Nike Air Jordan Retro Metallic V - 7/23/16

I like my Vs to look a lil ashy. A nice vintage look. I own multiple OGs though so I have a preference.
 
jaylaw15 said:
The metallics were a little ashy back in 1990 too, it has nothing to do with age. @AirSakuragi

Photos from 1990


and let's be real, besides the durabuck being thinner and less leathery looking, what's wrong with the current nike durabuck?
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This is what I consider ashy:

The Black and Metallic Silver 5s that you have in your post are not ashy, that's the material (original durabuck). Remember durabuck is partially synthetic, hence the look.

I didn't say anything was wrong with the current durabuck, I listed original durabuck>current durabuck>nubuck>suede. Which means it's pretty good material but the original is better. 
 
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AirSakuragi said:
This is what I consider ashy:

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The Black and Metallic Silver 5s that you have in your post are not ashy, that's the material (original durabuck). Remember durabuck is partially synthetic, hence the look.


I didn't say anything was wrong with the current durabuck, I listed original durabuck>current durabuck>nubuck>suede. Which means it's pretty good material but the original is better. 
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You've never owned the original. What makes it(genuinely) better?

I can only speak on the durabuck from 2000, 2006, 2008, and 2014-6 since that's all I've owned and seen Brand new or aged
 
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AirSakuragi said:
The Black and Metallic Silver 5s that you have in your post are not ashy, that's the material (original durabuck). Remember durabuck is partially synthetic, hence the look.
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Actually, durabuck is fully synthetic (fake leather) but somehow adopted the description of being a blended leather material in the sneaker world. scollard23 scollard23 wrote a piece on it a few years ago referencing back to its origins. There is no evidence pointing to it being any type of real leather, in fact in my own research I stumbled upon a PETA page in which they specifically call it an alternative to leather. Here is the relevant portion:

''There are many alternatives to leather, including cotton, linen, rubber, ramie, canvas, and synthetics. Chlorenol (called “Hydrolite” by Avia and “Durabuck” by Nike) is perforated for breathability and is used in athletic and hiking shoes. It stretches around the foot with the same “give” as leather, gives good support, and is machine-washable. Designers such as Liz Claiborne, Capezio, Sam & Libby, Steve Madden, and Nike offer an array of nonleather handbags, wallets, and shoes.'

http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-...heets/wool-fur-leather-hazardous-environment/


But as far as the original durabuck is concerned, I don't remember it being ashy in the sense of what we call ashy today. When it was new it was a deep, rich black and when you would rub it/scuff it just right it would get a mark kind of like recent infrared 6s. And when you would put some pressure on it to get it off it would leave it with more of a smooth surface. (Another thing that may have attributed to that is a lot of people would lick the tip of their finger to try and get the smudge off. There wasn't a care/maintenance thread back then, or even Internet as we know it today. :lol:) Durabuck was soft to the touch like Nubuck but had a rubbery feel, especially when it would get those smooth surfaces. The closest thing I've felt in recent times would prob have to be the blue portion on the laney 14s.
 
AGzie said:
Actually, durabuck is fully synthetic (fake leather) but somehow adopted the description of being a blended leather material in the sneaker world. @scollard23 wrote a piece on it a few years ago referencing back to its origins. There is no evidence pointing to it being any type of real leather, in fact in my own research I stumbled upon a PETA page in which they specifically call it an alternative to leather. Here is the relevant portion:

''There are many alternatives to leather, including cotton, linen, rubber, ramie, canvas, and synthetics. Chlorenol (called “Hydrolite” by Avia and “Durabuck” by Nike) is perforated for breathability and is used in athletic and hiking shoes. It stretches around the foot with the same “give” as leather, gives good support, and is machine-washable. Designers such as Liz Claiborne, Capezio, Sam & Libby, Steve Madden, and Nike offer an array of nonleather handbags, wallets, and shoes.'

http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-...heets/wool-fur-leather-hazardous-environment/


But as far as the original durabuck is concerned, I don't remember it being ashy in the sense of what we call ashy today. When it was new it was a deep, rich black and when you would rub it/scuff it just right it would get a mark kind of like recent infrared 6s. And when you would put some pressure on it to get it off it would leave it with more of a smooth surface. (Another thing that may have attributed to that is a lot of people would lick the tip of their finger to try and get the smudge off. There wasn't a care/maintenance thread back then, or even Internet as we know it today.
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) Durabuck was soft to the touch like Nubuck but had a rubbery feel, especially when it would get those smooth surfaces. The closest thing I've felt in recent times would prob have to be the blue portion on the laney 14s.
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Thanks for referencing my article and you are right, Durabuck is a 100% synthetic material.  This myth that it is somehow blended with natural materials has been perpetuated on the internet and people just accepted it as fact, without having any proof to back it up.  Nike themselves describes Durabuck as a synthetic leather, sythetic meaning fake/faux leather.

