Simultaneous terrorist attacks around Paris...Vol. Here we go again.Update 07/14/16 p42: Nice terror

rolaholic rolaholic repped, updates are crazy... I'm watching the feed trying to see if something happens :lol:

The craziest has past it seems,French officials are saying that the operation is winding down at the moment. Apparently 3 terrorists have been killed, including the female suicide bomber, and 3 others were taken into custody.
 
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The craziest has past it seems,French officials are saying that the operation is winding down at the moment. Apparently 3 terrorists have been killed, including the female suicide bomber, and 3 others were taken into custody.

Yea looks like they do raids just as the sun rises like they do in the US

Female suicide bomber though :wow:
 
Update - Police say two people have been arrested & four police officers have been injured during the raid in #SaintDenis in northern #Paris
 
Good to see conservative America come together for Paris but remain silent or victim blame everything else.

#EuropeanLivesMatter

Would also be cool if France wasn't forcing colonial taxes on 14 African nations too.

The circle of life is amazing
This
 
– People inside the concert hall were texting and begging for help for two hours  before the police finally stormed the hall. 100+ died in the meantime.[*]

– France has some of the most restrictive gun control laws in the Western world.[*]

– Three armed men held over 100 people hostage.[*]

– France has been intervening militarily in Syria, Libya, Iraq, and Lebanon for years.[*]

– France’s government has been bombing the Iraq/Syria since 2014, as part of Nobel Peace Prize-winning Barack Jesus Hopechange’s near constant war against that region.[*]

– France was clearly warned by ISIS back in February to stop bombing targets in Syria.[*]

– Six days before this terrorist attack, France’s president launched an airstrike against ISIS targets in Syria.[*]

– These bombings occurred despite a vote in France’s parliament against such actions. Also, 64% of France’s population is opposed to military intervention in the Middle East.[*] France’s government and president clearly don’t a give a damn.
 
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– People inside the concert hall were texting and begging for help for two hours  before the police finally stormed the hall. 100+ died in the meantime.[*]

– France has some of the most restrictive gun control laws in the Western world.[*]

– Three armed men held over 100 people hostage.[*]

– France has been intervening militarily in Syria, Libya, Iraq, and Lebanon for years.[*]

– France’s government has been bombing the Iraq/Syria since 2014, as part of Nobel Peace Prize-winning Barack Jesus Hopechange’s near constant war against that region.[*]

– France was clearly warned by ISIS back in February to stop bombing targets in Syria.[*]

– Six days before this terrorist attack, France’s president launched an airstrike against ISIS targets in Syria.[*]

– These bombings occurred despite a vote in France’s parliament against such actions. Also, 64% of France’s population is opposed to military intervention in the Middle East.[*] France’s government and president clearly don’t a give a damn.
people were live tweeting while in the concert hall

this was reported

http://news.yahoo.com/explosions-gunfire-paris-police-raid-063034320.html
SAINT-DENIS, France (AP) — Amid gunfire and explosions, police raided a suburban Paris apartment where they believed the suspected mastermind of last week's attacks was holed up. The siege ended Wednesday with two deaths and seven arrests but no clear information on the fugitive's fate.

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The dead were a woman who blew herself up with an explosive vest and a man hit by projectiles and grenades, the Paris prosecutor said at the end of the seven-hour siege in the Paris suburb of Saint-Denis.

Prosecutor Francois Molins said the raid was launched after information from tapped telephone conversations, surveillance and witness accounts indicated that the suspected planner of the attacks, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, might be in a safe house in the district.

Authorities could not immediately confirm whether Abaaoud, a Belgian Islamic State militant, was killed or arrested Wednesday morning.

Investigators have identified 27-year-old Abaaoud, a Belgian of Moroccan descent, as the chief architect of Friday's attacks in Paris, which killed 129 people and injured 350 others.

A U.S. official briefed on intelligence matters said Abaaoud was a key figure in an Islamic State external operations cell that U.S. intelligence agencies have been tracking for months.

Abaaoud was believed to be in Syria after a January police raid in Belgium, but bragged in Islamic State propaganda of his ability to move back and forth between Europe and Syria undetected.

Speaking at the scene of Wednesday's raid, Molins said the operation began with a pre-dawn shootout and resulted in the capture of three people inside the apartment, the death of a woman who set off an explosive charge, and the death of "another terrorist ... who was hit by projectiles and grenades."

He said two people were detained while trying to hide in the rubble, and two others were also arrested, including the man who had provided the apartment and one of his acquaintances. Police at the scene were seen escorting away one man who was naked from the waist down, and another wrapped in a gold emergency blanket.

