Any NTers ever been to PRISON? Vol. thankful for freedom

RustyShackleford said:
I didn't misunderstand a thing brah, your words are clear as day, unless you meant to write something else.

I simply don't believe you. And you're clearly trying to backtrack a lil now

-First off, you want me to believe from the end of August someone got clearance for a gender reassignment surgery, had the surgery done, recovered from it, lived life a second, decided they wanted it reverse, got approval for the reversal and got it done.

In that small amount of time, that is a major reach famb.
 
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Where did I backtrack? You assumed 40% reversal was actually reassignment, which it is not. I clarified. Not all gender reassignment surgeries in prison are published for everyone to see.

I'm telling you from August  when I first started orienting at the prison there has been 2 gender reassignments at my facility and 1 of them was reversed on the taxpayer dime.  I guess it's a farfetched, crazy reach to see that as possible. 

The legal door has just been opened, do you really think it's CRAZY to see prisoners trying to get FREE surgery in prison at an alarming rate when it was just ruled that they can get it?

From a different perspective: is it crazy to pursue surgery as soon as possible when you consider yourself to be the other gender your entire life? The thing that you have been waiting for, all/most your life.

Prior you said 
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So a "ton" is 2 surgeries; and 40% of 2 is .8. So .8 gender reassessment reversal surgeries were performed in your jail
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So, my bad 50% of the ones that I've encountered from my experience in my tiny sample size, not 40%. 
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 A higher percentage..50%

https://news.vice.com/article/calif...ites-debate-over-transgender-rights-in-prison

August 10, 2015
 In a settlement reached on Friday, California's department of corrections said that it would pay for Quine's medical care and move her to a women's prison after completion of the surgery. In a statement, the corrections department said that every medical expert who examined the case testified that "this surgery is medically necessary for Quine," according to  the Los Angeles Times.
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There was no legal ruling giving anyone rights/opening the door, it was a settlement. Then Cali issued guidelines that applied to all inmates in October

You are lying, period.
 
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RustyShackleford said:
There was no legal ruling giving anyone rights/opening the door, it was a settlement. Then Cali issued guidelines that applied to all inmates in October

You are lying, period.
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Not lying about anything, I didn't do any research on any court rulings or anything like that. What I do know is from going to work at the jail as the head nurse. But your clearly more knowledgeable on jail transgender reassignment surgeries from your line of work.
 
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HAWAII 5O said:
RustyShackleford said:
There was no legal ruling giving anyone rights/opening the door, it was a settlement. Then Cali issued guidelines that applied to all inmates in October

You are lying, period.
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You do know he's not lying right?
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How is he not lying?
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Your whole reason for thinking he was lying was because this thing just passed in Cali recently. Now that he showed you when he started working you constructed another reason why you think he's lying :lol: just let it go
 
OC jail only have 30 trannies?

At Cj there has to be like 300 smh , dat 9000 floor aint no joke

You deal with a lot of attention seekers, babies and ******* overall man. These dudes constantly complain and ***** but yet continue to keep coming back in the system.

i mean you run some of these dudes charges and youre like :wow: the high profile / k10 dudes are especially insane.

Then you have your pc / green lighters / snitches wants everything handed to them and when they get escorted theyre the ones who talk the most ****.

Times are changing in the jail esp with the whole mental health aspect really taking into affect, instead of these accused murderers / child molesters being locked up theyre being given opportunities to earn their ged's. Imagine a classroom of 288s are able to sit in a brand new class room with laptops being paid by who? US! ... I can go on and on
 
Man **** a pc hold. **** is the worst. Let you out with no damn clothes looking homeless trying to get you to snitch for three days straight.

Been a while but still pisses me off.
 
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heLiumcLinton said:
RustyShackleford said:
HAWAII 5O said:
RustyShackleford said:
There was no legal ruling giving anyone rights/opening the door, it was a settlement. Then Cali issued guidelines that applied to all inmates in October

You are lying, period.
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You do know he's not lying right?
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How is he not lying?
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Your whole reason for thinking he was lying was because this thing just passed in Cali recently. Now that he showed you when he started working you constructed another reason why you think he's lying :lol: just let it go
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How did I construct another reason why I think he is lying? Please explain this to me

I never disputed he didn't work in the jail, nor did I question when he started working there. Please show me where and when I did? I would love to see it famb. Is your only proof my meme in one page one, that I clarified that already before famb even responded to me with proof.

