UPDATE 1/12 Campbell's soup drops same sex couple + son commercial

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Why does a difference in opinion have to be labeled as bigotry though? Like if I say that I don't agree with homosexuality that automatically means I'm a bigot? Does anyone else see the irony here when looking at the definition of the word bigot?

Isnt that the point of all this? To be able to co exist peacefully while respecting others differences? If you think everyone is going to think the same or always agree on everything you're delusional. It's part of living in a diverse society. Why are concepts being seemingly forced on people who will never accept that stance by people who are claiming to be so accepting of differences? Does anyone else see this?
 
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DCAllAmerican said:
So Steezy, serious question. If your son acted LIKE magics son , you wouldn't be embarrassed as a father? I am strictly speaking of how he carries himself
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At some point, the following becomes true in many cases:

Sexuality is the shield, while personality is the problem.
 
doublemesh96 said:
Why does a difference in opinion have to be labeled as bigotry though? Like if I say that I don't agree with homosexuality that automatically means I'm a bigot? Does anyone else see the irony here when looking at the definition of the word bigot?
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The problem is we are past the point of agreeing or disagreeing with sexuality.
Sexuality just is. If you haven't accepted that at this point, you making life harder than it needs to be.

Like what are you agreeing/disagreeing with?
 
Yea you can't AGREE with something that exists. I mean it is there. It isn't like a fat white man with a beard sitting in the sky that sends his magical son to Earth to walk on rivers 
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doublemesh96 said:
Why does a difference in opinion have to be labeled as bigotry though? Like if I say that I don't agree with homosexuality that automatically means I'm a bigot? Does anyone else see the irony here when looking at the definition of the word bigot?
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White, male conservatives have been trying to play victim for years.  "Oh, poor us.  We're losing jobs to women and minorities because of affirmative action!  Oh, so you can say Black Power or Girl Power but if I say White Power or Man Power I'm a racist or a sexist?  You people are hypocrites!  We're the ones who are REALLY oppressed these days!!"  

Can you not see how this whole attempt to claim victim status due to the diminishing popularity of a prejudice against LGBTQA people feels incredibly vulgar? 

What separates your "opinion" on sexuality from that of the misogynist who believes that men are "naturally superior" to women?  Just a harmless opinion, right? 

To me, there are two key battlegrounds here.

One is about public space:  some people are trying to present their "opinons" as a conflict between their right to feel "comfortable" in public vs. the right of LGBTQA citizens to feel comfortable.  

In other words, should same sex couples have to "tone it down" and "keep it in the bedroom," or should you stow your personal/religious views and keep THAT to yourself in the public sphere? 

I mean, why do you have to be so EXTRA with your bigotry?  Why force it on us?  Why can't you just keep that in the privacy of your own home?  

The other issue is, quite plainly, male privilege.  It's about defending "masculinity" and how that's defined so as to maintain gender privilege and identity.  

That's where a lot of the tin foil hat "gay agenda" nonsense seems to fit in.  Like it's all some nefarious plot to emasculate society and take away their masculine, penile virility as a source of power.  
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doublemesh96 said:
Why does a difference in opinion have to be labeled as bigotry though? Like if I say that I don't agree with homosexuality that automatically means I'm a bigot? Does anyone else see the irony here when looking at the definition of the word bigot?
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If dudes were literally just saying I don't agree with homosexuality and not saying anything else no you wouldn't be called a bigot.

Thing is that's not what's happening.
 
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That troll Bill O'Reilly is probably the worst with that along with Limbaugh. This dude legitimately said that it's "open season" on Christian white men in the country during the summer in the middle of all the police shootings :rofl: :rofl: :smh:
 
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DCAllAmerican said:
So Steezy, serious question. If your son acted LIKE magics son , you wouldn't be embarrassed as a father? I am strictly speaking of how he carries himself
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That's different then saying I wouldn't be embarrassed if my son is gay

I would be embarrassed if my son dressed like Magic's son, he can't dress :lol:
 
I don't have a problem with anyone's sexuality. It's literally irrelevant to me. I have a problem with flamboyant clowns and attention ****** and I reserve the right to that opinion just as they reserve the right to dress and act as annoyingly as they want.
 