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French special police forces secure the area as shots are exchanged in Saint-Denis, France, near Par …

"As things stand, it is impossible to give you the identities of the people detained, which are being verified," Molins said. "All will be done to determine who is who, and based on the work of forensic police, we'll tell you who was in the apartment — and what consequences it will have for the development of the investigation."

Molins and Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve did not specify whether any suspects might still be at large.

A police official not authorized to be publicly named because of police rules said four police officers were injured.

French President Francois Hollande praised the bravery of the security services and said that France was "at war."

"It is the entire country that's been attacked," Hollande told a gathering of French mayors. "For what it represents, the fight we are leading to eradicate terrorism. And simply for what we are."

In Saint-Denis on Wednesday, police cordoned off an area around the building, in a narrow street lined with low-rise buildings. Riot police cleared people from the streets, pointing guns at curious residents to move them off the roads.

The area is less than two kilometers (just over a mile) from the Stade de France stadium, near where three suicide bombers blew themselves up during an international soccer match Friday.

Residents said the first explosion Wednesday shook the neighborhood shortly after 4 a.m.

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"We guessed it was linked to Friday night," said Yves Steux, barman at L'Escargot restaurant 250 meters (yards) from the assault."My wife panicked and was scared and told me not to leave, but I ignored her. Life goes on."

Another witness, Amine Guizani, said he heard the sound of grenades and automatic gunfire.

"It was continuous. It didn't stop," he said. "It lasted from 4:20 until 5:30. It was a good hour. I couldn't say how many shots were fired, but it was probably 500. Hundreds, definitely. There were maybe 10 explosions."

Saint-Denis is one of France's most historic places. French kings were crowned and buried through the centuries in its famed basilica, a majestic Gothic church that towers over the area. The district is home to a vibrant and ethnically diverse population and sees sporadic tension between police and violent youths.

Seven attackers died in Friday's attacks, which targeted several bars and restaurants and the Bataclan concert hall, as well as the national stadium. The Islamic State group has claimed responsibility for the carnage.

Police had said before the raids that they were hunting for two fugitives suspected of taking part as well as any accomplices. That would bring the number of attackers to at least nine.

French authorities had previously said that at least eight people were directly involved in the bloodshed: seven who died in the attacks and one, Salah Abdeslam, who got away and slipped across the border to Belgium.

A Spanish security official said Wednesday that French authorities have sent out a bulletin to police across Europe asking them to watch out for a Citroen Xsara car that could be carrying Abdeslam.

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The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of department rules preventing the official from being named.

Officials have told The Associated Press they believe at least one other attacker was involved and they were working to identify and track down that person.

Surveillance video obtained by the AP also indicated that a team of three attackers carried out the shootings at one of the cafes. The video was among evidence authorities used in concluding that at least one other attacker was at large, the French officials indicated.

The brief clip shows two black-clad gunmen with automatic weapons calmly firing on the bar then returning toward a waiting car, whose driver was maneuvering behind them. Authorities believe the car is the same black SEAT-make vehicle that was found Saturday with three Kalashnikovs inside.

Meanwhile, French fighter jets attacked Islamic State targets in Syria for a third night. The French defense ministry said 10 jets had hit two Islamic State command centers in the militants' base of Raqqa, Syria.

Hollande said French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle had left to support military operations against IS in Syria. He called for a "large coalition" against IS militants to destroy a group that threatens the whole world and "commits massacres" in the Middle East.

The Paris attacks have galvanized international determination to confront the Islamic State group in Syria and Iraq, bringing France, Russia and the United States closer to an alliance.

Across France, police have carried out 414 raids since Friday, making 60 arrests and seizing 75 weapons, including 11 military-style firearms, the Interior Ministry said.

A nationwide police dragnet has seen nightly raids by security forces under powers granted by the state of emergency declared in the wake of last week's terrorist rampage.

Parliament is expected to vote by the end of the week to extend the state of emergency for three months.

France — and the rest of Europe — remain on edge. Two Air France flights bound for Paris from the U.S. were diverted Tuesday night — one to Salt Lake City and one to Halifax — because of anonymous threats received after they had taken off. Both were inspected and cleared to resume their journeys.

In the German city of Hannover, a soccer game between Germany and the Netherlands was canceled at the last minute and the stadium evacuated by police because of a bomb threat.

Lower Saxony state Interior Minister Boris Pistorius said the match was called off after "vague" information that solidified late in the day.

No arrests have been made and no explosives found. Pistorius said this may be because the plot was called off after the game was canceled.

"We won't know what would have happened if we didn't cancel it," he said.