When I pressed him about the timeline not making sense, he said a court ruling having folk the got ahead to get them done. Problem is in a article he himself posted they contradict this claim, and I pointed out that it was a settlement not a ruling so a precedent was not set.

I'm just shutting down dude's comeback because they don't make sense, and most of the information out there about this contradicts his comments.

He wants to keep harping about stuff being FREE, TAXPAYER dollars, to drum up outrage. Then I'll keep harping about everything points to him lying.

Look at the top of this page, before he even provided me "proof" I said I wasn't disputing he worked there. And my first post clearly contradicts only his comment on the surgeries and not his employment. Sooooo.....
 
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DrKingSchultz said:
An Altercation resulting in the loss of life, he got sentenced to more years then he had been alive. Never saw his 20s, he is a really peaceful humble guy to
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but someone else is no longer here because of his actions/reaction. What can you do.

He been in for a few years now, told me their are other people are in there doing 30+ for similar stories, he be out mid 40s. Life stress.

I think of him when I feel to complain about my life, then stop.

Such a waste of time and life.

Here's a story he told me..
 
One guy that my brother made friends with in there, was at work one day, while his 5 month pregnant wife is at home, playing housewife when a group of armed home invaders broke into their home. they proceeded to beat, tie up and rape the pregnant wife, she looses the baby as a result later in hospital. They made off with $40k's worth of items and the wife's car.

A neighbour finds the wife tied up and bloody, rings the police and an ambulance.

The husband is alerted of the death of his unborn child and that the wife is in real bad way in the hospital along with the events that led up to this, he rushes to the hospital, sees his badly beaten wife, she can't even look him in the eyes anymore or speak of what has happened to her, she just cries out in pain.

Needless to say, the dude ends up going the law abiding citizen route, turns savage.. Manages to track down one of the guys responsible within a few weeks of what has occurred, he strikes the guy with his fist and floors him, he then proceeds to mount him ufc style and pummel the mans face into the concrete floor, until he doesn't have the energy to lift up his arms anymore, the bystanders watching call police, the husband is took into custody, the rapist is took to hospital, he ends up in intensive care for a month, essentially a brain dead vegetable, they make the choice to switch the life support machine off.

The case goes to trial and the husband if found guilty of a M charge to serve a minimum of 18 years before they will even think of letting him go. The other thieves/rapist's responsible, were never caught.
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This is why the whole legal/justice system needs to be torn down and rebuilt, by real men.

Not technical law bookworms.
 
DrKingSchultz said:
An Altercation resulting in the loss of life, he got sentenced to more years then he had been alive. Never saw his 20s, he is a really peaceful humble guy to
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but someone else is no longer here because of his actions/reaction. What can you do.

He been in for a few years now, told me their are other people are in there doing 30+ for similar stories, he be out mid 40s. Life stress.

I think of him when I feel to complain about my life, then stop.

Such a waste of time and life.

Here's a story he told me..
 
One guy that my brother made friends with in there, was at work one day, while his 5 month pregnant wife is at home, playing housewife when a group of armed home invaders broke into their home. they proceeded to beat, tie up and rape the pregnant wife, she looses the baby as a result later in hospital. They made off with $40k's worth of items and the wife's car.

A neighbour finds the wife tied up and bloody, rings the police and an ambulance.

The husband is alerted of the death of his unborn child and that the wife is in real bad way in the hospital along with the events that led up to this, he rushes to the hospital, sees his badly beaten wife, she can't even look him in the eyes anymore or speak of what has happened to her, she just cries out in pain.

Needless to say, the dude ends up going the law abiding citizen route, turns savage.. Manages to track down one of the guys responsible within a few weeks of what has occurred, he strikes the guy with his fist and floors him, he then proceeds to mount him ufc style and pummel the mans face into the concrete floor, until he doesn't have the energy to lift up his arms anymore, the bystanders watching call the police, the husband is took into custody and the rapist is rushed to hospital, he ends up in intensive care for a few months, but is essentially a brain dead vegetable, the family make the decision to switch off the life support machine.

