UPDATE 1/12 Campbell's soup drops same sex couple + son commercial

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DCAllAmerican said:
RIP sleazyy said:
Anybody can get it within my discretion. I personally have limits but that's my choice. I don't support hate speech or inciting violence.


If you don't like it, you don't like it.
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I am of the belief, "ANYONE" can get it.

Like are we really going to say certain folks are cool to get the jokes but others aren't?

We can fire up fat people.

Or Crackheads

But other folks are off limits?

I don't get it
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And that's why I say, everybody want to be equal until it's time to be equal.

The only want it when it's their turn to benefit.
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I knew it was only a matter of time before meth came in here putting quotations around statements no one in here ever said lol. Classic meth. It's much easier to win your arguments and sound intelligent when you manufacture both sides of the debate. Rustled jimmies will have you talking to yourself I guess. Rustled him real good I'd imagine.
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Nothing I quoted in parody of the "tolerate my intolerance crowd" was any more ridiculous than your attempt to invoke segregation-era psychology to paint same sex couples as "deviants."  By that standard, people who practice Judaism are "deviant," because it's non-normative.  You would never stoop to using the term in other contexts, knowing that it is so heavily value-laden.  Your attempt to dress your rebuke of same sex couples in pseudo-intellectual language is based on little more than a loaded Google query or a textbook/wikipedia blurb about Havelock Ellis.  I see no evidence whatsoever to suggest that you've actually attempted to study these issues with any depth or rigor.  (If you had, you'd at the very least stop acting like all gay people are affluent White men.) 

In reality, you're just looking to justify a bias and then, without irony, force that bias down everyone else's throats.  It's so transparently disingenuous of you to pretend that this is just another "opinion."  

You say you're not about discriminating against or intruding upon other people's love and that your opinion is just your opinion, but you're in an awful lot of these threads for it to be "just an opinion."  

Again, explain to me how your "opinion" on sexuality is different than a man's "opinion" about women's purported innate inferiority.  You won't, because your one and only strategy on this issue is to play defense and then talk down to people, as if attending an intro undergraduate psych/soc class with a bunch of frat boys in a lecture hall with stadium seating somehow makes you an expert.  

I find it amusing that, for all your talk about gender norms and "natural" behavior, your favorite pastime apparently involves putting lipstick on a pig.  

You know how you love to say that you've "won" the argument whenever someone resorts to posting .gifs?  I think it's fair to say that your childish fallback lines re: "jimmy rustling" fit squarely in that category.  If you're just here to troll because you feel that it will upset people, you're no better than Bill O'Reilly or a common Internet troll.  

This whole sad inversion ploy falls flat on its face when you consider that there's a causal relationship between your "opinions" and other people's opinions about your opinions.  

If other people's opinions about your opinion - their "bigot bashing" - really makes your life worse, then how can you possibly sit there and pretend that your "opinions" about LGBTQA citizens are harmless and in no way discriminatory?  

Hate the comparison all you want, but it's the same thing as the "war on Whites."  The "war on Whites" is not a "war on Whites."  It's a war on White Supremacy.  

There are, certainly, anti-theists out there who hate Christians because they are Christian.  It's not fair to place all LGBTQA people in that category.  Any gripe someone has with you on that basis is a REACTION to your prejudice against them - not an unprovoked or unjustified attack on your character.  

I don't see anybody denigrating you because you're a straight, cisgender male who's exclusively attracted to straight, cisgender females and wears traditionally male clothing.  If that's a form of discrimination, I've certainly never experienced it.  

Similarly, when you walk down the street, nobody will discriminate against you because they can tell just by observing your behavior that you're "probably a homophobic bigot."  Nobody's going to deny you service at a place of business.  

Stop comparing your "struggle" as someone with increasingly outmoded, backwards, and unpopular views about sexuality with the struggles of those who have to deal with people like you and your ceaseless attempts to invalidate or demonize their relationships and their sexuality.  

When you morph into Internet troll/James Rustler mode and start spouting off about how the sky is falling because men are marrying men and that's "bad for society", you are attacking other people in a way that you are not, yourself, being attacked when attempting to live your normal life.  Your "right" to do that is NOT on the same plane as someone who's just trying to live their lives and be accepted as an EQUAL in the society we're all supposed to share. 

Nobody is "making" your kids gay.  If anything, the "push" that you're so deeply resentful of is a push for RESPECT.  The point isn't to "make" your hypothetical son gay.  The point is to encourage your hypothetical son to accept his gay neighbors, colleagues, relatives, and friends as equals.  