I don't think this topic will ever go away lol
 
AirSakuragi said:
This is what I consider ashy:

View media item 2025398

The Black and Metallic Silver 5s that you have in your post are not ashy, that's the material (original durabuck). Remember durabuck is partially synthetic, hence the look.


I didn't say anything was wrong with the current durabuck, I listed original durabuck>current durabuck>nubuck>suede. Which means it's pretty good material but the original is better. 
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Durabuck was a ashy material by nature. I remember I actually had the Black Metallic 5s in 1991, my grandma bought them for me on sale
 
Jays25 said:
In all honesty (and I realize you're more than likely speaking of the ashiness) so many of the 5's we got in 2013 were horrible
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Oreo's were flames. I actually managed to rub the nubuck down into a smooth leather surface and they're my driving beaters.

Everything else was either OK or OK.


Stupid Timberland toebox.
 
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JordanHead718212 said:
617collector said:
Oreos are trash imo
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Agreed, they're horrible
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Yeah, the Oreo 5's are just ok at best. I appreciate the fact that Nike made so many of them and at least they had a different material than others like the Fire Reds and Grapes (Like good Lord the 2013 Jordan 5's were a bad time all around :smh:) , but that does nothing to save them as far as colorways go. Not saying that they're the worst Jordan 5 i've ever seen, but they're nothing to write home about either. I remember that numerous people were angry that we got the Oreo V's for Black Friday instead of the Black Metallics and I think it's perfectly understandable why, because the former simply isn't as nice as the latter.
 
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Jays25 said:
Yeah, the Oreo 5's are just ok at best. I appreciate the fact that Nike made so many of them and at least they had a different material than others like the Fire Reds and Grapes (Like good Lord the 2013 Jordan 5's were a bad time all around :smh:) , but that does nothing to save them as far as colorways go. Not saying that they're the worst Jordan 5 i've ever seen, but they're nothing to write home about either. I remember that numerous people were angry that we got the Oreo V's for Black Friday instead of the Black Metallics and I think it's perfectly understandable why, because the former simply isn't as nice as the latter.
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its because the metallics came out 2 years before. Idk why anyone actually thought they would drop twice in 2 years
 
AGzie said:
Actually, durabuck is fully synthetic (fake leather) but somehow adopted the description of being a blended leather material in the sneaker world. @scollard23 wrote a piece on it a few years ago referencing back to its origins. There is no evidence pointing to it being any type of real leather, in fact in my own research I stumbled upon a PETA page in which they specifically call it an alternative to leather. Here is the relevant portion:

''There are many alternatives to leather, including cotton, linen, rubber, ramie, canvas, and synthetics. Chlorenol (called “Hydrolite” by Avia and “Durabuck” by Nike) is perforated for breathability and is used in athletic and hiking shoes. It stretches around the foot with the same “give” as leather, gives good support, and is machine-washable. Designers such as Liz Claiborne, Capezio, Sam & Libby, Steve Madden, and Nike offer an array of nonleather handbags, wallets, and shoes.'

http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-...heets/wool-fur-leather-hazardous-environment/


But as far as the original durabuck is concerned, I don't remember it being ashy in the sense of what we call ashy today. When it was new it was a deep, rich black and when you would rub it/scuff it just right it would get a mark kind of like recent infrared 6s. And when you would put some pressure on it to get it off it would leave it with more of a smooth surface. (Another thing that may have attributed to that is a lot of people would lick the tip of their finger to try and get the smudge off. There wasn't a care/maintenance thread back then, or even Internet as we know it today.
laugh.gif
) Durabuck was soft to the touch like Nubuck but had a rubbery feel, especially when it would get those smooth surfaces. The closest thing I've felt in recent times would prob have to be the blue portion on the laney 14s.
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Thank you for clearing that up, you see so much information of it being synthetic and blend with other leathers that's why I put partially synthetic.
 
I've yet to hear a reason why the og durabuck is better than the buck we've been getting.
 
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