UPDATE 1/12 Campbell's soup drops same sex couple + son commercial

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1. But Meth, I specifically said White Chicks shouldn't have been allowed to have been done. White Face is just as bad as black face.

2. I don't think a Soup Commercial will turn anyone gay. I NEVER uttered those words in this thread. And the Cheerios commercial had the same AGENDA. That AGENDA is to grab another group of individuals. These are major companies, they are all about making money man. I don't look to them as promoting diversity or tolerance. They don't give a damn about that

Dude, no it isn't. I mean it is offensive but there's no history of white face performers openly mocking a race ever. Or being exploited for profit, at least repeatedly.
 
1. But Meth, I specifically said White Chicks shouldn't have been allowed to have been done. White Face is just as bad as black face.

2. I don't think a Soup Commercial will turn anyone gay. I NEVER uttered those words in this thread. And the Cheerios commercial had the same AGENDA. That AGENDA is to grab another group of individuals. These are major companies, they are all about making money man. I don't look to them as promoting diversity or tolerance. They don't give a damn about that

Is not about the company, but about the viewers perception....the company couldn't give two dambs, but plenty people on social media and here jumped at the opportunity to display their bigotry using this commercial as the excuse.
 
That troll Bill O'Reilly is probably the worst with that along with Limbaugh. This dude legitimately said that it's "open season" on Christian white men in the country during the summer in the middle of all the police shootings :rofl: :rofl: :smh:

If unearned privilege is your "normal" and the way you've always known things to be, any challenge to or diminution of that privilege comes across as an "assault."  

There's a reason why many of these same people are often bleating about the "war on Christmas."  Inherent in that argument is this entitled assumption that the entire public realm belongs exclusively to them and people like them, because that's just "how things are."  

They don't stop to think about what it's like to live on the other side of that.  



I don't have a problem with anyone's sexuality. It's literally irrelevant to me. I have a problem with flamboyant clowns and attention ****** and I reserve the right to that opinion just as they reserve the right to dress and act as annoyingly as they want.

If it were really an opinion on par with "I feel a certain type of way about guys wearing Ed Hardy t-shirts and cargo shorts," that would be one thing - but in practice it comes across quite differently.

Think about how people frame their criticism of "urban" fashion, for example, or the way many people tend to take instances of teenage obnoxiousness and racialize that commenting on Worldstar types of videos - and even in the conscious or subconscious process of determining what "offenses" are worthy of public comment.  The criticism is selective, and thus the whole fashion/manners thing reveals itself as a pretense.

If it were just about people dressing poorly, that would transcend all other categories.  You'd probably be talking about Michael Jordan's denim in the same breath as you would about Magic Johnson's son's fashion choices.  In practice, that's not what typically happens.

Criticism is reserved for people who dress or act in ways that challenge gender norms, and that's what gets trashed.  Like Jan Vesely can make out with his girlfriend on draft night and people will congratulate him for it the next day, but when Michael Sam does essentially the same thing suddenly he's crossed the line.  

Would you criticize a woman for dressing the same way that Earvin Johnson III does - or does the criticism of EJ stem from a perceived challenge to gender norms?  


That, to me, is what it seems like a lot of this is really about.  Some people are just really threatened by any perceived  "challenge" to masculinity.  

REAL SPIT
 
I laugh at race jokes if they're funny
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1. But Meth, I specifically said White Chicks shouldn't have been allowed to have been done. White Face is just as bad as black face.

2. I don't think a Soup Commercial will turn anyone gay. I NEVER uttered those words in this thread. And the Cheerios commercial had the same AGENDA. That AGENDA is to grab another group of individuals. These are major companies, they are all about making money man. I don't look to them as promoting diversity or tolerance. They don't give a damn about that
If it wasn't about promoting diversity while grabbing a demographic, they could a just clearly stuck to regular white families or even black families and it would have probably made little difference in profits..
 
Love is love....if anything from my own personal experience gay relationships love harder than most heterosexual ones I've known....that is from MY personal experience.
 
Part of being black is making light of shared sorrows because...well They are sorrows. That's the root of black humor in America. And y'all wanna take that too. Smh
Nah man. I can't agree with that. If we can joke about them, they should be able to joke about us.

Went to a Comedy Show last Friday, Iranian dude up on the mic. He hit every race with a joke. Then he said, "Black people I know you think you are immune to it, but you can get it too." I had NO problem with it. Equal opportunity.
 
I laugh at race jokes if they're funny :nerd:

Exactly. And I'm not naive enough to think my white friends don't crack black jokes when I'm not around. Because I sure as hell am cracking jokes. That's part of free speech. I know people don't like me and are vocal about it. That's fine. I have a voice as well. And the right to say something in response if I choose. I can actually exercise this right man. Wow
 
1. But Meth, I specifically said White Chicks shouldn't have been allowed to have been done. White Face is just as bad as black face.

2. I don't think a Soup Commercial will turn anyone gay. I NEVER uttered those words in this thread. And the Cheerios commercial had the same AGENDA. That AGENDA is to grab another group of individuals. These are major companies, they are all about making money man. I don't look to them as promoting diversity or tolerance. They don't give a damn about that
If it wasn't about promoting diversity while grabbing a demographic, they could a just clearly stuck to regular white families or even black families and it would have probably made little difference in profits..

