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LuckyLuchiano said:
What in THE hell are you talking about.

You have no idea what you are talking about, and you are either dumb as bricks are quoting the wrong person.

Being Black goes beyond being gay, tall, short, male or female.

Point Blank.

Black Gays face racism from White gays.

Christ you this site never fails to show how trash it has become.

From this point use the Holocaust and Native Americans for your comparisons instead of blacks.

Idiots talking about Blacks as if it was not White Law Makers creating the laws preventing gay marriage and European Religions pushing Anti Gay ideals while being Gay Pedophiles themselves.
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You are so caught up on equating the struggle, that you refuse to empathize with the LGBT because blacks have had it worst....the direct comparison was never even brought up, the civil rights movement and all the struggles blacks have faced because of their color was never equated to what gays have face, it was simply said that the two groups have faced persecution, discrimination, killings, simply because of who they are, no one said the struggle was of the same magnitude....I never came across a group of people so caught up on themselves to not accept that other groups have faced struggles of their own and that we should all work towards a future where color or sexual orientation shouldn't be frowned upon....you would think a group that has faced so much discrimination would be more understanding and accepting.
 
LuckyLuchiano said:
Compare the Gay struggle to the Native American Genocide and Holocaust please. If your going to disrespect one group, disrespect them all.

There were Gay Slave owners who raped male salves in order to break them.

Once again quit disrespecting millions that have died to compare Apples to Oranges.
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Once again you downplay the struggles of LGBT communities which were explicitly stated in this thread millions of times.

You only care about the "disrespect" of these comparisons but won't defend gays in any capacity.
 
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Sheesh. Yall are going at each other's THROATS in here.
 
pretty tony said:
I never said **** about not accepting anything.

YOU are the one suggesting that because I don't believe the two situations are comparable...that somehow means that I'm not "accepting".

You can't find one ******* quote of me saying "I don't accept homosexuality" in this thread

Your argument got torn to pieces so now you're accusing me of **** I never said or suggested.
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Did gays and blacks get killed because of their identity? Yes
Did gays and blacks get refused civil rights? Yes
Did gays and blacks get openly disparaged? Yes
Do gays and blacks still receive social stigmas? Yes


How are they not comparable?
 
ksteezy said:
You are so caught up on equating the struggle, that you refuse to empathize with the LGBT because blacks have had it worst....the direct comparison was never even brought up, the civil rights movement and all the struggles blacks have faced because of their color was never equated to what gays have face, it was simply said that the two groups have faced persecution, discrimination, killings, simply because of who they are, no one said the struggle was of the same magnitude....I never came across a group of people so caught up on themselves to not accept that other groups have faced struggles of their own and that we should all work towards a future where color or sexual orientation shouldn't be frowned upon....you would think a group that has faced so much discrimination would be more understanding and accepting.
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What in the hell are you talking about?

Quit grouping me with other people.

Once again, Showing another human common decency and respect DOES NOT = ACCEPTING THEIR BEHAVIOR.

President Obama LITERALLY said he does not Agree with Gay marriage and stated he has not right to stand in the way of gays getting married, and was a supporter of Gay marriage.

If I do not agree with homosexuality, that has nothing to do with oppressing someone. If I let Gay people live their life, what why do I owe them anything more? You literally have Gay Racist White people, I do not plead to them to accept Blacks.

Jesus Christ.
 
letsgetit22 said:
 
sea manup said:
and gay people are subjected to discrimination simply because they are gay....
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No ****. I'm not refuting that. I'm just saying, don't compare it to black struggle.
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you bring up how black people are subjected to discrimination because they are gay as an example of how bad black people have it

i bring up the exact same thing but with gays

you dont refute what I brought up but somehow the situations are not comparable? 

you do know that its possible to care about black rights AND gay rights right? 
 