The case goes to trial and the husband is found guilty of a M charge to serve a minimum of 16/18 I can't remember which years before they will even think of letting him go. The other thieves/rapist's responsible, were never caught or punished for their crimes.
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I feel you about your brother. My job was to interview parole eligible inmates and determine whether or not they are "ready" to be given a chance to serve the rest of their bid on the streets and then facilitate the hearings. So if your bro has any questions about parole, send them my way. I know many of the criminal justice administrators within prisons are hard to access and/or don't give a f***.

In regards to that story, crazy. The way sentences are handled is absolutely mind boggling. I've seen it all. Inmate "A" gets in a drunken accident and kills two of their passengers and gets 2 years. Inmate "B" accepts a package from PR containing X amount of cocaine and gets 10-20. That's real life.
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You would think with all those mitigating factors in the story you described, the dude at most would get a few years or at least have a very solid grounds for mental hospitalization vs. incarceration.
 
I got a second cousin I grew up with is eligible for parole in 27. He got sentenced at 18 for murder.
 
That story was real sad. I probably would've done worse things in that situation.

Not sure what you mean by real men should rebuild the justice system. We just need more logic and justice. Might also help if the laws were consistent in every state but that's a federal law versus state law power struggle thing.
 
There is no justice. It's just a trap. You got guys doing 15 years for an ounce of white and child molesters have to do a year and get on some registry. Give me a break. Then you get out and you're on papers for years if you don't execute your sentence just ready to have them throw you back in if you slip up. Oh you left the state for a funeral? 18 more months.
 
MPLSdunk said:
There is no justice. It's just a trap. You got guys doing 15 years for an ounce of white and child molesters have to do a year and get on some registry. Give me a break. Then you get out and you're on papers for years if you don't execute your sentence just ready to have them throw you back in if you slip up. Oh you left the state for a funeral? 18 more months.
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Actually all the parole officers I worked with are cool as hell. We used to give parolees MAD chances and actually help them get jobs, housing, health insurance, drug treatment, mental health counseling, family reunification, etc.

All the rules are also clearly stated before the inmate even walks out the prison gates, so he/she knows exactly what they're getting into with Parole and what they can/cannot do.
 
Pdino you better erase that. Youre gonna be the first cat on here with a respectable job that got fired for posting stuff that should remain confidential.
 
^^^ Famb real talk, this is like the 5th thread you have entered having a problem with something I post.

Just block me already, jeez :rofl:

Gassed off E-reps? I guess the go outside thing backfired on you because you weren't smart enough to realize you post on NT more than me, so now this is you new attack.

Please PM Anton so he can teach you how to rustle properly, you're embarrassing yourself outchea :lol:
 
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I'm sure there are some guys who care. But overall our system is evil. I realize part of it is on the offender but all it does is makes you worse every trip back. I really don't feel it's intentions are rehabilitation when possible. Some prosecutors really are evil too.
 
sugafree said:
This is why the whole legal/justice system needs to be torn down and rebuilt, by real men.
Not technical law bookworms.
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GetBack said:
I feel you about your brother. My job was to interview parole eligible inmates and determine whether or not they are "ready" to be given a chance to serve the rest of their bid on the streets and then facilitate the hearings. So if your bro has any questions about parole, send them my way. I know many of the criminal justice administrators within prisons are hard to access and/or don't give a f***.

In regards to that story, crazy. The way sentences are handled is absolutely mind boggling. I've seen it all. Inmate "A" gets in a drunken accident and kills two of their passengers and gets 2 years. Inmate "B" accepts a package from PR containing X amount of cocaine and gets 10-20. That's real life. :lol:

You would think with all those mitigating factors in the story you described, the dude at most would get a few years or at least have a very solid grounds for mental hospitalization vs. incarceration.
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Yeah they definitely took that into account the aggravating circumstances, but they said it was pre meditated, that he went to great lengths, to hunt down the "victim" after the event and take the law into his own hands, and in his quest of rage and revenge his intent was to kill him, he did not stop hitting the guy, he continued on and on when the man was down and unconscious on the floor, the law is the law. Resulting in the guys life support machine being switched off. He'd already been in there for 8-9 years when the little brother met him.

As for little brother I'll pass word onto him.

Funny you mention the narcotics, he said there is loads of people in there doing 15-20+ years for possession with intent, So It's all bad and sad, stay safe, stay away from trouble as best you can, it's just not worth it at the end of the day.
 
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