Heyward is probably too big to be a center fielder and his prodigious defensive abilities could be nullified by Yankee Stadium's mini right field, but he has never played left.

THE VERDICT: Heyward is a tough one to pass up, and if this were 10 years ago, there would be no question he would be a Yankee in 2016. But this is a different era and different ownership, even if the name remains the same. It seems Hal's Yankees are more likely to aim slightly lower, or even sit out the outfield sweepstakes and wait a few years for the rest of their big contracts to expire -- and for someone like Mike Trout to hit the market. A reluctant pass.
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Supposedly Cano wants to come back to NY 
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WFAN Sports Radio  ‏@WFAN660   22m22 minutes ago

Report: Robinson Cano is unhappy in Seattle, would love to return to New York. | http://cbsloc.al/1MN7xId  #Yankees #NYY #Mariners
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i want him back just for the sheer fact that theres no superstar on that team. unless you count AROD.

Yankees need a star.

thats how i look at the yankees.

theres not one guy in that lineup that you look forward to seeing up. they used to have 3-4
 
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Is he even still good ? Not even trying to be funny haven't followed him at all since he left. Dude went from being the best 2nd baseman in the game to falling off the face of the earth
 
KingFoamNYC said:
Gardner and a couple B level prospects
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KingFoamNYC said:
Is he even still good ? Not even trying to be funny haven't followed him at all since he left. Dude went from being the best 2nd baseman in the game to falling off the face of the earth
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Yes, he's still pretty good, being in Seattle killed his stats last year, but still hit .287 21HR 79RBIs after having a brutal first half.

Anyway,

-Get Mariners to eat the last 2 years of the deal. Or at least 80% of it.
-Trade them Gardner, Nova, Robbie Refsnyder or Jorge Mateo, Chasen Shreve, Mason Williams.


We'll be on the hook for 6 years / $144mil.


-In year 1, you get out of about 16 of the 24mil for Cano by letting Gardner, Nova & Shreve go.. Opens up room for Lindgren to come up and be the second LOOGY to Wilson.
We get a guy who will hit .290-.320 25-35HRs 90-110 RBIs

Aaron Hicks is now in LF, Dustin Ackley now is 4th OF.

Batting Order:
Ellsbury
Cano
A-Rod
Teix
McCann
Beltran
Headley
Gregorius
Hicks

- Year 2, Beltran & Teix are done. Bird & Judge now up in the Majors. Hicks stays the LF for another season, enters Year 1 of Arbitration. We really don't have to spend any money in the field, and drop the cap a bunch.
- Year 3, C.C., A-Rod come off the books, use CC money to re-sign Pineda & Eovaldi. A-Rod money can go toward another pitcher, or just sit on the money, and put McCann at DH & Sanchez at Catcher. Unless a pitcher breaks out and becomes a FA, I'm fine with not spending.
-Year 4, Headley comes off the books, and whatever money we saved from A-Rod or Beltran & Teix goes to Bryce Harper.

- Year 5 & 6, Cano likely start to decline steadily.
- Year 7 & 8, we won't have any money obligation to him. So if by chance he still has it, fine, if he doesn't he ends up as a bench player that we're not really paying.
 
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Too much money and Seattle won't be willing to eat enough of it. I don't see it happening.
 
Essential needs a front office job :lol:

i'm 100% on board with that breakdown
 
I don't blame him for taking the money but sometimes it's more than just the money. I knew he wasn't gonna like Seattle, that ain't no place for a Dominican lol. Lots of money to be made in NY as an athlete aside from salary.
 
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AceMaster193 said:
I don't blame him for taking the money but sometimes it's more than just the money. I knew he wasn't gonna like Seattle, that ain't no place for a Dominican lol. Lots of money to be made in NY as an athlete aside from salary.
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i personally think Jayz or whoever at Roc sports whatever they call themselves is to blame.

Dude was in line to become (close to) the next yankee great

with jeter gone already, when cano left, i feel like the yankees lost their identity.

Yanks didnt want to pay him ALL that money and the roc made him take offense to it and left...
 
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After taxes, Seattle's deal was like 90 million more or some ****.

Everyone knew he would hate it and be miserable except for Seattle fans.

And yes, I blame Jay Z. I stopped listening to Jay and threw out all his CDs the day it was announced he was going to Seattle.
 
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Part of me wishes we had just gotten closer.. Rather than just sitting on 7 year / $175 and unwilling to budge.

Not 10 years, but maybe 8 year $200mil.. And just make the 8th year, $10mil or something. Yeah the tax goes based on average, but it'd still be fine.


I don't think he leaves if we hit the $200mil mark.
 
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Report: Yankees Unlikely To Upgrade At Second Base, Still Covet Pitching

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — The Yankees’ late-season platoon at second base may very well be the plan for the start of the 2016 season.

According to a report in the Daily News, the Bombers don’t appear inclined to significantly upgrade the position, so don’t expect them to make a play for Seattle’s Robinson Cano, should he become available, or spend big money on free agents Ben Zobrist or Howie Kendrick.

The Yankees like the offensive upside and can live with the perceived defensive shortcomings of both Dustin Ackley and Rob Refsnyder, the report stated. General manager Brian Cashman is instead expected to set his sights on improving the starting rotation and bullpen.

Ackley hit .288 with four home runs and 11 RBI in 23 games for the Yankees after coming over from the Mariners at the trade deadline. He made just one error in 21 games out in the field.

Ackley, 27, also adds versatility to a club that is stuck with albatross contracts at a handful of positions. He played nine games at second, eight in the outfield, four at first base and was twice a designated hitter after arriving in New York.

Refsnyder made his major league debut during a four-game run with the Yankees in July, but then was demoted and didn’t return until the expansion of rosters on Sept. 1. He was given just one at-bat in the team’s next 16 games before becoming a regular contributor down the stretch as the Yankees secured the AL wild card.

The 24-year-old infielder finished with a .302 average, two homers and five RBI, and made just one error in 52 total chances.

Reports circulated earlier this month that the Yankees are willing to trade both closer Andrew Miller and outfielder Brett Gardner in the right deals to address needs.
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