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How is it hypocritical when someone simply views it as entertainment

It is like saying someone should be talking about stopping organized crime, because they are a Sopranos fan.

Plus there is more to likely trap music that listening to them talk about committing crimes. And that goes for any form of music.
 
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RustyShackleford said:
How is it hypocritical when someone simply views it as entertainment

It is like saying someone should be talking about stopping organized crime, because they are a Sopranos fan.

Plus there is more to likely trap music that listening to them talk about committing crimes. And that goes for any form of music.
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Funny you bring up Sopranos, because Itailians don't idolize mob culture the way that we idolize so called "entertainment" that just happens to be real.

I also doubt there could ever be a Jewish rapper that rapped about how cool gas chambers are and they'd eat up every word and pass it off as entertainment.

We are the only people on earth that can have our gift of music being used to perpetuate and celebrate genoicde and chaos and then be stupid enough to defend it as mere entertainment.

One of those idiots you guys love in the music forum has a song where he says "stray bullets hitting kids"...and in the tyshawn Lee thread I see some of the same dudes in there talking about how sad that was.

If you can't see the ridiculousness in that...That's on you.
 
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pretty tony said:
RustyShackleford said:
How is it hypocritical when someone simply views it as entertainment

It is like saying someone should be talking about stopping organized crime, because they are a Sopranos fan.

Plus there is more to likely trap music that listening to them talk about committing crimes. And that goes for any form of music.
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Funny you bring up Sopranos, because Itailians don't idolize mob culture the way that we idolize so called "entertainment" that just happens to be real.

I also doubt there could ever be a Jewish rapper that rapped about how cool gas chambers are and they'd eat up every word and pass it off as entertainment.

We are the only people on earth that can have our gift of music being used to perpetuate and celebrate genoicde and chaos and then be stupid enough to defend it as mere entertainment.

One of those idiots you guys love in the music forum has a song where he says "bullets hitting stray kids"...and in the tyshawn Lee thread I see some of the same dudes in there talking about how sad that was.

If you can't see the ridiculousness in that...That's on you.
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-I'm willy to bet poor Italians with limited economic opportunities look up to monsters too. Most Italians don't probably, just like most middle class and affluent black people don't look up to gang bangers or drug dealers. I willing to stretch that to most black people, period.

I dunno where you're getting this stuff from.

I sure as hell don't, why you think I do, because I listen Gucci? :lol:

BTW, the biggest consumers of rap music are white people. So I hope whenever a white person commits a crime, I hope you're blaming rap for that too.

-Your Jewish example makes no damb sense. Why would a Jew person rap about that? How does that even compare to trap rap?

If a rapper was rapping about how cool it was for black people to be in enslaved or get lynched, he would be smacked off stage.

-And brah spare me the bull **** guilt trip

You have now shifted from enjoying trap music to "idolizing" the culture portrayed in the music.

Those two things are not the same. Not even close.

I am educated, career, support my family and listen to a ton of trap music. So do all the other educated, peaceful black men I am friends with.

Trap rap is fairly tales mostly. If a guy decides to gang bang, or sell drugs or murder someone, music didn't push them to do it. So I have no reason to feel guilty about enjoying any genre of music

If all of rap music went away tomorrow, the problem withins our poor black communities will still exist.

And that is that are driving force in these hideous crimes, poverty and low economic opportunities, that's what push people toward those ways of life, not some ******* Gucci Mane.

I give my time and money to help my people. I have been doing it since I have been able too, so please, please, please miss me with the nonsense that me listening to trap music somehow nullifies my opinion on the problem plaguing my community and my people

And if you can't see how ridiculous your comparison is.............that's on you tio.
 
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-I'm willy to bet poor Italians with limited economic opportunities look up to monsters too. Most Italians don't probably, just like most middle class and affluent black people don't look up to gang bangers or drug dealers. I willing to stretch that to most black people, period.

I dunno where you're getting this stuff from.

I sure as hell don't, why you think I do, because I listen Gucci? :lol:

BTW, the biggest consumers of rap music are white people. So I hope whenever a white person commits a crime, I hope you're blaming rap for that too.

