UPDATE 1/12 Campbell's soup drops same sex couple + son commercial

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y'all understand that homosexuals are still humans and have been doing homosexual acts long before major religion came around right....? amazes me how people can not approve of homosexuals for being deviants but can name more pornstars than books in the bible...

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In 1964, an Egyptian tomb from 2400 B.C. was discovered in the necropolis at Saqqara, Egypt. It belonged to Niankhkhnum and Khnumhotep, two men who had worked as royal manicurists in the palace of the king. The artwork decorating their tomb is believed to be some of the earliest portrayals of homosexual love, with pictures of the men holding hands, embracing, and even kissing.

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This ancient Roman coin, called a “spintria“, is from 22-37 A.D. and depicts a man with an erect penis lying on his belly while another man penetrates him behind. The two lovers stare passionately into one another’s eyes. Spintria were small bronze or brass tokens that typically featured sexy pictures and were used to pay prostitutes. We’re pretty sure a coin like this wouldn’t fly today.

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illmatic34 said:
How is racism or homophobia OK again?
You got mad last thread at me calling you a bigot, well here's more evidence you are. The end of times is coming because of mainstream acceptance of homosexuality. If that doesn't seem more ****** up than anything, well, I gots something to tell you fam.
Jesus isn't real.
You sound like a delusional Christian fundamentalist.
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Lol here you go with this putting words in my mouth ****.

I never said **** about homosexuality being the cause of the "end days". It was a ******* reply to the person that said people have been saying that for 1000 years.

But don't let facts get in the way of oppurtunity to spew ********
 
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So is that child hateful for wishing he grew up with a mom and dad just like a kid who grew up in a single family home or orphanage does? Or does it make them ungrateful for not being happy with 2 dad's?

Not really far fetched, but a real conversation lgbtq couples wanting to start family need to have.

You're gonna cause more problems with that approach.
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I'm lost

How is a child with one parent or no parents wishing they had a parent being used to compare mentalities with a child that already has two parents?
 
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Lol here you go with this putting words in my mouth ****.

I never said **** about homosexuality being the cause of the "end days". It was a ******* reply to the person that said people have been saying that for 1000 years.

But don't let facts get in the way of oppurtunity to spew ********
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You're in this thread not defending homosexuality. You were in the last thread not defending homosexuality. So what exactly are you here for? Trying to bring up the fact that homosexuality is up to multiple factors? As if your BS wasn't disproved last thread?


You tell me, why would someone be pleased with messing with the same sex they were raped by. Let me know champ.
 
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sn00pee said:
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It's an unnecessary conversation to have with a kid at 1-8 years old...
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i doubt you'd be having this conversation with any child under 3.
And its not unnecessary if the child wants to know, just do your part and education em.
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i agree with all of this.

on a more general note, i do wonder what are the implications of not having a dad or mom, with regards to child psychology. and that is an honest question, not trying to be ignorant, and it takes a village to raise a child anyways. but for the same reason why a child needs a father to be there for them (not to say its impossible for a single mom to raise a child, plenty do) i would say is the same reason you'd want a mother figure in said child's life. I'm sure a psychologist or pediatrician can chime in on this better tho.


as for the commercial....i think there are more controversial things on the news i'd be more concerned about than gay parents and soup. just me tho...
 
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sn00pee said:
 
FLESH PRINCE said:
It's an unnecessary conversation to have with a kid at 1-8 years old...
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i doubt you'd be having this conversation with any child under 3.
And its not unnecessary if the child wants to know, just do your part and education em.
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i agree with all of this.

on a more general note, i do wonder what are the implications of not having a dad or mom, with regards to child psychology. and that is an honest question, not trying to be ignorant, and it takes a village to raise a child anyways. but for the same reason why a child needs a father to be there for them (not to say its impossible for a single mom to raise a child, plenty do) i would say is the same reason you'd want a mother figure in said child's life. I'm sure a psychologist or pediatrician can chime in on this better tho.


as for the commercial....i think there are more controversial things on the news i'd be more concerned about than gay parents and soup. just me tho...
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Actually... I've seen many studies that show that a strong father is even more important in the long term development of a child than the mother is including better grades, better academic achievement, and better economic outlook.
 
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I'm lost

How is a child with one parent or no parents wishing they had a parent being used to compare mentalities with a child that already has two parents?
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They may view having two dads as not norm. Don't get what's so hard to see here. Its still not normalized enough to say that a kid will not wish to have a mother and father when he/she compares his families to other families.

Don't just act like you can't see what I'm talking about because you don't agree with me. Kids will question you.
 
As much as NTers talk down on guys raised by single mothers you'd think they'd enjoy the idea of someone having not one but two fathers 
 
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Based Jesus said:
As much as NTers talk down on guys raised by single mothers you'd think they'd enjoy the idea of someone having not one but two fathers 
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So you don't think a kid is ever gonna ask why he has 2 dad's when he goes over his friends house who has a mother and father?

I think a lot of you guys don't have or haven't been around kids much.

They are curious af and challenge their parents.
 
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Wr said:
So you don't think a kid is ever gonna ask why he has 2 dad's when he goes over his friends house who has a mother and father?

I think a lot of you guys don't have or haven't been around kids much.

They are curious af and challenge their parents.
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Would you rather these kids waste away under the state's care?