Stop arguing with Lion Blood...like this is literally him 


and he hyperglycemia . Like he ain't even worth going back and forth with 
 
ksteezy said:
You are so caught up on equating the struggle, that you refuse to empathize with the LGBT because blacks have had it worst....the direct comparison was never even brought up, the civil rights movement and all the struggles blacks have faced because of their color was never equated to what gays have face, it was simply said that the two groups have faced persecution, discrimination, killings, simply because of who they are, no one said the struggle was of the same magnitude....I never came across a group of people so caught up on themselves to not accept that other groups have faced struggles of their own and that we should all work towards a future where color or sexual orientation shouldn't be frowned upon....you would think a group that has faced so much discrimination would be more understanding and accepting.
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Excellent post, but unfortunately this isn't going to end anything.
 
illmatic34 said:
Once again you downplay the struggles of LGBT communities which were explicitly stated in this thread millions of times.

You only care about the "disrespect" of these comparisons but won't defend gays in any capacity.
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I`m not down playing anything, because I have enough respect for people off all backgrounds to not engage in a pissing contest of who had what worst.

The Gay Struggle is not the same as what Blacks Endured/
What Blacks Endured is not the same as the Holocaust
The Holocaust is not the same as the Arab Slave Trade
The Arab Slave Trade is not the same as the Native American Genocide.

Don't ever quote me again with that disrespect.
 
letsgetit22 said:
And why don't people ever question homophobic Jewish, Armenian, and any other opressed cultures? Srs question
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Can someone answer this? All I keep seeing is "black people should understand." No one ever tells those cultures "they should understand."
 
LuckyLuchiano said:
What in the hell are you talking about?

Quit grouping me with other people.

Once again, Showing another human common decency and respect DOES NOT = ACCEPTING THEIR BEHAVIOR.

President Obama LITERALLY said he does not Agree with Gay marriage and stated he has not right to stand in the way of gays getting married, and was a supporter of Gay marriage.

If I do not agree with homosexuality, that has nothing to do with oppressing someone. If I let Gay people live their life, what why do I owe them anything more? You literally have Gay Racist White people, I do not plead to them to accept Blacks.

Jesus Christ.
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Why do you not agree with homosexuality? How does it affect you in any sense that it would cause you to disapprove of it?
 
ksteezy said:
 
 
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You are so caught up on equating the struggle, that you refuse to empathize with the LGBT because blacks have had it worst....the direct comparison was never even brought up, the civil rights movement and all the struggles blacks have faced because of their color was never equated to what gays have face, it was simply said that the two groups have faced persecution, discrimination, killings, simply because of who they are, no one said the struggle was of the same magnitude....I never came across a group of people so caught up on themselves to not accept that other groups have faced struggles of their own and that we should all work towards a future where color or sexual orientation shouldn't be frowned upon....you would think a group that has faced so much discrimination would be more understanding and accepting.
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That's still a comparison though. Like why do Blacks keep getting brought up when some gay argument start. 

Compare the American gay struggle to the Jewish struggle. Both got being white skin to fall back on. Only difference is gays aren't getting reparations 
 
illmatic34 said:
Why do you not agree with homosexuality? How does it affect you in any sense that it would cause you to disapprove of it?
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Why are you trying to force me to approve of something? Why are you trying to remove my human right of having an opinion?

Man shut the hell up talking to me.
 
pretty tony said:
You people are completely ******* clueless.

You seriously have the audacity to compare people that weren't considered HUMAN in a not so distant past...to a group with a "plight" based around who they have sex with.

Come to talk to me when homosexuals are undergoing genoicde before you dare speak that "blacks should understand" ********.
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pretty tony said:
This is debatable. There is absolutely no irrefutable evidence leaning one way or the other.

I love how people hang ther hats on that "born this way" when it's 100% inconclusive and a subject of debate in the scientific community.
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pretty tony said:
I never said **** about not accepting anything.

YOU are the one suggesting that because I don't believe the two situations are comparable...that somehow means that I'm not "accepting".

