UPDATE 1/12 Campbell's soup drops same sex couple + son commercial
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Is not about showing love, is about not being dishonest to the one you supposedly love....I'm not gauging love by Instagram posts, public kisses or 10000 roses....lol
Dude in here said "he cheated on every gf he's ever had" is that love?
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I think the point Steezy is trying to convey is that in his experience, gays tend to place a higher value on marriage because it's a relatively new right for them.
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How do you...you specifically. ...know how much another random person loves someone loool.
Like how is that physically possible sobrino?
Do u have sum ****** x men power lol
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Last few pages: Steezy said something kinda silly, refuses to take the L and everyones just pouring salt into the wound.
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I'll say it again, if your relationship is full of lies and deceit, how is THAT love?...one of the parties involved is in love with a fabricated individual.....if the truth leaks will it hurt?...is the person willingly lying aware that it will hurt the other person?...VERY MUCH HE/SHE IS....so is that love?....I don't need a super power to tell someone/friend who's dishonest/cheats constantly that perhaps he might not be in love...
Infatuation, settling, a routine can often times be confused with love.
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I don't believe that's the case...lmao
No one has yet to actually challenged what I said with legit common sense.
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That has nothing to do with the big picture point im trying to make but u think gay people dont cheat lol.
U think they dont have side dudes
Straight people cheat....gay people cheat....
Wat im trying to understand is this plain and simple
You think the gay community loves harder in relationships based on things youve seen right. But how do you know what people actually feel? There are no words or no actions that could convey how much i really love someone. Only i know that.
How do you know or not know that straight people cant love as hard or harder.
U think they dont have side dudes
Straight people cheat....gay people cheat....
Wat im trying to understand is this plain and simple
You think the gay community loves harder in relationships based on things youve seen right. But how do you know what people actually feel? There are no words or no actions that could convey how much i really love someone. Only i know that.
How do you know or not know that straight people cant love as hard or harder.
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We can always count on you, his personal cheerleader to keep score and let us all know.
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^Shhh. Let him keep going. It's a boring day at work this is passing the time.
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I didn't say gay people don't cheat
I clearly stated based on MY personal experience of the people around me, the gay relationships have been far more pure and honest than those of the straight ones around me! From the get go and go back to when I first made that post I said this is not to be taken as fact, I'm exclusively going off those around me I know personally....DC did what DC does, trolled, changed up what I said and has ya believing I made some claim about gays vs straights worldwide
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And I can't tell how much you love someone, but I can tell that if you hurt, deceit, disrespect that someone YOU DONOT LOVE HER/HIM.
Do you believe otherwise?
Do you believe otherwise?
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Youre putting battleships around your rowboat of an opinion.
I dont like draggin **** on but i guess we just dont see eye to eye on this particular opinion fam lol.
Its all love.
Not hard love tho.
Like that squishy deflated air max bubble love
I dont like draggin **** on but i guess we just dont see eye to eye on this particular opinion fam lol.
Its all love.
Not hard love tho.
Like that squishy deflated air max bubble love
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Posting this again. What Steezy said isn't even that outrageous.
He's just speaking from his experience, not sure why people are dragging this on for pages.
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Ksteezy, in your experience, do the gay couples you know "love harder" than you and your wife? Because we already know, in your experience, gays "love harder" than your married friends who cheat, and this is because, in your experience, you haven't seen or heard about your gay friends lying/cheating as much (at all?).
So I'm curious... would you say a monogamous, married, gay couple loves harder than you and your wife (who are allegedly, to your knowledge, faithful and honest with eachother)?
-If this is true, was it because they couldn't be married at one point, and now they can? What if the gay couple didn't fight for these rights and just laid in the cut until it was legal? They didn't have it hard or even care before so how can their love be harder?
-If this is not true, then why do you and your wife love harder than them?
So I'm curious... would you say a monogamous, married, gay couple loves harder than you and your wife (who are allegedly, to your knowledge, faithful and honest with eachother)?
