Simultaneous terrorist attacks around Paris...Vol. Here we go again.Update 07/14/16 p42: Nice terror

blco02 said:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

A long read but well worth it.
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Curious what makes this long read well worth it? This guys opinion on Islam sounds about the same as Fox News and Donald Trump.

My favorite paragraph:
But Muslims who call the Islamic State un-Islamic are typically, as the Princeton scholar Bernard Haykel, the leading expert on the group’s theology, told me, “embarrassed and politically correct, with a cotton-candy view of their own religion” that neglects “what their religion has historically and legally required.”

Really, this guy has figured out what 1.5 billion ppl in the world have been unable to comprehend?
 
SunDOOBIE said:
bronconation24 said:
Isis isn't going anywhere, until assads regime is taken out of power
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Once the US including Russia provides arms and intel to Assad to do the killing... it's a wrap for em.

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On that very subject...

@AaronMehta:
This could be big: #CIA head calls for "enhanced" intel relationship between US and Russia http://www.defensenews.com/story/br...ussia-intel-relationship-developing/75873908/ … #Syria #ISIS
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You guys do know there were movies in the 80's called Friday The 13th and they "coincidentally" happened to be about someone going on a spree of terror?

Open your eyes sheeple
 
USA and Russia teaming up would be 
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PLVN said:
You guys do know there were movies in the 80's called Friday The 13th and they "coincidentally" happened to be about someone going on a spree of terror?

Open your eyes sheeple
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:rofl:
 
Flyeed said:
What?

There was a committee put together a long time ago in the United States that said one of the ways to combat terrorists who do this garbage in the name of islam is to STOP legitimizing them by referring to "their religion." In both politics and the media. France dropped it over a year ago. So why would it be wrong to stop calling it something that A) people find offensive, B) more importantly would hinder their ability to recruit and therefore save lives? And C) dissociates innocent Muslims who face discrimination because of this crap from it?

There isn't anything delusional there. Those benefits make it an extremely obvious course of action. Of course the media loves Islamaphobia so they'll never drop it though. And the Trump faithful types will push it as liberal oversensitivity.
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i don't think you can effectively combat something you can't even name.

Saying islam is the sole reason we have extremism is wrong but saying the islamic texts have NOTHING to do with it is point blank delusional and wishful thinking. You can't wish away part of the problem by not calling it what it is.

The egyptian leader is the realest when it comes to this

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...y-driving-terrorists-to-kill-egypts/?page=all
 
Ben Roethlisberger said:
This has absolutely nothing to do with religion.

Its almost as if the Internet doesn't exist and people still allow their opinions and beliefs to be formed for them.

Divide and conquer is damn near full proof when you have the power to manipulate the subconscious on a mass level like the media does.
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It's falling on deaf ears in here my man. I appreciate your contributions though, that JFK video you posted is very relevant here.just watched it. It's helpful to me to know that at least some people are trying to see the forest 'fore the trees.
 
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Flyeed said:
What?

There was a committee put together a long time ago in the United States that said one of the ways to combat terrorists who do this garbage in the name of islam is to STOP legitimizing them by referring to "their religion." In both politics and the media. France dropped it over a year ago. So why would it be wrong to stop calling it something that A) people find offensive, B) more importantly would hinder their ability to recruit and therefore save lives? And C) dissociates innocent Muslims who face discrimination because of this crap from it?

There isn't anything delusional there. Those benefits make it an extremely obvious course of action. Of course the media loves Islamaphobia so they'll never drop it though. And the Trump faithful types will push it as liberal oversensitivity.
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i don't think you can effectively combat something you can't even name.

Saying islam is the sole reason we have extremism is wrong but saying the islamic texts have NOTHING to do with it is point blank delusional and wishful thinking. You can't wish away part of the problem by not calling it what it is.

The egyptian leader is the realest when it comes to this

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...y-driving-terrorists-to-kill-egypts/?page=all
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What's wrong with calling it "Daesh?" That's still giving it a name, and therefore being able to combat it by your reasoning, since it has a name. 

To take something from South Park, you can call it "Marklar" and still be able to combat it. And in the process have the benefits that I previously listed. Which to reiterate, would delegitimize them and their recruitment efforts, save lives, not offend people, and mitigate discrimination. What benefits does calling it "Islamic Terror" have that outweigh what I just listed? Besides for media outlets and other's who benefit off of an Anti-Islamic agenda (like any Zionist such as yourself surely would.)

And the Egyptian leader doesn't speak for Muslims in any way. He's not a humanitarian/activist. He's a statist who ousted Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood. It's politics that to me is off topic.

And just to repeat myself again...

Simply dissociating them and their acts from Islam in name would

SAVE LIVES

hurt their recruitment

lower discrimination

not offend people

and SAVE LIVES.

It's insane to me how backwards the GOP and conservatives are on social issues. Their agenda is predicated on spreading hate, intolerance, fear, etc. and catering to the worst of human emotions in order to divert attention from how they're a party for rich people.

To quote Black Bush in the Chappelle's Show, "Gay People are gettin' married folks!" 

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FrankMatthews said:
It's falling on deaf ears in here my man. I appreciate your contributions though, that JFK video you posted is very relevant here.just watched it. It's helpful to me to know that at least some people are trying to see the forest 'fore the trees.
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Should I post that video in here?
 
Flyeed said:
What's wrong with calling it "Daesh?" That's still giving it a name, and therefore being able to combat it by your reasoning, since it has a name. 

To take something from South Park, you can call it "Marklar" and still be able to combat it. And in the process have the benefits that I previously listed. Which to reiterate, would delegitimize them and their recruitment efforts, save lives, not offend people, and mitigate discrimination. What benefits does calling it "Islamic Terror" have that outweigh what I just listed? Besides for media outlets and other's who benefit off of an Anti-Islamic agenda (like any Zionist such as yourself surely would.)

And the Egyptian leader doesn't speak for Muslims in any way. He's not a humanitarian/activist. He's a statist who ousted Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood. It's politics that to me is off topic.

And just to repeat myself again...
Simply dissociating them and their acts from Islam in name would
SAVE LIVES
hurt their recruitment
lower discrimination
not offend people
and SAVE LIVES.

It's insane to me how backwards the GOP and conservatives are on social issues. Their agenda is predicated on spreading hate, intolerance, fear, etc. and catering to the worst of human emotions in order to divert attention from how they're a party for rich people.

To quote Black Bush in the Chappelle's Show, "Gay People are gettin' married folks!" 


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I voted for obama don't talk to me about the GOP. You assume too much.

Isis doesn't speak for islam. The Egyptian leader doesn't speak for islam. Do you hear yourself? You don't get to pick and choose because it makes you feel better.

Calling it marklar disassociates itself completely from the text and pretends that it has no impact whatsoever on what is happening. That is my point.
 
cool to see Anonymous declare war but how much damage can they inflict? i think their most damning action would be to uncover the identities of Isis members, sympathizers, and financial supporters who reside in Western countries. maybe it's not as direct as bombing an Isis stronghold in Syria, but exposing traitors in Western countries may impinge on Isis's ability to expand.
 
whywesteppin said:
cool to see Anonymous declare war but how much damage can they inflict? i think their most damning action would be to uncover the identities of Isis members, sympathizers, and financial supporters who reside in Western countries. maybe it's not as direct as bombing an Isis stronghold in Syria, but exposing traitors in Western countries may impinge on Isis's ability to expand.
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Honestly that could have a bigger impact
 
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