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Keaten reported from Paris. Associated Press writers Thomas Adamson in Saint-Denis, Philippe Sotto, Sylvie Corbet, Lori Hinnant, Angela Charlton and Jill Lawless in Paris, David Rising in Berlin, Ciaran Giles in Madrid and Ken Dilanian in Washington contributed to this report.

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This story has been corrected to show that the witness's name is Amine Guizani, not Amin.
 
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Jesus man, they had women using suicide belts. Amazed.

That raid, floors collapsed. Guess these dudes were just waiting there for the police to get them since Friday.
 
Actually,according to French officials,they say that they apparently caught them right as they were planning another attack on the Paris business district.

Great job overall from the authorities, they were able to capture a few of them alive without too many casualties.
 
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Actually,according to French officials,they say that they apparently caught them right as they were planning another attack on the Paris business district.

Great job overall from the authorities, they were able to capture a few of them alive without too many casualties.

:smh: all bad. You gotta be vigilant as hell, and I'm sure protocol in France (and other countries) will change going forward....but I still wonder how the military goes about fighting ISIS? There are SO many cells around the world...I mean ****...just look at the damage/fear 8-10 people caused since last Friday. Not a full blown militia...but less than 10 people :smh: And you all know that this isn't the only ISIS offshoot in Paris.
 
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How did they find the "ring leader" and his goons?

Military is randomly raiding houses and apartments?

Did they use NSA spying tactics to find and stop these potential "terrorists"?
 
They made over 100 raids last night and have arrested over 20 people and have siezed 30+ weapons apparently
 
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They made over 100 raids last night and have arrested over 20 people and have siezed 30+ weapons apparently

Were these random raids or did they have Intel that led to a particular area to be raided?

If so, who's Intel? What kind of Intel?

Have they released the names and pictures of the 20 people that have been arrested?
 
I doubt they'd release much info while the raids/investigations are ongoing since they still have terrorists out there but apparently the "ringleader" was thought to have been in Syria for the longest time. Through some of the arrests they made earlier this week,they were tipped off that he might actually be in Paris and so they went on this massive manhunt.

I'm all for transparency but :lol: at expecting police to release their tactics/intel in the middle of a massive manhunt
 
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Just asking questions.

That's what everyone should be doing. These stories evoke emotions and it's very hard to have any kind of critical thought process when we're emotional.

And those questions I'm asking are very important questions that need to be answered.

I'm finding it hard to believe that random raids led to finding more "terrorists."
 
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Just asking questions.

That's what everyone should be doing. These stories evoke emotions and it's very hard to have any kind of critical thought process when we're emotional.

I hear you and it is good to think critically during times like these but I don't expect that much info to be available until at least the end of the week when they have more evidence. True say about the emotion part :lol:,seen evidence of just that on social media this morning after they reported that a police dog got killed by the suicide bomber.
 
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Just asking questions.

That's what everyone should be doing. These stories evoke emotions and it's very hard to have any kind of critical thought process when we're emotional.
'm sure they have informants and others gathering intel as well as arrestees feeding thm more info.
 
Just asking questions.

That's what everyone should be doing. These stories evoke emotions and it's very hard to have any kind of critical thought process when we're emotional.

At first I thought u were trolling but after thinking about it maybe something like they do with drug busts would put you at ease. (Not saying this should be treated like a city drug bust but y'all know what I mean.)


You want to see a list of names where they were from and how they were identified

Like this article it was just the first one that came up .

http://wivb.com/2015/08/05/local-officials-make-largest-drug-bust-in-u-s-history/


Like Rola said i doubt they can put much information out there because its still an ongoing investigation but with all the propaganda on both sides its hard to know what articles to trust.
 
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How did they find the "ring leader" and his goons?

Military is randomly raiding houses and apartments?

Did they use NSA spying tactics to find and stop these potential "terrorists"?
from the article i posted

"Prosecutor Francois Molins said the raid was launched after information from tapped telephone conversations, surveillance and witness accounts indicated that the suspected planner of the attacks, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, might be in a safe house in the district."
 
At first I thought u were trolling but after thinking about it maybe something like they do with drug busts would put you at ease. (Not saying this should be treated like a city drug bust but y'all know what I mean.)


You want to see a list of names where they were from and how they were identified

Like this article it was just the first one that came up .

http://wivb.com/2015/08/05/local-officials-make-largest-drug-bust-in-u-s-history/


Like Rola said i doubt they can put much information out there because its still an ongoing investigation but with all the propaganda on both sides its hard to know what articles to trust.