-If this is true, was it because they couldn't be married at one point, and now they can? What if the gay couple didn't fight for these rights and just laid in the cut until it was legal? They didn't have it hard or even care before so how can their love be harder?
-If this is not true, then why do you and your wife love harder than them?
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Lmaooooo I didn't even have to go that far, peep this, FIRST REPLY and guess what?...I'm not even surprised....a man makes a thread about his engagement and how he Found the right one and literally the first reply is "countdown to divorce" and I'm sure he represents a wide portion of NT....so why we acting as if ya don't know the deal...cmon son.
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If marriage was new to us to we would take it more serious also. Gay people cheat all the time, in my personal experience I've heard it first hand. The ones u know could do all types of sneaky ****, just because u don't know u assume they love harder. Just drop this conversation everyone please cuz its not a legit argument at all. So flawed to even try to use that in any argument.
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You iphone must be hot. Joint stay at 15%
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I don't lie or deceit my wife, I never cheated on her in my adult life, been together since 17.
I see you guys are stuck on the words "love harder" and taking it for face value instead of the meaning behind it which is what I've explained plenty times.....if a love is transparent/genuine/respectful, wouldn't you quantify that as real love over one composed of cheating, deceit, lies?
Don't get so hung up on the "love harder" I said it time and time again....based on the numbers around me gay couples and straight couples, the gay couples appear to have far more honest relationships....
So to answer your question, if my relationship is transparent/honest/sincere/happy YES that quantifies as living harder than one that isn't....I don't know why that's a hard concept to accept.
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Falsely quoted? Calm down. The quote was sardonically attributed to "the tolerate my intolerance" crowd. Find me one person who actually thought I was attempting to directly quote any individual in our outside of this thread. "I'll wait."
You knowingly used a loaded term that hearkens back to a time when people were still classifying homosexuality as a mental illness, and the best you can do - after much chest thumping - is a political doublespeak sorry/not sorry "I will take responsibility for my part in muddying the waters" and a disingenuous claim that you didn't intend to use derogatory language.
You spent several posts justifying that very language and claiming that it was accurate. You refused to listen to anyone who claimed otherwise because it wasn't offensive "FOR YOU."
Remember this? "Homosexuality is born out of deviancy = factual statement. Perhaps you should look up the word deviant. Because you have some negative conotation attached to the word does not mean I am a bigot lol." Suddenly you're concerned about the impact of your words?
I won't ask what changed between now and then.
That's a pretty clear and immediate example of you willfully using hurtful and offensive language to describe everyone that doesn't fit into your preconceived notion of what's "natural" or "normal." And if people took umbrage at that, it was their fault.
How convenient! You as a member of the majority get to choose what LGBTQA people are allowed to take offense to!
Incidentally, it's not "factual" to suggest that homosexuality is "born out of deviancy." Deviance from what? Today, sexuality is regarded as a spectrum or a continuum - not a binary. If any male who's ever felt attraction to another male or engaged in some form of sexual contact with another male is "gay" by your definition, can you honestly say that at the dawn of humanity the "average," "normal" human could be considered, in crude terms, "100% straight?" If sexual stimulation is pleasurable, absent any social stigma who is to say that the "typical" person would never have stimulated themselves with others of the same sex? Without any data or supporting evidence whatsoever on which to base that claim, it seems a bit of a reach to call it "factual."
Isn't it more probable to suggest that monogamy was "born out of deviancy?" What are the odds that, again, in the absence of any social norms, the earliest human beings would each exclusively mate for life with the same partner? If monogamy is "deviant," then what of the "family values" argument that always seems to lurk in the background with these "I refuse to explain why, but I don't like homosexuality 'cause I don't like it" attitudes?
If you're going to cite "unnatural" and "deviant," you may as well object to every single commercial that's ever featured a monogamous couple on the same grounds.
Monogamy is a social experiment that we're all being conditioned to accept by the Zionist-controlled media! Run!
