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I get that most of you want everyone to be man and man or woman and woman because it's "not a big deal", but that is YOUR OPINON. I don't bash it and I have no problem with it, so long as it doesn't concern my kids. 
Who the hell said this?? foh with your strawman 
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2 men are not suppose to raise a child together
Family is the bond between man woman and child. Not man man and child.
I personally agree with this belief.  Which is why I didn't specifically consider those suggested alternatives.

Edit: Same rule applies if it were 2 women. No reason to be hypocritical.
 
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what about woman woman child...?

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Even worse B
If 2 women raise a daughter, shorty gonna grow up thinking she don't need a man in her life. One thing leads to the next and that family tree is dead, B. She ain't having no kids

If 2 women raise a son, he gonna grow up emulating his moms and be wild feminine. Therefore ending the family tree right there.

But to each his own
 
What you think is more of a problem, a child growing up with two parents or a child growing up with one?

Srs
 
Watching the draft with my son, he doesn't need to see Michael Sam kissing. 
Consider the following, aka the only Jan Vesely NBA highlight ever recorded:



If you're saying that's acceptable and Michael Sam's kiss isn't, then you're basically saying that LGBT couples don't have the same rights as straight couples, that they aren't allowed to demonstrate affection for each other in public.  

"I don't care what they do, but I should never have to see it" is not "tolerance."  It's suppression.  

If you don't want to kiss a man on the lips, don't.  That's an easy one.  But you don't have the right to tell two men that they aren't "allowed" to kiss because it makes you feel some type of way. 

If there's a "push" involved there, it's a push to be treated with the same dignity and respect that straight, cisgender people are.  
 
Even worse B
If 2 women raise a daughter, shorty gonna grow up thinking she don't need a man in her life. One thing leads to the next and that family tree is dead, B. She ain't having no kids

If 2 women raise a son, he gonna grow up emulating his moms and be wild feminine. Therefore ending the family tree right there.

But to each his own

i get where you are coming from...i don't agree with it...but to cover all the grounds here...are those views the same for single moms and dads...?
 
What you think is more of a problem, a child growing up with two parents or a child growing up with one?

Srs

Honestly, as long as a child for guidance in his /her life, everything will be fine.
I'd rather see a child be raised by 2 men than seeing a child being raised by the streets
 
2 men are not suppose to raise a child together
Family is the bond between man woman and child. Not man man and child.

This will fall on deaf ears. I agree with you BTW.

whats odd to me is that with same sex couples, there is one observably more masculine and the other more feminine.......
like thats how its supposed to be or something.....
 
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What you think is more of a problem, a child growing up with two parents or a child growing up with one?

Srs

Honestly, as long as a child for guidance in his /her life, everything will be fine.
I'd rather see a child be raised by 2 men than seeing a child being raised by the streets
So same sex couples aren't suppose to raise children together but as long as a child has guidance everything will be fine? Huh? :lol:
 
If you're saying that's acceptable and Michael Sam's kiss isn't, then you're basically saying that LGBT couples don't have the same rights as straight couples, that they aren't allowed to demonstrate affection for each other in public.  

"I don't care what they do, but I should never have to see it" is not "tolerance."  It's suppression.  

If you don't want to kiss a man on the lips, don't.  That's an easy one.  But you don't have the right to tell two men that they aren't "allowed" to kiss because it makes you feel some type of way. 


If there's a "push" involved there, it's a push to be treated with the same dignity and respect that straight, cisgender people are.  

That's not even remotely close to what I was saying. I was completely fine with the kiss, he's a grown man that's his CHOICE. My son doesn't need to see it though, and that can be contributed to me letting him watch tv (thus I'm cutting the cord - see my first post on this).

"I don't care what they do, but I should never have to see it" is not "tolerance." It's suppression.

Again, NEVER said anything close to that.

If there's a "push" involved there, it's a push to be treated with the same dignity and respect that straight, cisgender people are.

Because they are so hated and repressed. Right.
 
2 men are not suppose to raise a child together
Family is the bond between man woman and child. Not man man and child.

This will fall on deaf ears. I agree with you BTW.

whats odd to me is that with same sex couples, there is one observably more masculine and the other more feminine.......
like thats how its supposed to be or something.....
Word they should just be straight right?
I only point that out cus it alludes to how innate and intrinsic the male and female gender roles are in relationships
 
for some reason it's hard to believe when ppl say they wouldn't care if their son was gay. I mean really? You wouldn't care? I don't buy that.
What's wrong with having a gay kid? as long as they are able to have a successful, happy life

As messed up as this sounds, if I end up having a gay kid life would be hard for that little dude. His entire family (cousins, aunts , uncles etc) would not acknowledge him. I would try to be as supportive as possible, but deep down I would be ashamed. Maybe as I get older that mentality would change but as of right now that's how I feel about it.
 
for some reason it's hard to believe when ppl say they wouldn't care if their son was gay. I mean really? You wouldn't care? I don't buy that.
What's wrong with having a gay kid? as long as they are able to have a successful, happy life

As messed up as this sounds, if I end up having a gay kid life would be hard for that little dude. His entire family (cousins, aunts , uncles etc) would not acknowledge him. I would try to be as supportive as possible, but deep down I would be ashamed. Maybe as I get older that mentality would change but as of right now that's how I feel about it.
Why would you be ashamed? I genuinely what to know. Would it matter if they were masculine or feminine?
 
I only point that out cus it alludes to how innate and intrinsic the male and female gender roles are in relationships

That's an appeal to nature...a fallacy

It's also natural for some animals to cannibalize their offspring

And not all same sex couples fit into the "one masculine one feminine" scenario
 
Gay dudes excel in fashion, music and the arts in general lol

Of course I don't wish to have a gay kid but he could be happy and successful

That's important
 
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I only point that out cus it alludes to how innate and intrinsic the male and female gender roles are in relationships
More so alludes to what society think female and male roles are.

In a gay relationship if one guy does most of the cooking we would assume he's the more feminine one. In a lesbian relationship the chick who turns to First Take instead of Wendy Williams we would assume she's the more manly one.

That has nothing to do with them, that's just how we view them.
 
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for some reason it's hard to believe when ppl say they wouldn't care if their son was gay. I mean really? You wouldn't care? I don't buy that.
What's wrong with having a gay kid? as long as they are able to have a successful, happy life

As messed up as this sounds, if I end up having a gay kid life would be hard for that little dude. His entire family (cousins, aunts , uncles etc) would not acknowledge him. I would try to be as supportive as possible, but deep down I would be ashamed. Maybe as I get older that mentality would change but as of right now that's how I feel about it.
Why would you be ashamed? I genuinely what to know. Would it matter if they were masculine or feminine?

It wouldn't matter if they were masculine/feminine or male/female, I would feel the same way about it. I would feel like I failed them while raising them. Where I'm from a kid growing up happy is important, but it's not the only criteria you go off of. There is a religious and social element involved as well in their upbringing, and if they were gay they would essentially be ostracized from both in our culture. It's important to me to have my family not be completely Americanized, and maintain some sort of connection to the homeland. However if they were gay, that connection would be impossible to have, and that would never sit well with me no matter how I tried to suppress it in front of them.
 
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