-Your Jewish example makes no damb sense. Why would a Jew person rap about that? How does that even compare to trap rap?

If a rapper was rapping about how cool it was for black people to be in enslaved or get lynched, he would be smacked off stage.

-And brah spare me the bull **** guilt trip

You have now shifted from enjoying trap music to "idolizing" the culture portrayed in the music.

Those two things are not the same. Not even close.

I am educated, career, support my family and listen to a ton of trap music. So do all the other educated, peaceful black men I am friends with.

Trap rap is fairly tales mostly. If a guy decides to gang bang, or sell drugs or murder someone, music didn't push them to do it. So I have no reason to feel guilty about enjoying any genre of music

If all of rap music went away tomorrow, the problem within our poor black communities will still exist.

And that is that are driving force in these hideous crimes, poverty and low economic opportunities, that's what push people toward those ways of life, not some ******* Gucci Mane.

I give my time and money to help my people. I have been doing it since I have been able too, so please, please, please miss me with the nonsense that me listening to trap music somehow nullifies my opinion on the problem plaguing my community and my people

And if you can't see how ridiculous your comparison is.............that's one you.
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Show me once where I blamed crime on rap music...ill wait

I merely pointed out how hypocritical it is to celebrate something your dumb *** chooses to accept as entertainment but when it is real life all of a sudden you get conscious about it.

All that other **** you talking is irrelevant
 
pretty tony said:
RustyShackleford said:
-I'm willy to bet poor Italians with limited economic opportunities look up to monsters too. Most Italians don't probably, just like most middle class and affluent black people don't look up to gang bangers or drug dealers. I willing to stretch that to most black people, period.

I dunno where you're getting this stuff from.

I sure as hell don't, why you think I do, because I listen Gucci? :lol:

BTW, the biggest consumers of rap music are white people. So I hope whenever a white person commits a crime, I hope you're blaming rap for that too.

-Your Jewish example makes no damb sense. Why would a Jew person rap about that? How does that even compare to trap rap?

If a rapper was rapping about how cool it was for black people to be in enslaved or get lynched, he would be smacked off stage.

-And brah spare me the bull **** guilt trip

You have now shifted from enjoying trap music to "idolizing" the culture portrayed in the music.

Those two things are not the same. Not even close.

I am educated, career, support my family and listen to a ton of trap music. So do all the other educated, peaceful black men I am friends with.

Trap rap is fairly tales mostly. If a guy decides to gang bang, or sell drugs or murder someone, music didn't push them to do it. So I have no reason to feel guilty about enjoying any genre of music

If all of rap music went away tomorrow, the problem within our poor black communities will still exist.

And that is that are driving force in these hideous crimes, poverty and low economic opportunities, that's what push people toward those ways of life, not some ******* Gucci Mane.

I give my time and money to help my people. I have been doing it since I have been able too, so please, please, please miss me with the nonsense that me listening to trap music somehow nullifies my opinion on the problem plaguing my community and my people

And if you can't see how ridiculous your comparison is.............that's one you.
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Show me once where I blamed crime on rap music...ill wait

I merely pointed out how hypocritical it is to celebrate something your dumb *** chooses to accept as entertainment but when it is real life all of a sudden you get conscious about it.

All that other **** you talking is irrelevant
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I don't though. I'm conscious of it all the ******* time

You don't know me, you don't know anyone else your condemning as hypocrites

And that other **** is not irrelevant, because if I feel ( and apparently you feel too) that trap rap doesn't hurt my community by causing crime, what is the harm in consuming it? Where is the hypocrisy?

For your silly theory to work that has to be the case, that's why you argument makes no damb sense to me.

If you're admitting it isn't, then me listen to rap music is no more worst that someone laughing at a character hitting their spouse on TV, but yet being opposed to domestic violence. One is real life, one is make believe

-I do tons of stuff to help my people. But I feel the most important issue facing the black community is tear down white supremacy and empowering the community economics. Fix those things and the ripple effects will cause less of this stuff going on.

Keep being on your high horse thinking that the only time I care about my people is when something like this happens.

