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Why do we have to use LITTLE KIDS to show this though? People that haven't even experienced puberty yet. People that haven't even really been on this earth that long. People that don't even understand what SEXUALITY is.

Why are we using an 8 year old boy to prove that, "Homosexuality is a real thing."

Why the kids is all I ask

Because it disallows them to harbor resentment among gays if they're taught to be more accepting. If a kid makes fun of a mentally disabled person, a parent would tell them "No that's not OK, they are born this way but that doesn't make them different from you and me". That's what I'm trying to get at.


So let me ask you this. Say a man, turned himself into a woman, and is now competing in female sports. Are the people that have a problem with this because it creates a competitive advantage going to be considered transPHOBIC as well?

Well they would have went through a full transition at that point and have more estrogen in their system than testosterone. Wouldn't be much of an advantage.

It doesn't "bother" me outside of simply it being on the news and me having an opinion on the topic.

Fair enough but I just don't see why anyone would oppose homosexuality or transsexualism.
 
So why is Bruce considered a woman if he hasn't gone through the entire transition?
So, essentially, a person disagreeing with him winning woman of the year doesn't make them transphobic, correct?
 

Taking estrogen does not decrease bone density (men have denser bones then women), nor does it decrease muscle (which men have naturally more of on average).

Estrogen supplementation would only postpone the gains of these things.

Theres a difference between a child at 2 yrs old or 10 yrs old taking estrogen and a man who has entered or passed puberty.
 
Well they would have went through a full transition at that point and have more estrogen in their system than testosterone. Wouldn't be much of an advantage.
So based on your logic, Bruce STILL has his penis, so he hasn't gone through a FULL transition. How and why is a person with a penis being considered a woman? And winning woman of the year awards?

Like, help me rationalize what their motive was with that other than, "Getting hits."
 
That is very relevent to your question.

How can you enage in a conversation you do not understand?

Quote me every post I called homosexuality a sickness

No wonder you have failed to comprehend anything posted.
Jesus christ not this again. That entire rant did not involve you. It wasn't about you, you didn't call homosexuality a sickness.
You've proven yourself to be damn near illiterate and you want to call me out?

Why is it so hard for you to answer a question? Again, what is there to "disagree" with about homosexuality?
If I said I disagree with black people wouldn't you agree that such a comment would be perceived as hateful? Again, I'm not saying you hate gays, I'm just asking you to clarify a statement.
You could just say you respect them and their lifestyle but it's not something you enjoy seeing and would never partake in.
I don't enjoy seeing gay people kiss or gay sex scenes on TV shows because that's not my sexual preferance but I'd never say something like I disagree with homosexuality because I know how such a comment can be perceived. I fully support them because they're people just like you and me, I don't see what I would disagree with.
 
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This entire thread has been you trying to act create a divide between gays and blacks. When you can be gay and black that's been your modus operandi this entire thread with your other race baiting posse. Stop trying to back track. You went on all kinds rants about how gays don't have it as bad as blacks. If you are changing your tone them congrats I have cured your ignorance. Pays self on back.

You have yet to provide evidence of any of your claims. My stance has not changed and neither has your trolling.
 
Taking estrogen does not decrease bone density (men have denser bones then women), nor does it decrease muscle (which men have naturally more of on average).

Estrogen supplementation would only postpone the gains of these things.

Theres a difference between a child at 2 yrs old or 10 yrs old taking estrogen and a man who has entered or passed puberty.
So basically a man that has went through the "full transformation" would still be stronger than the women he is competiting against, if he is an athlete.

So the question remains, if anyone has a problem with the competitive advantage that a trans-woman would have over traditional women, should they be considered transPHOBIC?
 
We are going to act like kids were NT using gay slurs at 8 and calling people they dont like homosexuals and saying they are sissies and like dudes. Clearly they know what it means and have been brought up by the type of bigotS in this thread.
They know the words that offend people. That doesn't mean they know what sexuality is Anton.
 
Jesus christ not this again. That entire rant did not involve you. It wasn't about you, you didn't call homosexuality a sickness.
You've proven yourself to be damn near illiterate and you want to call me out?

I tell you dont compare struggles of people. You quote me on the discussions of someone agreeing or not agreeing with things.

You equate not agreeing with someone with not having sympathy with someone.

You sir are the illiterate one.
 
I have 0 Problem with jenner or transgenders but to me if you dont have the ability to have a child (minus defects of course) You are not a woman.
And i understand some women because of complications or what not cannot have kids but yall know what i mean.

Its that simple imho
 
this here is the problem. people dont know how to live and let live. i respect others differences without accepting them. we got "straight" dudes on here ready to gargle a set of balls if anybody says anything contrary to what is deemed acceptable by the pc police. but when some racist **** goes down those same people aint saying **** or theyre out there trolling.