Go back to the Caitlyn Jenner thread, when you spent hours of your life INSISTING that transgender people are somehow "wrong" even though their sexuality has zero bearing on your life whatsoever. The same applies here. This thread's about a damned soup commercial, and you just HAD to make your "opinion" on that fictional couple's sexuality known. You couldn't keep it to yourself.
So, again, that's where the irony comes in.
If so much as seeing a soup commercial with a same sex commercial gets you up in your feelings, the obvious implication there is that you want them to "keep it in the bedroom," that Michael Sam kissing his boyfriend or Caitlyn Jenner existing grosses you out and you don't want the Gayluminati programming you to accept them.
Go feign outrage about how that's not what you said if you must, but it's plain as day. You take the "con" in these threads every time for a reason.
You know how the same characters always seem to show up in threads about racism and just happen to take the same position? They think Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown, Eric Garner and Freddie Gray were all criminals deserving of and responsible for their own deaths - but it's "not about race," right? They're just looking at the facts of each case. They have Black friends! They believe in equality! You can't PROVE that they're racist to their own satisfaction, therefore you're the REAL racist!
You know how you don't buy that crap? Well, look in the mirror. Nobody's buying it from you, either.
You say straight up, "I don't need to be programmed, brainwashed or any other form of forced learning is not necessary for me to understand that a penis going into a rectal cavity is not normal."
How in the hell is this commercial trying to sell you on anal sex? (A crusade we don't see you "caping for" with respect to heterosexual anal intercourse.)
Relationships are about more than just procreative intercourse. I don't see you posting nonsense about how "lips aren't supposed to be pressed against other lips" to decry same-sex kissing.
Let's just call it what it is. Men having intimate or romantic relationships with other men bothers you. You try to pretend that your objection is more intellectual than that, but you fail utterly at every single attempt to specify exactly HOW that is. It's just one flimsy pretense after another.
If you don't find gay sex appealing, fine. Don't be gay. Problem solved. That doesn't mean you have to go out of your way to shout from the mountaintops "YOU'RE A DEVIANT!"
You don't pull that nonsense with straight couples who engage in non-procreative sex. You don't go around bullying couples who are sterile, or couples who use birth control, or couples who don't exclusively engage in vaginal intercourse.
But two guys in a freaking soup commercial sure gets you going, doesn't it?
Yeah, but there's no bigotry there. Keep telling yourself that.
It's obvious from the positions you take. It's obvious from the language you use. It's obvious from what incites your anger.
You've said in plain English multiple times that you "disagree with it," but you don't stop there, do you?
If you don't personally consider gay sex appealing... don't have gay sex. It's worked for me.
For some odd reason, that's not enough for you. You are legitimately and obviously resentful of the "normalization and celebration of homosexuality." How that hurts you is anyone's guess.
Maybe that's just due to a backwards assumption that LGBTQA equality is an affluent White gay issue. You prop up the oppression of First Nations/American Indian populations as an example of "real oppression," (didn't catch you in the Columbus Day/Thanksgiving thread, by the way, though I'm sure you really care and aren't just wielding the cause as a bludgeon) like that's somehow in competition with LGBTQA equality - or that you can't be both Choctaw AND bisexual.
There are still places in this country in 2015 where same sex couples can't get married. There are still places in this country in 2015 where same sex couples can't buy cake. Heterosexist insults are commonplace. Suicide rates for gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender youth are several times more likely to attempt suicide. (Four times more likely, according to the CDC.)
These problems, to you, are "overstated."
Apparently we hear about these issues too often for your taste. You find it "odd that 3.5% of the population is represented so heavily all over primetime network tv, hollywood movies, campbells soup commercials, ect." As you can't figure out why anyone would care about LGBTQA perspectives or issues, such media representation can only be driven by some sort of nefarious cabal.
The good news is that, finally, we can now devote 50.8% of all media coverage to sexism and women's issues, since, in your mind, airtime is to be demographically allocated.