But you can keep moving the goal post on your stupid theory that listening to trap rap is celebrating the culture, idolizing gangsters......whatever the **** else , thinking that makes it work. It doesn't

You want me to have the same reaction to real life events that I do to made up stories in some music, and you're outrage when folk point out to how "of I would, they are different thing". :rolleyes :lol:

If that silliness rustles you so much, then block me and all the other dudes that you think are guilty of this.
 
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Baltimore inner city have been in shambles since the riots decades ago after MLK was killed. The white leaders DECIDED not to build it up and let it rot ever since then.

Baltimore inner city education has always been and will always be trash.

This is the result you get when you have folks living in a third world neighborhood.


Always gonna be violence in poverty stricken areas.
 
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I don't though. I'm conscious of it all the ******* time

You don't know me, you don't know anyone else your condemning as hypocrites

And that other **** is not irrelevant, because if I feel ( and apparently you feel too) that trap rap doesn't hurt my community by causing crime, what is the harm in consuming it? Where is the hypocrisy?

For your silly theory to work that has to be the case, that's why you argument makes no damb sense to me.

If you're admitting it isn't, then me listen to rap music is no more worst that someone laughing at a character hitting their spouse on TV, but yet being opposed to domestic violence. One is real life, one is make believe

-I do tons of stuff to help my people. But I feel the most important issue facing the black community is tear down white supremacy and empowering the community economics. Fix those things and the ripple effects will cause less of this stuff going on.

Keep being on your high horse thinking that the only time I care about my people is when something like this happens.

But you can keep moving the goal post on your stupid theory that listening to trap rap is celebrating the culture, idolizing gangsters......whatever the **** else , thinking that makes it work. It doesn't

You want me to have the same reaction to real life events that I do to made up stories in some music, and you're outrage when folk point out to how "of I would, they are different thing". :rolleyes :lol:

If that silliness rustles you so much, then block me and all the other dudes that you think are guilty of this.
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***** I'm not reading this essay ****

Clearly I struck a nerve. Get off your rag
 
Oh ok, So you were just trollin with that nonsense :lol:

Ok famb, good to know, now I know to ignore your post from now on :smile:
 
Oh no. Please read my posts. That would absolutely validate my existence in life if some gay dude read my posts
 
Whenever someone brings up the notion that black people should stop killing black people, people get mad offended and accuse that person of being a sws, uncle tom, deflecting etc. Black people should be banding together instead of creating more division amongst ourselves. I can only imagine how foolish it looks from the outside looking in. If I were another race, I would definitely be like "they condemn other races for harming blacks, yet they continue to kill themselves... and in some instances, celebrate it, brag and make songs about it."

I feel what pretty tony is saying 100%. Rap music is literally prison marketing. People love to celebrate dastardly, mischievous behavior under the guise of "it's just entertainment". Sadly we've been programmed to downplay the severity of killing black people because that's what this country was built upon. Killing black men has always been encouraged, fashionable and beneficial in this country. Some people are just too blind to see it. That's why I can't rock with a LOT of rap music anymore. I just can't cosign somebody talking about "young [boy] in the cut, [he'll] take you out for some Jordans".

Rappers are getting rich off of planting seeds of genocide, period.
 
RustyShackleford said:
 
pretty tony said:
Oh no. Please read my posts. That would absolutely validate my existence in life if some gay dude read my posts
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It is 2015 papi

You think I'm going to be offend if you call me gay, I don't care
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Step your insult game up famb
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son really is out here sounding extra bitter. Took it back to grade school with the "b-b-but your gay" insult
 
I wonder what happens to his family now. If they stay in that neighborhood, if that fence gets finished.
We hear these stories, but only a capsule in time into these lives that have to continue on after such a dark tragedy.
:smh:
 
Man this stop snitchin bs should only apply to cats thats doing wrong. If people are innocent leave them alone. Violence and murder shouldnt go hand in hand with poverty. No matter what race people are. Our generation needs to try and change this mentality but sadly nothing will change. People only care about themselves and dont give 2 s**ts about the next man.



Smh sad to hear this good father lost his life for trying to provide a better life for his children. May he rest in peace
 
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Find me a poor poverty stricken area filled with drugs that don't have violence.