Because that's the ONLY other alternative.
 
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im sayin homie long dicking dude
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Based Jesus said:
As much as NTers talk down on guys raised by single mothers you'd think they'd enjoy the idea of someone having not one but two fathers 
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So you don't think a kid is ever gonna ask why he has 2 dad's when he goes over his friends house who has a mother and father?
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Parents would probably explain it at some point? That's what I would do if I was in that situation.

I really sit and talk to my kid though. Can't say the same for every parent.
 
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heLiumcLinton said:
I'm lost

How is a child with one parent or no parents wishing they had a parent being used to compare mentalities with a child that already has two parents?
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They may view having two dads as not norm. Don't get what's so hard to see here. Its still not normalized enough to say that a kid will not wish to have a mother and father when he/she compares his families to other families.

Don't just act like you can't see what I'm talking about because you don't agree with me. Kids will question you.
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It doesn't make sense. The child is growing up with 2 dads or 2 moms. That's been the norm to the kid since he was a baby most likely.

How would he get to the point he wished he had a mom living in the house? TV? friends families? What would be the motivating factor?

Yall coming up with some weird arguments based off assuming how the mind of a child works.
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Based Jesus said:
As much as NTers talk down on guys raised by single mothers you'd think they'd enjoy the idea of someone having not one but two fathers
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So you don't think a kid is ever gonna ask why he has 2 dad's when he goes over his friends house who has a mother and father?

I think a lot of you guys don't have or haven't been around kids much.

They are curious af and challenge their parents.
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Of course they'd ask questions and naturally the parents would give them the best answer they could that was appropriate for the child and simple to understand.

From that point I'm not sure how you're getting to the kid wishing for a mom/dad or being jealous or being angry at his parents for being gay.

Yes they are curious and challenge stuff but the conclusion you're jumping to is not making sense.
 
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And you're gonna say exactly that to the kid too. "You're jumping to conclusions and not making sense. "

Kid is gonna think you don't care about how they feel. Adults not listening.
 
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illmatic34 said:
You're in this thread not defending homosexuality. You were in the last thread not defending homosexuality. So what exactly are you here for? Trying to bring up the fact that homosexuality is up to multiple factors? As if your BS wasn't disproved last thread?


You tell me, why would someone be pleased with messing with the same sex they were raped by. Let me know champ.
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What did you disprove clown? You actually thought it was concrete fact that all homosexuals were born homosexual until I proved you wrong.

And what's the point of your question? I'm not the person who said the jail **** so wtf are you asking me? I simply said that people tend to only think a choice is being made or a person is born that way.

Can you structure you questions towards me on **** that I actually said? You love taking comments and reshaping them to fit whatever narrative you want to cast om someone.

You can't find one ******* comment of me ever saying homosexuality is a sin or that I hate gay people.

I just can't stand people like you who try to cast that "bigot" stone on anyone that's not waving a ******* rainbow flag. It's one thing to call out people who believe that homosexuals shouldn't be entitled to the same rights as everyone else or people that use religious rhetoric to hate them.

It's a completely other thing to try to throw people who may not agree with with commercials like this one or of a young boy playing with Barbies...in the same boat.

Everyone deserves equal rights and fair treatment. Everyone doesn't have to agree with ******* commercials.
 
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Dreamer23 said:
y'all understand that homosexuals are still humans and have been doing homosexual acts long before major religion came around right....? amazes me how people can not approve of homosexuals for being deviants but can name more pornstars than books in the bible...

View media item 1808910Niankhkhnum and Khnumhotep
In 1964, an Egyptian tomb from 2400 B.C. was discovered in the necropolis at Saqqara, Egypt. It belonged to Niankhkhnum and Khnumhotep, two men who had worked as royal manicurists in the palace of the king. The artwork decorating their tomb is believed to be some of the earliest portrayals of homosexual love, with pictures of the men holding hands, embracing, and even kissing.

View media item 1808911Roman Spintria
This ancient Roman coin, called a “spintria“, is from 22-37 A.D. and depicts a man with an erect penis lying on his belly while another man penetrates him behind. The two lovers stare passionately into one another’s eyes. Spintria were small bronze or brass tokens that typically featured sexy pictures and were used to pay prostitutes. We’re pretty sure a coin like this wouldn’t fly today.

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And in Rome and Greece, men routinely had sex with boys and that was considered normal. Just like y'all argue, they didn't choose to be attracted to men, there are those that say they didn't choose to be attracted to young boys but their brains were wired that way.
 
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It was not considered normal in any of those periods.

You guys are looking at history backwards and giving your own interpretation.

Gay wasn't gay back then.

This was a world of eunuchs, sex slaves, and temple stewards.

People weren't walking around in same sex relationships back then.
 
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heLiumcLinton said:
I'm lost

How is a child with one parent or no parents wishing they had a parent being used to compare mentalities with a child that already has two parents?
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They may view having two dads as not norm. Don't get what's so hard to see here. Its still not normalized enough to say that a kid will not wish to have a mother and father when he/she compares his families to other families.

Don't just act like you can't see what I'm talking about because you don't agree with me. Kids will question you.
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I'm not acting like anything I really don't get why a kid with two parents would wish for other parents besides when the parents punish them.
 
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