We should all be asking for a list of names and how they were identified, who tipped them, what did the Intel say specifically. It's early, I agree, but eventually these questions need to be answered.

I'm honestly trying to see if they used some type of NSA spying tactics that they usually did before Snowden leaked e truth.

Also, any news on the publics reaction to raiding innocent civilians households? I'm assuming the average civilian is okay with this since the level of fear is increasing by the hour.
 
We should all be asking for a list of names and how they were identified, who tipped them, what did the Intel say specifically. It's early, I agree, but eventually these questions need to be answered.

I'm honestly trying to see if they used some type of NSA spying tactics that they usually did before Snowden leaked e truth.

Also, any news on the publics reaction to raiding innocent civilians households? I'm assuming the average civilian is okay with this since the level of fear is increasing by the hour.
Well what sense does it make to give out info in the middle of the investigation?

Besides, following leads is a trial and error type of deal anyways.
 
Well what sense does it make to give out info in the middle of the investigation?

Besides, following leads is a trial and error type of deal anyways.

Because that's what they do. They get a boner from flexing their muscles. They want to show the public they aren't to be ****** with. That you can't get away with acts of terrorism like this.

from the article i posted

"Prosecutor Francois Molins said the raid was launched after information from tapped telephone conversations, surveillance and witness accounts indicated that the suspected planner of the attacks, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, might be in a safe house in the district."

This is exactly what I mean. Here we go.

I'm assuming we've all seen the immediate blame on national hero Edward Snowden for the attacks in Paris. Stating that this would have been able to be prevented had Snowden not leaked the documents of government and private sector spying and data mining on civilians of all nations.

How we're they able to use these illegal surveillance tactics to capture a "terrorist" ring leader and 19 of its members but they weren't able to use these illegal surveillance tactics to prevent the initial attacks?

Did they have the NSA surveillance "switch" turned off until the attacks? Highly unlikely. Especially when the French governent were warned of said attacks in the first place. Any text, call, email, pager code etc with even a joke about "terrorist" attacks would have been immediately flagged. And since the "terrorists" clearly weren't smart enough to stay off the grid immediately after they've declared war by murdering 150 civilians, we can assume they wouldn't have been smart enough to plan a covert attack on Paris without the French government finding out before hand.
 
A tweet by Ms Remi Maalouf, a news anchor with television channel Russia Today, highlights Mr Putin's colourful take on terrorism: "To forgive them is up to God, but to send them to him is up to me."

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PARIS — A massive police raid Wednesdays killed the suspected ringleader of the Paris attacks during a blitz-style sweep, two senior European intelligence officials said, after investigators followed leads that the fugitive militant was holed up north of the French capital and could be plotting another wave of violence.

More than 100 police and soldiers stormed the building during a seven-hour siege that left two dead including the suspected overseer of the Paris bloodshed, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, who had once boasted he could slip easily between Europe and the Islamic State strongholds in Syria.

The confirmation was made after forsenic experts combed through the aftermath — blown-out windows, floors collapsed by explosions — presumably seeking DNA and other evidence. The intelligence officials spoke on condition of anonymity before announcements from authorities.

The death of the Belgian extremist Abaaoud closed one major dragnet in the international search for suspects from Friday’s carnage that killed at least 129 people and wounded 350 others. At least one other suspect believed closed linked to the Paris attacks remains at large.

But it raised other worrisome questions, including the apparent ability of Abaaoud to evade intelligence agencies while traveling through Europe and whether other possible Islamic State cells could be seeking to strike again.

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It also left no doubt that other potential threats remained.

The target of the raid, an apartment building in the Saint-Denis suburb, was believed to be linked to plans to stage a follow-up attack in the La Defense business district, about 10 miles away, two police officials and an investigator close to the investigation said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to brief media.

As security forces closed in, a woman set off a suicide blast — possibly an explosive-rigged vest or belt — after opening fire.

In addition, at least seven people before the showdown was over in the historic heart of Saint-Denis, a teeming quarter with a large immigrant population.

Five days after the worst violence on French soil since World War II, European nations remained on edge, enhancing vigilance against possible attacks by Islamist militants who have promised to bring the brutal tactics employed in Iraq and Syria to the West.

President François Hollande, seeking to reassure French citizens unnerved by the bloodshed on the streets of Paris, said the attacks would not alter the French way of life.

“We are at war against terrorism, terrorism which declared war on us,” Holland said at a meeting of French maoyors. “It is the [Islamic State] jihadist organization. It has an army. It has financial resources. It has oil. It has a territory.

“It has allies in Europe, including in our country,” he continued, “with young, radicalized Islamist people. It committed atrocities there and wants to kill here. It has killed here.”

