UPDATE 1/12 Campbell's soup drops same sex couple + son commercial

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ksteezy said:
Love is love....if anything from my own personal experience gay relationships love harder than most heterosexual ones I've known....that is from MY personal experience.
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Please explain this.

1. How do you gauge love levels for you to say gays love harder than heterosexuals (In your experience). Like, what does "Love Harder" even LOOK like. (Describe actual behavior traits)

2. You also know that there is like a 500/1 ratio of your hetero/gay relationship exposure for you to even MAKE a comparison like that.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
Please explain this.

1. How do you gauge love levels for you to say gays love harder than heterosexuals (In your experience). Like, what does "Love Harder" even LOOK like. (Describe actual behavior traits)

2. You also know that there is like a 500/1 ratio of your hetero/gay relationship exposure for you to even MAKE a comparison like that.
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Gay Supremacist
 
ksteezy said:
I'm not arguing that, I don't laught at his sexual preference, I laugh at the way he dresses, who wouldn't?...the same way i laugh at a fat chick trying to fit into a size 0 jeans.
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But the people that like throwing around the BIGOT word don't know that someone is laughing at HIM and NOT his sexual preference Steezy
 
DCAllAmerican said:
You are still talking about Whites doing Black Face. I am off of that. We all know that was done in a hurtful manner, sure it was meant to be a joke but it was from a place of hatred.

That isn't my point. Don't focus on THAT. We are on the same page with THAT.

I am saying that NOW, there is no need for anyone to do ANY form of ____FACE. (Red, Yellow, Black, White).

That is off limits
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I'm just saying that the gay jokes come so frequently (swear I always read about "zest" in random threads) and the fact that you have folks who disagree with it, sometimes the jokes coming from them, well, that appears to be a problem with gays on this site.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
Please explain this.

1. How do you gauge love levels for you to say gays love harder than heterosexuals (In your experience). Like, what does "Love Harder" even LOOK like. (Describe actual behavior traits)

2. You also know that there is like a 500/1 ratio of your hetero/gay relationship exposure for you to even MAKE a comparison like that.
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It looks like faithfulness, respect, longevity....that's what hard love looks like....is really not that hard to notice
 
ksteezy said:
It looks like faithfulness, respect, longevity....that's what hard love looks like....is really not that hard to notice
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What do those things LOOK like Steezy. Describe what the actual behaviors LOOK like Steezy.

Because it appears to me that you WANT to see those things and we know how the human mind works. If you want to see something, you WILL see it.

So again I ask, how does homosexual love seem more genuine (or whatever words you used) than hetero love.

I am NOT trying to argue, I am simply asking what makes you make such a statement
 
DCAllAmerican said:
ksteezy said:
I'm not arguing that, I don't laught at his sexual preference, I laugh at the way he dresses, who wouldn't?...the same way i laugh at a fat chick trying to fit into a size 0 jeans.
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But the people that like throwing around the BIGOT word don't know that someone is laughing at HIM and NOT his sexual preference Steezy
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when bigots use sexual preferences in their jokes it's very easy to know that

no one calls anyone a bigot for just laughing at how Magic's son dresses

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DCAllAmerican said:
What do those things LOOK like Steezy. Describe what the actual behaviors LOOK like Steezy.

Because it appears to me that you WANT to see those things and we know how the human mind works. If you want to see something, you WILL see it.

So again I ask, how does homosexual love seem more genuine (or whatever words you used) than hetero love.

I am NOT trying to argue, I am simply asking what makes you make such a statement
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From MY personal experience, meaning my friends relationships gay and hetero alike, the hetero relationships have crumbled, my boys have openly cheated, disrespected their sig other and abused....same for some of the girls I know have done their man dirty EASILY....NONE of the gay couples I know personally have displayed this behavior, they are 100% devoted to each other, call it what you want...is that clear enough for you?

Once again I started this statement with "my own personal experience" not to be taken for a fact.
 
ksteezy said:
From MY personal experience, meaning my friends relationships gay and hetero alike, the hetero relationships have crumbled, my boys have openly cheated, disrespected their sig other and abused....same for some of the girls I know have done their man dirty EASILY....NONE of the gay couples I know personally have displayed this behavior, they are 100% devoted to each other, call it what you want...is that clear enough for you?

Once again I started this statement with "my own personal experience" not to be taken for a fact.
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You saying, "From my personal experience" doesn't EXPLAIN anything KSteezy.

And again, you are ignoring the sample size. As I said, your hetero/gay relationship exposure is probably 200/1, so the few that you know of is enough for you to say, "They love harder."
 
1. But Meth, I specifically said White Chicks shouldn't have been allowed to have been done. White Face is just as bad as black face.
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JUST AS BAD?  This is where I can't even tell if you're being serious because you've cried "wolf" so many damned times that your credibility is shot.  If you're just playing devil's advocate, engaging you is a waste of time.  

How can the same person say "White face is just as bad as Black face" and then "but don't compare gay rights to the struggle for racial equality."  

That doesn't compute. 

You realize that, in saying "either everything's okay or nothing's okay," you're now taking the exact OPPOSITE opinion on this as you were with Beadle.  If "everything's okay," then she had the right to parade around in black face for Halloween.  If "nothing's okay," then attacking a man for wearing "feminine" clothing isn't cool.  

EJ may wear "size 16 chancletas," but this is a much bigger flip flop.  

Compare all the negative "jokes" about people of color with all the negative jokes about White people.  You're putting things about criminality, propensity to rape, intelligence, and stereotypes that cut to the core of someone's very humanity on the same exact plane as "has no rhythm" and "can't jump."  It's fine to say, "there's no reason why racial humor should be negative.  If you want to make fun of race, make fun of the absurdity of racism to undermine it, don't make fun of racial stereotypes to perpetuate or bolster it."  That's totally valid, and you'd be in great company on that front.  Richard Pryor famously amended his act after a 1979 visit to Africa.  Amy Schumer has apologized for making racist jokes and has supposedly vowed to be more considerate (and creative) moving forward.  