And, yes, that involves acclimating him to the fact that loving, same sex couples exist, raise children, and demonstrate affection for one another just as any other healthy couple might. 
 
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heLiumcLinton said:
He can't dress?

We joke about the way AI dresses too

Millionaires having no sense of style,that's the joke.

How you equate that to disgusting .. I don't know because I don't joke about anything I find disgusting
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Dude, you understand that you make fun of things that you don't find pleasing right?

To say that someone has no sense of style means you find the way they dress as UNAPPEALING.

Disgusting

Ugly

Stupid Looking

Weird

Whatever word you want to use to describe it.

But continue to play dumb
 
Methodical Management said:
 
Nobody is "making" your kids gay.  If anything, the "push" that you're so deeply resentful of is a push for RESPECT.  The point isn't to "make" your hypothetical son gay.  The point is to encourage your hypothetical son to accept his gay neighbors, colleagues, relatives, and friends as equals.  

And, yes, that involves acclimating him to the fact that loving, same sex couples exist, raise children, and demonstrate affection for one another just as any other healthy couple might. 
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I think you are naive to believe any of these companies give a damn about everyone being respected. They care about the bottom line. It isn't a morality contest for these big companies man. Come on Meth
 
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DCAllAmerican said:
heLiumcLinton said:
He can't dress?


We joke about the way AI dresses too


Millionaires having no sense of style,that's the joke.


How you equate that to disgusting .. I don't know because I don't joke about anything I find disgusting
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Dude, you understand that you make fun of things that you don't find pleasing right?

To say that someone has no sense of style means you find the way they dress as UNAPPEALING.

Disgusting
Ugly
Stupid Looking
Weird

Whatever word you want to use to describe it.

But continue to play dumb
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I'm playing dumb because you don't know the difference between stupid looking and disgusting :lol:

You don't know the difference between saying someone looks dumb and saying someone looks disgusting
 
DCAllAmerican said:
Methodical Management said:
 

Nobody is "making" your kids gay.  If anything, the "push" that you're so deeply resentful of is a push for RESPECT.  The point isn't to "make" your hypothetical son gay.  The point is to encourage your hypothetical son to accept his gay neighbors, colleagues, relatives, and friends as equals.  


And, yes, that involves acclimating him to the fact that loving, same sex couples exist, raise children, and demonstrate affection for one another just as any other healthy couple might. 
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I think you are naive to believe any of these companies give a damn about everyone being respected. They care about the bottom line. It isn't a morality contest for these big companies man. Come on Meth
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This discussion has clearly moved well beyond simple just this commercial. Least thats how I took his comments
 
Anyone can get it?....LET ANYONE EVER on NT even hint at making fun of black stereotypes in ANY form and see if "anyone can get it" still stands, unless of course they black themselves, ya'll a bunch of hypocrites....funny thing I'm willing to bet the most intolerant NTers of homosexuality in this thread are black themselves....


INB4 feels are caught

IDGAD.
 
ksteezy said:
Anyone can get it?....LET ANYONE EVER on NT even hint at making fun of black stereotypes in ANY form and see if "anyone can get it" still stands, unless of course they black themselves, ya'll a bunch of hypocrites....funny thing I'm willing to bet the most intolerant NTers of homosexuality in this thread are black themselves....


INB4 feels are caught

IDGAD.
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the irony is the white family thanksgiving thread got locked though

I wonder why, I mean people were just making fun of things they found disgusting :rolleyes
 
heLiumcLinton said:
I'm playing dumb because you don't know the difference between stupid looking and disgusting
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You don't know the difference between saying someone looks dumb and saying someone looks disgusting
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Someone in here already said that the way MJ Dresses is disgusting to them. Why is it impossible to describe bad dressing as disgusting.

Nobody said those words are the SAME THING.

I said those are two words that can be used to describe how a bad dresser is viewed
 
ksteezy said:
Anyone can get it?....LET ANYONE EVER on NT even hint at making fun of black stereotypes in ANY form and see if "anyone can get it" still stands, unless of course they black themselves, ya'll a bunch of hypocrites....funny thing I'm willing to bet the most intolerant NTers of homosexuality in this thread are black themselves....


INB4 feels are caught

IDGAD.
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Nobody should be above the jokes. That is how I feel.

I have nothing to do with what gets locked on NT.

But in the real world, you can't say there is open season on ONE group but this other group is off limits.

WHO determines what IS and ISN'T open for the jokes?
 
DCAllAmerican said:
Nobody should be above the jokes. That is how I feel.

I have nothing to do with what gets locked on NT.

But in the real world, you can't say there is open season on ONE group but this other group is off limits.

