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DonRe said:
 
Primo, im going by what steezy stated when he said his personal experience. That is my personal experience and i didnt generalize, i said based off my experience which is substantial. But we cant just go by personal experience, its not fair for either side. 

But if my sample size of over hundreds of gay clients and my intensive work with them in projects, education, etc.., is void because it doesnt favor the "tolerance over fact" community then so be it. People are people is what im trying to convey and men are men. Lets not deem one group better than the rest. 
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Since you work at an HIV clinic your experience is generally limited to people who are very promiscuous, don't take care of their health, ...

I would assume a majority of HIV patients contract it due to being very promiscuous and not taking proper precautions to prevent it, correct me if I'm wrong.

HIV is without a doubt a problem in the gay community but you also have to account for what drives those people to those actions.

Depression is also a large problem in the gay community. Hypersexuality, lack of personal health, ... can be associated with depression.
 
"gay relationships love harder than most heterosexual ones I've known. that is from MY personal experience.

 

"its 2015 son....... You can't continue to reference the past (over half a decade ago) for the injustices of today.
I'm out of touch but you stuck in the 1950's"
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Since you work at an HIV clinic your experience is generally limited to people who are very promiscuous, don't take care of their health, ...
I would assume a majority of HIV patients contract it due to being very promiscuous and not taking proper precautions to prevent it, correct me if I'm wrong.
HIV is without a doubt a problem in the gay community but you also have to account for what drives those people to those actions.
Depression is also a large problem in the gay community. Hypersexuality, lack of personal health, ... can be associated with depression.
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That's really not fair to say.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
ksteezy said:
But that's based on how I view love in a huge part because of her :rofl:
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But explain to me what that has to do with gays being able to love harder than straight men.

You have yet to explain it other than saying, "My personal experience."
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Although I don't agree with him, I may be able to help ksteezy out here...

“He’s not perfect. You aren’t either, and the two of you will never be perfect. But if he can make you laugh at least once, causes you to think twice, and if he admits to being human and making mistakes, hold onto him and give him the most you can. He isn’t going to quote poetry, he’s not thinking about you every moment, but he will give you a part of him that he knows you could break. Don’t hurt him, don’t change him, and don’t expect for more than he can give. Don’t analyze. Smile when he makes you happy, yell when he makes you mad, and miss him when he’s not there. Love hard when there is love to be had. Because perfect guys don’t exist, but there’s always one guy that is perfect for you.”
― Bob Marley
 
Tr1ll said:
Ok I was referring more to the remaining faithful part.....you know, the part I quoted.
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I see this is a hard concept for you to grasp. @Hennessy originally asked "So remaining faithful to one person means your love is more pure or better than someone elses".

You replied yes. That reply...and every one of your replies since, are from a monogamous viewpoint.

From a LITERAL standpoint, a person can Indeed be in love with more than one person. Monogamy is NOT the defecto approach to love. That is all I'm saying.
 
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Tr1ll said:
Ok I was referring more to the remaining faithful part.....you know, the part I quoted.
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I see this is a hard concept for you to grasp. @Hennessy originally asked "So remaining faithful to one person means your love is more pure or better than someone elses".

You replied yes. That reply...and every one of your replies since, are from a monogamous viewpoint.

From a LITERAL standpoint, a person can Indeed be in love with more than one person. Monogamy is NOT the defecto approach to love. That is all I'm saying.
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oh aight
 
Hennessy said:
I am so offended by this "gays love harder" BS. So remaining faithful to one person means your love is more pure or better than someone elses? You have to be married to be truly in love? I have too much love to give. It would be selfish of me to give all that love to one person and rob others who are also deserving of my love.
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Let me break it down to you, if you are dishonest to the person you "love" willing to risk bringing pain to her/him YES YOU DONOT LOVE THAT PERSON....in most cases that means being faithful, if your girl agrees to an open relationship I guess that's cool...you aren't lying and both of you are on the same page about what love means to the both of you, if you have multiple wives, everyone is on the same page...the key to real love is honesty/transparency....wether is a 1:1 marriage/relationship, open one, or a polygamist one, but if you outchea hiding side chicks from your main chick, that's not love, i don't care what you say.
 
Explain how gay people love harder.

maybe im the only one here that thinks this but loving a person or the hardness of the love has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
 
DonRe said:
 Famlay i work at HIV clinic here in NYC. Been here 3 yrs.

The majority of patients are gay and they have to be the most reckless, promiscuous, dont-give-a-bleep about there health or their partners health, group of people i have ever dealt with. 

Look up the concept of "gift-giving" in the gay community. TV got ya mind washed about the honky dory gay community. Not all of course are like this but lets just say based on my experiences with the gay community, i have reason to doubt this concept of that they are monogomous and amazing people. They are men remember that. 
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So based on your personal experience you came to THAT conclusion? I respect it bro....my experience has taught me the opposite, I believe we are both right in what we've been exposed to.
 
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Explain how gay people love harder.

maybe im the only one here that thinks this but loving a person or the hardness of the love has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
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I explained it like a thousand times fam, case in point dudes in here giving themselves passes for continuously lying and cheating on their GFs/wives, waving it like a badge of honor and truly believing they know love...lol, being married is not the end to it all, but it does gauge how far you are willing to commit to someone, to us as heterosexuals marriage is a joke tho, most don't even believe in it, those that do treat it as a joke anyways based on the increasingly high divorce rates...gays fought for a right to union, legit marched, protested, bled for it, and the divorced rate between them is actually lowered than ours and their marriage rates higher, fam you have more gay people getting married, than straight...lol

Here between us the rebuttal will be "who says you have to be married to be fully in love/committed" :lol:

I'll answer that before it gets asked, YOU DONT....you can be fully committed to someone for years and be in love, however we already have two NTers that openly and proudly admitted to being committed and cheating, ya believe that's love?...slip up one time, hey that's ok we are human and make mistakes, but constantly without remorse? "I cheated on all my GFs including my current one" you think that's LOVE? I wish most would have the balls to be honest and tell it how it is " I don't believe in marriage because the exit door is there without a fight, my assets are not compromised in case, I'm not making a fool of myself by makin a false promise in front of everyone, etc"

Inb4 "is just a paper, I don't need the government up in my business"
 
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I see what youre saying steezy but i 100 % respectfully disagree.

Its an individual by individual thing imo.
 
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I dont think any one group of people can love harder (has to be a better term lol) than another.

Its a an individual by individual basis.

Just because someone doesnt show it outwardly doesnt mean its not there.
Still waters run deep primo
 
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I would love to hear you guys definition of love and how that fits your significant other, the concept of love goes hand in hand with selflessness and transparency....the second you can go your life with a woman or man without sneaking around with others, the second you are willing to put that person above else even yourself...that to me is love....crazy me and my wife joke often about this, "we ask ourselves, when we have kids will we love them more?" And we truly believe we will always love each other more and in return this will teach our kids true love and a happy home.

Back to homosexuals, from my experience, their love towards each other is more transparent/honest than that of the straight couples I know..
 
Who are the people that are claiming cheating like its a badge of honor and giving themselves passes?
Name names, papi.

You can't keep imposing YOUR views about marriage on other people. That's the type of **** that makes me want to report you.
Now you arguing about marriage and why people should get married. This is a different argument than gay people love HARDER.


I find it hard to believe that more gay people are getting married than straight people. I don't even have to look up the numbers to know that this just isn't true.
 
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