Same **** in every damn city with these issues. Any country

Edit: middle class blacks do less drugs and commit less crimes than whites

Only negative criminal stat you're gonna put against blacks are the ones that are dirt poor
 
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First off rest in peace to that man, very sad and unfortunate.hope his family gets through this. Maybe a go fund me so they can get a new car for protection. Smdh

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295 people have been killed in bmore this year :x please tell me that was a typo


but dude got a point...we gotta stop being hyprocrites
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Agreed its sickening, i wish there was more consistency with the outrage regardless of the killers race.

Heres is chicagos numbers and its still november smgdh.. SICKENING
Shot & Killed: 392
Shot & Wounded: 2263
Total Shot: 2655
Total Homicides: 444

RustyShackleford RustyShackleford those storys you listen to might be storys to the fake as ppl rapping it and profiting, but they sure as heck arent false storys.they literally happen every day out here. Drill music? Just storys? No not at all, ish is fuel to the fire. And yes those storys are respected and idolized by ppl and kids or you wouldnt be listening to it. Dont tell me the old "i listen to music for the beat" stuff. Rapping about killing drug dealing and gang activity keep it alive and in your face. These statistics below are from the city where drill music started and most dominant i believe. Coincidence?

Shot & Killed: 392
Shot & Wounded: 2263
Total Shot: 2655
Total Homicides: 444

I really dobt have a point to prove im just stating how i see things. Also not here for a debate honestly but im just saying. Really intetested to see a few of the usual race argumental niketalkers opinion on this,but i doubt well see them in here. This world gets closer and closer to animalism and is more self destructive by the day. Truly disappointing.

Sorry for the essay guys bit this hits home for me.
 
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Truly sickening. He sounded like a good guy and was killed for doing the right thing. RIP.
 
Dude i agree with you on some of it and those other points are very large factors in everything going on.im for sure not solely puting it on rap music, really not at all. Im just saying its a small amount of fuel on a big fire that doesnt need any more fuel. Alot of middle class kids with choices listen to drill and think its the only reality and respect those words durk is spitting more than successful adults trying to point them in the right direction.

Edit:And i wasnt taught any sugar coated history in school, i say animalism because we have 12-18 year old kids of all races taking eachother out for respect. Thats the age most trigger men are now out here. Streets are literally like a jungle man thats what i mean by animalism. I want to add, in my city and all over the world crime,gang activity, drugs violence has no color. You might be getting a little worked up over here because your thinking im only talking about african americans? Not even close to my mindset on this, gangs and crime dont only have one race (maybe only on the news) its everybody as a whole thats involved in the "animalism" im reffering to. The only people exempt to speaking on in that lifestyle imo are asians. :lol:

As far as questions if your talking to me.i honestly dont remember you asking me anything or you would have gotten a straight answer from me.
 
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the statistics are frightening. but best believe socioeconomic factors have a lot to do with those statistics.
 
If this is ever going to be fixed our country needs to stop with all the dividing going on and unite and tackle this problem together. There is several different reasons as to why we have all these problems in the first place but instead of arguing about which factors are causing these problems more we need to find solutions and ways to fix this mess. Only way thats ever going to happen is if we do this together. Black, white, democrat, republican, rich, poor, etc etc etc.
 
Yes, treacherous deeds have been committed to keep black people down but there comes a point since accountability has to be taken. All of that is no excuse for the murder rate to be where it is... And sadly people are proud of it, until it hits home. "chi-raq" is the cool term to use until your family member is a casualty.

I'm not putting 100% blame on rap, but it definitely encourages and influences menacing behavior by glorifying the positives of street life.

And don't even compare it to movies because, albeit it's all entertainment, they're different.

You know for a fact that this person is an actor and that's not his real name/life, whereas rappers are judges and critiqued on how real they are and how accurately their lyrics depict their life.

I'll say it again for emphasis:killing black men in this country has always been accepted, encouraged and profitable, and now the powers that be even have Blacks bagging and dancing about it themselves.

When Ross dropped that line about molly in champagne, women's right activists were on that i$h before he could get his number 3 at wing stop. But when he talks about killing other black men, it's all good.
 
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