I would respect that position a hell of a lot more than "well... the black face thing was bad... and so is white face, really... but we should be able to make fun of gay people if they're really flamboyant about it."  
That AGENDA is to grab another group of individuals. These are major companies, they are all about making money man. I don't look to them as promoting diversity or tolerance. They don't give a damn about that
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Again, I didn't see the tin foil fitted crowd in here popping off about the "interracial agenda" trying to annihilate the great races when the Cheerios spot aired.  Racists were up in their feelings about it for certain, but I wasn't seeing that on here, and I certainly wasn't seeing anything on here about some conspiratorial "agenda" on that occasion.  

Companies latch on to things that have social currency, like "going green."  You can say they're insincere and that it's dangerous to allow companies to co-opt social movements and that's valid - but they're not the ones driving this in the same way that Cheerios isn't leading the charge on racial justice.  

When people talk about the need for greater diversity in the media in general, the issue there is real.  It's not a "fake issue" just because it's been co-opted by companies trying to appeal to young consumers and broaden their market. 
 
DCAllAmerican said:
You saying, "From my personal experience" doesn't EXPLAIN anything KSteezy.

And again, you are ignoring the sample size. As I said, your hetero/gay relationship exposure is probably 200/1, so the few that you know of is enough for you to say, "They love harder."
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The hell you know what my ratio is like...I'm talking about relationships I personally know....I can easily know more gay couples than straight one :lol:
 
@Methodical Management   Dude read what I said man. I am not talking about it being the same in terms of HISTORY. I am saying neither one should be done in 2015. Both are super offensive. Nobody should be painting their faces as another race.

Keep up with the thread, I already responded to the, "They are the same" confusion

Save the paragraphs
 
ksteezy said:
The hell you know what my ratio is like...I'm talking about relationships I personally know....I can easily know more gay couples than straight one
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Ok dude...
 
ksteezy said:
From MY personal experience, meaning my friends relationships gay and hetero alike, the hetero relationships have crumbled, my boys have openly cheated, disrespected their sig other and abused....same for some of the girls I know have done their man dirty EASILY....NONE of the gay couples I know personally have displayed this behavior, they are 100% devoted to each other, call it what you want...is that clear enough for you?

Once again I started this statement with "my own personal experience" not to be taken for a fact.
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Touch on an interesting point. I ain't want to start airing cats out but...


It's ******* funny to me, so many of the usual suspects in this thread, same cats that go around parading around their adultery as a badge of honor. Talmbout sex trips to brothels and STDs they've gotten and ****. ****** basically openly proud of supporting human trafficking. Scumbags galore and ****.


But they're so worried about gay people and how they're "infiltrating the media and sending the wrong messages" and ****, when they're not living right at all.


Cats have the audacity to sit there with a straight face and say a "man is supposed to be with a woman, as God intended" but then be far more sexual deviant and morally bankrupt in nature than most gay folks I know. They got their kids growing up and watching them treat women like ****, and then want to talk about how it's confusing for a child to be raised by two men (or two women).


That is some convoluted *** **** b. Some of ya'll need to take a long hard look in the mirror before judging others. IF any of ya'll feel like this post was throwing shots at you in particular, it probably is. Ya'll know who ya'll are.
 
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Methodical Management said:
 
You realize that, in saying "either everything's okay or nothing's okay," you're now taking the exact OPPOSITE opinion on this as you were with Beadle.  If "everything's okay," then she had the right to parade around in black face for Halloween.  If "nothing's okay," then attacking a man for wearing "feminine" clothing isn't cool.  
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My issue with Beadle wasn't the fact that she DID it, my issue was her trying to hide it through the use of a makeup mask. And her playing STUPID about it as if she was unaware of what she was doing.

Nice try though
 
SneakerHeathen said:
Touch on an interesting point. I ain't want to start airing cats out but...


It's ******* funny to me, so many of the usual suspects in this thread, same cats that go around parading around their adultery as a badge of honor. Talmbout sex trips to brothels and STDs they've gotten and ****. ****** basically openly proud of supporting human trafficking. Scumbags galore and ****.


But they're so worried about gay people and how they're "infiltrating the media and sending the wrong messages" and ****, when they're not living right at all.


Cats have the audacity to sit there with a straight face and say a "man is supposed to be with a woman, as God intended" but then be far more sexual deviant and morally bankrupt in nature than most gay folks I know. They got their kids growing up and watching them treat women like ****, and then want to talk about how it's confusing for a child to be raised by two men (or two women).


That is some convoluted *** **** b. Some of ya'll need to take a long hard look in the mirror before judging others. IF any of ya'll feel like this post was throwing shots at you in particular, it probably is. Ya'll know who ya'll are.
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HIPOCRASY IS SKRONG ON NT
 
I'm legit waiting to see the usual suspects address SneakerHeathens post....wanna see how they even attempt to come back from that....

Aside from loving their mothers, daughters or sisters, most dudes can't even begin to dedicate themselves to loving another woman, ya can learn a thing or two from some of the gay men I've come across...
 
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ksteezy said:
I'm legit waiting to see the usual suspects address SneakerHeathens post....wanna see how they even attempt to come back from that....

Aside from loving their mothers, daughters or sisters, most dudes can't even begin to dedicate themselves to loving another woman, ya can learn a thing or two on some of the gay men I've come across...
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 @ You know what you are doing man. Stop it.
 
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