Simultaneous terrorist attacks around Paris...Vol. Here we go again.Update 07/14/16 p42: Nice terror

Survivors at a nearby cafe
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French President Hollande : "We are going to lead a war which will be pitiless. Because when terrorists are capable of comitting such atrocities, they must be certain that they are facing a determined France, a united France, a France that is together, and does not let itself be moved, even if today we express infinite sorrow."



Yeah.... umm. Who is he gonna go to war with? It's a different world. Not that easy. Gonna go to war with ISIS?
 
I wouldn't be surprised if this sped up the transitional government talks between the West/Gulf arabs and Russia and Syria. Work a deal out with Assad and Putin to get him out of power in some form and then combine resources covertly against specifically ISIS
 
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I agree with that

Okay, if you agree with that let me ask you this.


Take you're most Conservative-Religious people here in American and put them up against the most Conservative-Religious Muslims in the Middle East....


Whose chopping your head off in public because you were born attracted to the same sex? Whose chopping your head off first because you (a Liberal, like me) decides that Science is more important than Religion?


Naaaa bro, you can't sit here and tell me that there isn't anything wrong with Conservative-Islam. Christians got there own issues to and they've done there fair share of dirty work (it's all a bunch of fairytales to me anyways) - but I'm not going to be up at night if my daughter is a Lesbian living in Mississippi, I'll be up at night if my daughter was a Lesbian living in Iran tho.

Don't tell me its comparable, don't tell me it's stereotyping - this is a culture at war.
 
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Condolences to the victims and their families...my homies' friends are all safe thankfully.

Thinking ahead, the counterinsurgency measures that France and its allies may take is going to be super important, for the fate of the middle east and the western nations.
 
THANK YOU

There is this faction of Liberal America that makes me ASHAMED to be a Liberal, makes me want to slap the ish out ya'll, makes me want to slap ya'll more than any conservative republican I know.


"Ohhh but 1.6 billion Muslims don't condone violence, Ohhh but its this small minority, Ohhh but Christians did this 500 years ago, stop being stereotypical..."


Why can't we be critical of Islam? Why is it "bashing"? Where is the line?


Grow a pair man, this is a cultural war that's fueled by religion. Whether you want to admit it or not - in this day and age, Islam is that gasoline.

Mmmm. It is not Islam as the religion. Islamic radicalism formed as a political tool to fight foreign western intervention. It is much more complicated.

Islam is just a rehash of Judaism and Christianity. It is just that it has been remixed, and stolen for these scum to implant and make some ideology to use to provide an identity against their enemy. Just like communism or nationalism or whatever.

You need to understand and study the history.

Let's not forget that bombing these countries breeds fundamentalism and these kind of scum. So where does it end?

Let us not forget that western governments indirectly fund these fundamentalists too.
 
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I agree with that

Okay, if you agree with that let me ask you this.


Take you're most Conservative-Religious people here in American and put them up against the most Conservative-Religious Muslims in the Middle East....


Whose chopping your head off in public because you were born attracted to the same sex? Whose chopping your head off first because you (a Liberal, like me) decides that Science is more important than Religion?


Naaaa bro, you can't sit here and tell me that there isn't anything wrong with Conservative-Islam. Christians got there own issues to and they've done there fair share of dirty work (it's all a bunch of fairytales to me anyways) - but I'm not going to be up at night if my daughter is a Lesbian living in Mississippi, I'll be up at night if my daughter was a Lesbian living in Iran tho.

Don't tell me its comparable, don't tell me it's stereotyping - this is a culture at war.

I see what you're saying. I really do but I view systematic terrorism (which also allows violence) the same as the type of terrorism done by Isis. Both harm/kill a lot of folk


Terrorism is terrorism.

Again my thoughts are with Paris and France as a whole.

Hopefully Isis can get taken down but they're so spread out that I honestly don't see it happening anytime soon. The US and other countries trained them well and this is an epic backfire
 
Okay, if you agree with that let me ask you this.


Take you're most Conservative-Religious people here in American and put them up against the most Conservative-Religious Muslims in the Middle East....


Whose chopping your head off in public because you were born attracted to the same sex? Whose chopping your head off first because you (a Liberal, like me) decides that Science is more important than Religion?


Naaaa bro, you can't sit here and tell me that there isn't anything wrong with Conservative-Islam. Christians got there own issues to and they've done there fair share of dirty work (it's all a bunch of fairytales to me anyways) - but I'm not going to be up at night if my daughter is a Lesbian living in Mississippi, I'll be up at night if my daughter was a Lesbian living in Iran tho.

Don't tell me its comparable, don't tell me it's stereotyping - this is a culture at war.

This is because in western countries there is a separation between the church and the state. Let's remember that the Christian western culture has 1000 years ahead of Islam and culturally progressed because of economic development and adequate governance. Let's also not forget what used to happen in Christian run governments that would practice Christianity in orthodoxy and take it literally and commit violence in its name and God. But the western culture has adavanced greatly with liberal thinking and leaned off orthodoxy of religion.

Islam is 1400 years and based in mostly countries that have corrupt governments, failed states, more poor. It is the culture that shapes the religious practice. Let's also not forget how they have been colonized and meddled by the colonizers. Complete different histories and cultures and factors that shaped them.
 
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Just heard an American expat in Paris give his chilling account and said that they were shooting people like birds while hunting at the concert :smh:
 
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RIP to those who lost their lives.

Just another terrible event on a long list of terrible events :smh:
 
So they are saying ISIS is behind this?

How convenient.

Condolences to the people who died in Paris. But if ISIS winds up being responsible, we must remember that they received funding, training and weapons from the good ol' United States of 'Murica.

They will do anything to continue the war machine known as the Military Industrial Complex, but in order to do so they need our compliance. That's the last chess piece. The public opinion is the check mate.
 
So instead of finding out more about the incidents, peeps are gonna compare radical sects of religions in some sort of pissing match? Word? That's the maturity level we at now?

Wow. Might be time for me to leave this forum.
 
They will do anything to continue the war machine known as the Military Industrial Complex, but in order to do so they need our compliance. That's the last chess piece. The public opinion is the check mate.
Gotta keep the money flowing. This **** is gonna end up worse than Vietnam when it's all said and done. 
 
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Some of the hostages in the concert hall were going up to the terrorists pleading for them to spare their wives lives. It didn't work :smh: this is pure evil
 
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Gotta keep the money flowing. This **** is gonna end up worse than Vietnam when it's all said and done. Right after Veteran's Day too...
War money don't stop.

I don't understand your reference to Vietnam, though. Explain?
In the sense that our involvement is absolutely ridiculous and unwarranted, as well as the number of lives lost and shattered for no damn reason, culminating in the fact America gains nothing by it, except a major L. 
 
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