You've gone out of your way to call gay, lesbian, and transgender people "unnatural," "deviant," and "unhealthy."
If someone said the same sorts of things about interracial relationships, you'd call them on it - and you wouldn't take "I have Black friends" as an excuse.
You claim that you're sincerely willing to change your point of view, but you mock those whose views differ from yours and in all these months you've been "willing" to change you've seemingly done NOTHING to educate yourself on the issues.
If you can't be bothered to crack a book, perhaps you might deign to actually speak with one of those gay relatives you love so much and get their feedback on your "gay agenda" conspiracy theory. It's insulting. You don't start running off at the mouth about Hegelian dialectics when the media spares a minute to discuss police brutality, mass incarceration, or modern day lynchings. You're capable of recognizing that media attention as legitimate and not - as the SWS crowd believes - "overstated."
If it has anything to do with gay or transgender people though, the only explanation you can muster is that ancient aliens/free masons/the illuminati/reverse vampires are manipulating the public into accepting gender fluidity for the purpose of population control.
And if you want to talk about "unprovoked and unjustified," go back to when you replied to a post that didn't even mention you with a pack of petty insults and some infantile gobbledy**** about "jimmy rustling."
You're as transparent as you are transphobic.
I hope you realize you just described yourself.
It's one thing to be "rustled" by bigotry. It's another to be rustled by a soup ad because it features a "non-traditional" family.
I know which category I'd rather find myself in.
I wish you would actually listen to yourself. That comment just REEKS of privilege.
That's like blaming feminism for the persistence of sexism because sexist men find it threatening, and would greatly prefer to dole out gender equality when it suits them, provided that women ask nicely enough.
I'm sorry. You need to be coddled and placated until you're good and ready to change your mind. That's how progress happens, right? It's like equality is a hostage, so everyone who cares about it had better make you happy OR ELSE.
Did it ever occur to you that your attitude is divisive, and that the struggles of the LGBTQA community will continue as long as people like you insist on alienating and belittling any and everyone who has a differing opinion?
If everyone in our society felt that LGBTQA citizens were deserving of equality, it would be a fait accompli. If millions of people in our society felt as you do, we'd have backlash every time two men kiss on television - which, I hate to break it to you, is not indicative of a society that accepts gay men as equals.
So, whose attitude is really responsible for the perpetuation of inequality?
Campbell's has an ad with two men? There's Frank Matthews vexed about the gayluminati and their conspiratorial agenda! There's an incident at a high school in Hillsboro involving a transgender student? There's Frank Matthews to blame the transgender student! Man getting butt implants? There's Frank Matthews, obviously upset about a man in a dress!
The Supreme Court rules in favor of same sex marriage? What classy comment does Frank Matthews have in honor of an event that he clearly supports as someone who's totally pro love and anti-discrimination? "Gay marraige circle jerk going on in here? All the regulars I see. "I know everything so I don't need to hear anything from anyone unless it's something I already said." Always loved it when people do that. The ol "i'm right and you're wrong cause I said so" routine. By all means, resume the "intellectual" conversation, its says so much about you."
Oh, was that last bit an actual quote - or a ridiculous and fraudulent "fake quote," the sort you're suddenly so outraged by?
And then there's your antics in the Caitlyn Jenner thread. That's going back to what, this summer?
Face it: you are to these threads what the SWS crowd is to race threads. You're only fooling yourself. And if you ACTUALLY cared about challenging your biases, you'd make an ACTIVE effort to read and learn outside of your comfort zone. You wouldn't sit up here like an entitled little prince demanding that everyone prove to your satisfaction that LGBTQA people are PEOPLE deserving of your respect and not "deviant," "unnatural," or "unhealthy."
As for the ad hominem nonsense about my being a "one trick pony," you've been happy to ride that pony for years and years in all the race threads.
Fact is, you didn't have a negative word to say about me until I called you on an "unhealthy" prejudice that you yourself are admittedly having second thoughts about - so you can keep that.
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