To be honest...I'd be embarrassed if my son dressed like some of the dudes in the DB thread.

You just can't go around calling everyone a bigot.
 
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That troll Bill O'Reilly is probably the worst with that along with Limbaugh. This dude legitimately said that it's "open season" on Christian white men in the country during the summer in the middle of all the police shootings
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If unearned privilege is your "normal" and the way you've always known things to be, any challenge to or diminution of that privilege comes across as an "assault."  

There's a reason why many of these same people are often bleating about the "war on Christmas."  Inherent in that argument is this entitled assumption that the entire public realm belongs exclusively to them and people like them, because that's just "how things are."  

They don't stop to think about what it's like to live on the other side of that.  
I don't have a problem with anyone's sexuality. It's literally irrelevant to me. I have a problem with flamboyant clowns and attention ****** and I reserve the right to that opinion just as they reserve the right to dress and act as annoyingly as they want.
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If it were really an opinion on par with "I feel a certain type of way about guys wearing Ed Hardy t-shirts and cargo shorts," that would be one thing - but in practice it comes across quite differently.

Think about how people frame their criticism of "urban" fashion, for example, or the way many people tend to take instances of teenage obnoxiousness and racialize that commenting on Worldstar types of videos - and even in the conscious or subconscious process of determining what "offenses" are worthy of public comment.  The criticism is selective, and thus the whole fashion/manners thing reveals itself as a pretense.

If it were just about people dressing poorly, that would transcend all other categories.  You'd probably be talking about Michael Jordan's denim in the same breath as you would about Magic Johnson's son's fashion choices.  In practice, that's not what typically happens.

Criticism is reserved for people who dress or act in ways that challenge gender norms, and that's what gets trashed.  Like Jan Vesely can make out with his girlfriend on draft night and people will congratulate him for it the next day, but when Michael Sam does essentially the same thing suddenly he's crossed the line.  

Would you criticize a woman for dressing the same way that Earvin Johnson III does - or does the criticism of EJ stem from a perceived challenge to gender norms?  

That, to me, is what it seems like a lot of this is really about.  Some people are just really threatened by any perceived  "challenge" to masculinity.  
 
doublemesh96 said:
Does anyone else see the irony here when looking at the definition of the word bigot?
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The irony is deafening. As evidenced by the paragraphs upon paragraphs you got in response and not a single intelligent comment to that end.


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If dudes were literally just saying I don't agree with homosexuality and not saying anything else no you wouldn't be called a bigot.
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WRONG!


I knew it was only a matter of time before meth came in here putting quotations around statements no one in here ever said lol. Classic meth. It's much easier to win your arguments and sound intelligent when you manufacture both sides of the debate. Rustled jimmies will have you talking to yourself I guess. Rustled him real good I'd imagine.
 
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heLiumcLinton said:
because MJDenim are genuine jokes not created out of malice
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That isn't the point. People find #MJDenim to be DISGUSTING.

Just as they do with how Magic's son dresses/acts.

They only "joke" about MJ because it is acceptable and wouldn't get them banned
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They joke about MJ because it's funny not because it's disgusting to them

But sure bro whatever you say
 
heLiumcLinton said:
They joke about MJ because it's funny not because it's disgusting to them

But sure bro whatever you say
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People think he looks like a got damn fool. People think #MJDemin looks DUMB, STUPID, UGLY. aKa it is disgusting.

They damn sure don't joke about it because it looks appealing. 
 
DCAllAmerican said:
That isn't the point. People find #MJDenim to be DISGUSTING.

Just as they do with how Magic's son dresses/acts.

They only "joke" about MJ because it is acceptable and wouldn't get them banned
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No he's 100% right mjdenim is disgusting I wouldn't allow it in my house.
 
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Anybody can get it within my discretion. I personally have limits but that's my choice. I don't support hate speech or inciting violence.

If you don't like it, you don't like it.
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I am of the belief, "ANYONE" can get it.

Like are we really going to say certain folks are cool to get the jokes but others aren't?

We can fire up fat people.

Or Crackheads

But other folks are off limits?

I don't get it
 
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