1. So if I said that about a person of color that would be ok?
2. Lol do you not see this is offensive to gays? Who cares if straight guys campaign for gays/transgendered people? PC police? So it's ok to be misogynistic or homophobic or racist? "PC" police don't want people to make ignorant comments and call people out on it. Like people literally getting offended in here because of their offensive comments. Got it.
3. Really? So we can't be for both LGBT and black rights?


No, POC can be prejudice, a racist is one who practices racism, to practice racism there must be a system and or infrastructure that enforces these ideals.

When has there been a system in place in the US that made it legal for blacks to kill whites?

When has there been a system that protected black police officiers sending dogs and using fire hoses on white people who just want to go to church or school?

POC can have prejudice opinions.

This is what happens when schools refuse to teach students about the true history this nation. We get people like you who equate ignorant name calling with systematic oppression.

Racist definition here:

noun
1.
a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that one's own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.

Doesn't say anything about a system here. You can surely say ignorant **** about someone and have it be racist.

Institutional racism is the overarching system of oppression here. Like I don't even get why we're arguing. As for the bolded, I don't disagree with you and quit pulling words out of your *** saying that I said all of THAT because I didn't. America needs to teach more about the Trail of Tears, blockbusting, redlining, Japanese internment camps, etc. But that's because white people won't teach it.
 
So basically a man that has went through the "full transformation" would still be stronger than the women he is competiting against, if he is an athlete.

So the question remains, if anyone has a problem with the competitive advantage that a trans-woman would have over traditional women, should they be considered transPHOBIC?

If lebron james decided to transition now he would not lose any of his athletic ability. He would how ever not be able to gain additional muscle and strength due to the fact he has haulted or limited testosterone production. This is why women who take roids have to take estrogen blockers as estrogen counter acts the test to create balance being that there would now be an increase in test. This is why they gain strength and stop having their cycles.
 
I'm not an expert either but there has been a debate in the MMA world for a while now about a transgender fighter fighting women. People say she shouldn't be allowed because of her advantages. A couple things that are brought up in the debate are bone density, structure, and size of hands. After hearing both sides of the debate and reading a few articles her and there I would say transgenders do have an advantage in certain women's sports. 
 
So basically a man that has went through the "full transformation" would still be stronger than the women he is competiting against, if he is an athlete.

So the question remains, if anyone has a problem with the competitive advantage that a trans-woman would have over traditional women, should they be considered transPHOBIC?

No, that's completely different from "Well he used to be a man so he can't compete in a woman's sport"
 
If lebron james decided to transition now he would not lose any of his athletic ability. He would how ever not be able to gain additional muscle and strength due to the fact he has haulted or limited testosterone production. This is why women who take roids have to take estrogen blockers as estrogen counter acts the test to create balance being that there would now be an increase in test. This is why they gain strength and stop having their cycles.
So if LeBron pulls a Bruce Jenner and then joins the WNBA and people have a problem with it, THOSE people are transPHOBIC? Cool, I get it.
 
I have 0 Problem with jenner or transgenders but to me if you dont have the ability to have a child (minus defects of course) You are not a woman.
And i understand some women because of complications or what not cannot have kids but yall know what i mean.

Its that simple imho

According to NT you are a bigot.
 
I have 0 Problem with jenner or transgenders but to me if you dont have the ability to have a child (minus defects of course) You are not a woman.
And i understand some women because of complications or what not cannot have kids but yall know what i mean.

Its that simple imho
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Gender and sex aren't fluid concepts. Being woman isn't subject to just having kids.
 
No, that's completely different from "Well he used to be a man so he can't compete in a woman's sport"
So again, if LeBron STARTED the process of turning into a woman TOMORROW. And he decided to go into the WNBA, and people have a problem with it and said, "He was JUST LEBRON JAMES, he shouldn't be allowed to participate."

Those people are transPHOBIC?

Please don't run from THIS question
 
This thread is going exactly how I expected it go to. Racism, bigotry, even a hypothetical transgender Lebron.

Its amazing NT is free.

:lol: x :pimp:
 
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I'm not an expert either but there has been a debate in the MMA world for a while now about a transgender fighter fighting women. People say she shouldn't be allowed because of her advantages. A couple things that are brought up in the debate are bone density, structure, and size of hands. After hearing both sides of the debate and reading a few articles her and there I would say transgenders do have an advantage in certain women's sports. 
So since you also have an issue with them participating in the sport they love, you will be labeled transPHBOIC.

See why this doesn't make sense @illmatic  ?
 
So if LeBron pulls a Bruce Jenner and then joins the WNBA and people have a problem with it, THOSE people are transPHOBIC? Cool, I get it.

Dude, competitive advantages don't ******* matter compared to the oppression of transgendered people. If LeBron decided to do that then let him do it. You act like legions of male athletes are lining up to change their gender just to dominate in women's sports.
 
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