On Thursday he renewed his case for an extension to a state of emergency decreed after the attacks and also for changes to the constitution that he said would make France safer.

When Wednesday’s raid began, heavily armed police clad in military gear - some with their faces covered by balaclavas - moved quickly through the dark streets, while helicopters scanned the streets from the skies. For hours, traffic and public transportation were halted, and schools were shuttered.

Uthayaseelan Sanmugan, a 38-year-old cook who lives near the targeted apartment, said he woke up at 4:30 a.m. to the sound of gunfire, went to his window and saw the lights of weapon lasers outside.



What we know so far about who carried out the Paris attacks

When I got to the street, I saw a lot of blood on the sidewalk. The blood of the terrorists.”

Residents were instructed to stay inside their homes.

“I heard gunshots, and, sometime around 7 a.m., a huge blast, an explosion,” said Kelly Ovo, a 45-year-old day laborer who lives close to the apartment under siege.

French police reported that Diesel, a 7-year-old police dog, was “killed by the terrorists” in the raid.

Paris prosecutor François Molins told reporters that the operation was launched after authorities had received information — potentially tips or intelligence information — that Abaaoud, who officials believe was a key figure in planning the attacks, was possible in the area.

Molins is due to address the press again at 7 p.m. local time (1 p.m. Eastern time).

Abaaoud, an ardent Islamic State supporter linked to several other terrorist attempts, was believed to be in Syria earlier this year. But some officials speculate he could have returned to Europe, perhaps passing undetected among the flood of asylum seekers pouring into Greek islands from Turkey.

The siege appeared to have been aided by another potential breakthrough in the probe: the discovery of a mobile phone in a garbage can near the Bataclan Concert Hall, the site of one of Friday’s assaults.

The phone’s data contained a map of the music venue, French media reported, along with a chilling text message sent shortly after the first gunmen entered: “Let’s go, we’re starting.”

The information on the mobile phone opened fresh leads, including to an apartment southeast of Paris in Alfortville, according to Mediapart, a French news outlet.

The hunt for suspects in Friday’s attacks, which took place at a concert hall, several bars and restaurants, and a soccer match, French officials cast a wide net for potential suspects. Across France, 118 additional raids were conducted overnight on Tuesday, with at least 25 arrests. That brought to 414 the total number of raids launched throughout France since Friday’s attack, the Interior Ministry said.

After Friday’s assaults, which laid bare the shortcomings of European intelligence agencies’ ability to prevent militant attacks, officials across the continent have remained on high alert.

In Copenhagen, a terminal at the city’s international airport was briefly evacuated after “an overheard conversation about a bomb,” police said in a Twitter post. The terminal was later reopened.

Countries including Sweden and Italy raised terror alerts. Extra security was posted in St. Peter’s Square, where Pope Francis addressed pilgrims.

French authorities, meanwhile, issued a pan-European bulletin asking people to watch for a Citroen Xsara car that could be carrying Salah Abdeslam, a French militant also accused of having a direct role in the attacks, the Spanish news site El Español reported Wednesday.

On Tuesday, authorities in Hanover, Germany, abruptly called off a friendly soccer match between Germany and the Netherlands that Chancellor Angela Merkel had planned to attend. One target of Friday’s attacks was a friendly soccer match between France and Germany at a crowded stadium north of Paris - not far from the Saint-Denis raids. No explosives were found at the German site.

In Brussels, another soccer match between Belgium and Spain was also canceled Tuesday.

But France’s secretary of sport, Thierry Braillard, said soccer matches around the country will go ahead as planned. “Life must go on,” he told the sports newspaper L’Equipe. German officials said soccer matches would be played as scheduled as well.

In a measure of French concerns, the country on Tuesday invoked for the first time a European Union mutual aid pact that calls for members of the bloc to assist other member states if they are attacked.

France continued air strikes Tuesday night against Islamic State targets in Syria, a significant escalation to its military participation in the U.S.-led campaign against the Islamic State. Also on Wednesday, France’s only aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, embarked from Toulon port en route to the eastern Mediterranean, where its fighter jets will take part in operations against the militant group.

Also Tuesday, Russia conducted a “significant” number of strikes on Raqqa, possibly using sea-launched cruise missiles and long-range bombers, a U.S. defense official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the Russian operation. Those strikes follow the Russian government’s assessment  that explosives brought down an airliner full of Russian tourists over Egypt last month. The Islamic State claimed responsibility for that attack.

Deane reported from London. Virgilie Demoutier, Emily Badger and Karla Adam in Paris, and Brian Murphy in Washington contributed to this report.
 
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