You can't find one ******* quote of me saying "I don't accept homosexuality" in this thread

Your argument got torn to pieces so now you're accusing me of **** I never said or suggested.
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You didn't have to literally say you don't accept homosexuality....it's obvious by these statements THAT YOU SIMPLY DONT.
 
LIONBLOOD said:
This site has a lot of black people, who else are we supposed to use as a point of reference? It's not only black people who get called out for that ignorance on here, it's religious folks as well. People take it to heart because they harbor hatred and want to keep as much of a distance between themselves and what they hate.
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This site has tons of Jews and Asians also. Please use them as points of reference thanks.
 
Mr Marcus said:
 
ksteezy said:
 
 
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You are so caught up on equating the struggle, that you refuse to empathize with the LGBT because blacks have had it worst....the direct comparison was never even brought up, the civil rights movement and all the struggles blacks have faced because of their color was never equated to what gays have face, it was simply said that the two groups have faced persecution, discrimination, killings, simply because of who they are, no one said the struggle was of the same magnitude....I never came across a group of people so caught up on themselves to not accept that other groups have faced struggles of their own and that we should all work towards a future where color or sexual orientation shouldn't be frowned upon....you would think a group that has faced so much discrimination would be more understanding and accepting.
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That's still a comparison though. Like why do Blacks keep getting brought up when some gay argument start. 

Compare the American gay struggle to the Jewish struggle. Both got being white skin to fall back on. Only difference is gays aren't getting reparations 
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all gay americans have white skin to fall back on? 
 
LuckyLuchiano said:
Why are you trying to force me to approve of something? Why are you trying to remove my human right of having an opinion?

Man shut the hell up talking to me.
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Lol, because you're homophobic simply put. There's no legitimate reason for disapproving homosexuality. But ight b, go head and cook.
 
LIONBLOOD said:
This site has a lot of black people, who else are we supposed to use as a point of reference? It's not only black people who get called out for that ignorance on here, it's religious folks as well. People take it to heart because they harbor hatred and want to keep as much of a distance between themselves and what they hate.
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There are a lot of Asian and White people on here as well. But carry on...
 
LIONBLOOD said:
No one is forcing you to do anything. I can't force a racist white person not to disapprove of black people. However I do have a right to call you a bigot and contest your bigoted views. You've been spewing nothing but hatred in here, until meth comes through I don't see anyone forcing you to do anything.
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Ok you are trolling now.

Obama is a Bigot too right?
 
ksteezy said:
 
pretty tony said:
You people are completely ******* clueless.

You seriously have the audacity to compare people that weren't considered HUMAN in a not so distant past...to a group with a "plight" based around who they have sex with.

Come to talk to me when homosexuals are undergoing genoicde before you dare speak that "blacks should understand" ********.
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pretty tony said:
This is debatable. There is absolutely no irrefutable evidence leaning one way or the other.

I love how people hang ther hats on that "born this way" when it's 100% inconclusive and a subject of debate in the scientific community.
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pretty tony said:
I never said **** about not accepting anything.

YOU are the one suggesting that because I don't believe the two situations are comparable...that somehow means that I'm not "accepting".

You can't find one ******* quote of me saying "I don't accept homosexuality" in this thread

Your argument got torn to pieces so now you're accusing me of **** I never said or suggested.
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You didn't have to literally say you don't accept homosexuality....it's obvious by these statements THAT YOU SIMPLY DONT.
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same as the racists who say show me where I said exactly "i am a racist" word for word, you cant so i'm not a racist 
 
Mr Marcus said:
That's still a comparison though. Like why do Blacks keep getting brought up when some gay argument start. 

Compare the American gay struggle to the Jewish struggle. Both got being white skin to fall back on. Only difference is gays aren't getting reparations 
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I'm assuming because a big percentage of NTers are black based on how easy threads take a turn towards a race debate...so is pretty much how things go down on NT...is the easiest sort of parallel to draw when it comes to being discriminated and dealing with struggles because of who you are.
 
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