But then there wouldn't be a 15 page thread on NT about...Soup.
Add that to all the other mediums that have had similar discussions.

That's invaluable promotion.
 
Dude, no it isn't. I mean it is offensive but there's no history of white face performers openly mocking a race ever. Or being exploited for profit, at least repeatedly.
That isn't what I am saying. Of course there is deep rooted history of white folks acting as black people. That is a given.

I am simply saying that in 2015, NEITHER ONE IS COOL. Nothing further. Neither should be done
 
Nah man. I can't agree with that. If we can joke about them, they should be able to joke about us.

Went to a Comedy Show last Friday, Iranian dude up on the mic. He hit every race with a joke. Then he said, "Black people I know you think you are immune to it, but you can get it too." I had NO problem with it. Equal opportunity.

No I agree with this bro.

I'm just saying as to why white people mess up when they do stuff like try to say it without the er. Stuff like that.
 
That isn't what I am saying. Of course there is deep rooted history of white folks acting as black people. That is a given.

I am simply saying that in 2015, NEITHER ONE IS COOL. Nothing further. Neither should be done

But those were meant as jokes, were they not? If they aren't cool, what makes gay jokes OK? Isn't it possible to make something funny without offending people?
 
No I agree with this bro.

I'm just saying as to why white people mess up when they do stuff like try to say it without the er. Stuff like that.
A white person can make a black joke without using the N-word. That isn't even needed man.

So answer this question for me. Everyone can take the jokes but don't joke about Black People and Gay People. Because that is what I am gathering from this thread and/or real world observations.
 
Love is love....if anything from my own personal experience gay relationships love harder than most heterosexual ones I've known....that is from MY personal experience.

But nobody is arguing that though. I love gay people man. They people just like you and me. I know the fight isn't done yet but a lot of us are way past that point.

Dudes just want their rights to ridicule Magic Jr without being labeled intolerant or a bigot.
We can make fun of Auntie on her 3rd husband from the Black Family Thanksgiving Meme thread but We can't crack jokes on Magic Jrs size 16 chancletas?
 
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Exactly. And I'm not naive enough to think my white friends don't crack black jokes when I'm not around. Because I sure as hell am cracking jokes. That's part of free speech. I know people don't like me and are vocal about it. That's fine. I have a voice as well. And the right to say something in response if I choose. I can actually exercise this right man. Wow

Why do they feel they can't crack them to your face?.....I wonder, meanwhile you have no qualms cracking some low key racist or stereotype about Latinos, whites, Asians even if they are around?....not saying YOU personally, but that's just the way the majority of the world works.
 
But those were meant as jokes, were they not? If they aren't cool, what makes gay jokes OK? Isn't it possible to make something funny without offending people?
You are still talking about Whites doing Black Face. I am off of that. We all know that was done in a hurtful manner, sure it was meant to be a joke but it was from a place of hatred.

That isn't my point. Don't focus on THAT. We are on the same page with THAT.

I am saying that NOW, there is no need for anyone to do ANY form of ____FACE. (Red, Yellow, Black, White).

That is off limits
 
Does anyone else see the irony here when looking at the definition of the word bigot?

The irony is deafening. As evidenced by the paragraphs upon paragraphs you got in response and not a single intelligent comment to that end.
There is no irony.

Everybody here is fine with being intolerant of your intolerance. If you want to scale it back and say it's just your opinion then you'll have to deal with other ppl's opinion of your opinion. It's really rather simple.


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If dudes were literally just saying I don't agree with homosexuality and not saying anything else no you wouldn't be called a bigot.

WRONG!
LIES!

You can't provide one single example of that being done. You're a perfect example of the opposite actually.
I knew it was only a matter of time before meth came in here putting quotations around statements no one in here ever said lol. Classic meth. It's much easier to win your arguments and sound intelligent when you manufacture both sides of the debate. Rustled jimmies will have you talking to yourself I guess. Rustled him real good I'd imagine.
It's pretty pathetic you're regulating this to rustling jimmies.
 
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But nobody is arguing that though. I love gay people man. They people just like you and me. I know the fight isn't done yet but a lot of us are way past that point.

Dudes just want their rights to ridicule Magic Jr without being labeled intolerant or a bigot.
We can make fun of Auntie on her 3rd husband from the Black Family Thanksgiving Meme thread but We can't crack jokes on Magic Jrs size 16 chancletas?

I'm not arguing that, I don't laught at his sexual preference, I laugh at the way he dresses, who wouldn't?...the same way i laugh at a fat chick trying to fit into a size 0 jeans.
 
2. I don't think a Soup Commercial will turn anyone gay. I NEVER uttered those words in this thread. And the Cheerios commercial had the same AGENDA. That AGENDA is to grab another group of individuals. These are major companies, they are all about making money man. I don't look to them as promoting diversity or tolerance. They don't give a damn about that

While profits are number 1, I don't think we can discount that there are some good folks who work at these companies who would love to see social progress for various groups impacted by bigotry. Tim Cook, the leader of the largest company in the world came out to the public as gay. He did it to bring awareness, not get gay people to buy his product. Gay and straight people are buying just as much Apple, Cheerios and soup as each other.
 
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