WHO determines what IS and ISN'T open for the jokes?
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oh Rly?
 
I'm gonna start making racist jokes on Blacks, Mexicans, Asians, etc.


If you get offended well that's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.


I'd be labeled a racist with the quickness.


Jokes about race perpetuate negative stereotypes all the time. Guess what, people still believe in them. You do that enough, you got people thinking it's a sickness and they should be shunned by society. I mean it seems like Islamophobia is at an all time high in this country. How is it not the same for the culture of homophobia that is widespread on this site?

I can gather plenty of gay jokes on this website:

Gay is as gay does. If you don't wanna be gay, don't eat Campbell's soup. Lol
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I think a lot of people thought he was in touch with his feminine side, but after these recent events I think he just put the (tramp) stamp on his zest
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odell bleeds zest
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Bolden with a lil zest of the wrist. ODB would be proud
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ZEST GAWD!!!
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Wouldn't be surprised if Michael Sam somehow found a way to outzest Odel
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Guess that makes Odell God's son .The Prince of NY,Duke of Zest
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Brady is king zest, the moist messiah. That video of him dancing was so flagrant.
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That tatt The zest fuels his talent South n_'s just different
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That was from the media day. Zest overload.
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Bosh v kat. Classic zest versus new age zest
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Wade was born in the zest, molded by it
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So much Zest on Thugger
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But these are all jokes, so if anyone gets offended at them, boo hoo they're ******* soft. But wait, crack a race joke and things get serious real quick. Some blatant hypocrisy. Do you then.
 
ksteezy said:
oh Rly?
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Either NOBODY is available for the jokes

OR

EVERYBODY is available for the jokes

If we can joke about Jordan, we should be able to joke about Magic Jr.

If we can joke about white people not knowing how to completely eat the meat off of a chicken bone, we should be able to joke about how Black people put bills in their dog's names.
 
Nah not just any race Bruh....I mean we had dudes legit celebrating the rise in deaths of Middle Aged white men not too long ago... :nerd:
 
I think you are naive to believe any of these companies give a damn about everyone being respected. They care about the bottom line. It isn't a morality contest for these big companies man. Come on Meth
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You could say the same about any attempts to promote "diversity" in marketing.  

Remember the adorable Cheerios ad with the interracial couple?  I didn't see you attempting to urinate in their cheerios, nor did I see any pseudo-intellectual attempts to reach back into the academic dustbin to scientifically "prove" that multiracial children are unnatural abominations.  

Obviously there's money to be made going the opposite way, too, as Chic-Fil-A has.  The point is that they didn't create the concept of producing positive, realistic depictions of once-tabooed couples in healthy, loving relationships.  They latched on to it, perhaps for cynical reasons, but the "push" is not, itself, a corporate one.  

The soup Illuminati have no profit motive in turning you children gay.   
If we can joke about white people not knowing how to completely eat the meat off of a chicken bone, we should be able to joke about how Black people put bills in their dog's names.
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That's a false equivalence and you know it.  Or do you not remember your Twitter campaign against Michelle Beadle? 

"If the Wayans brothers can wear White face...." 
 
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DCAllAmerican said:
Either NOBODY is available for the jokes

OR

EVERYBODY is available for the jokes

If we can joke about Jordan, we should be able to joke about Magic Jr.

If we can joke about white people not knowing how to completely eat the meat off of a chicken bone, we should be able to joke about how Black people put bills in their dog's names.
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Lmaoooooooo








YOU MUST BE NEW AROUND HERE.
 
Part of being black is making light of shared sorrows because...well They are sorrows. That's the root of black humor in America. And y'all wanna take that too. Smh
 
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Dudes in here throwing down, accusations flying left and right, now looking at a race derail... This is comedy
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Wr said:
Part of being black is making light of shared sorrows because...well They are sorrows. That's the root of black humor in America. And y'all wanna take that too. Smh
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Wait so let me get this straight, as a black man is ok to make fun of gays, flamboyance, whites, Latinos, etc but making fun of your race belongs to YOU and only YOU?...

Before anyone claims I'm demanding a pass to make fun of black stereotypes, THAT IS NOT what I'm doing, only reason I brought this up is to expose the hypocrisy that bleeds through this site.
 
1. But Meth, I specifically said White Chicks shouldn't have been allowed to have been done. White Face is just as bad as black face.

2. I don't think a Soup Commercial will turn anyone gay. I NEVER uttered those words in this thread. And the Cheerios commercial had the same AGENDA. That AGENDA is to grab another group of individuals. These are major companies, they are all about making money man. I don't look to them as promoting diversity or tolerance. They don't give a damn about that
 
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