Wrestling Thread Jan 4-17 | 1/11 WCW Legend Going Into WWE HoF; Brock Returns to Raw Tonight

JulesLives said:
Lol naw you good i love a good discussion.

I said they werent on thos guys levels you listed. But to say that they couldnt draw ouside of wrestling is crazy.

Bret was on the simpsons for god sake lol
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It isn't crazy because they had limited drawing power WITHIN wrestling.

And I am sure the episode with Bret on the Simpsons was one of the lowest rated SImpsons episodes of that season. 

And when you say they aren't on those people's levels, they have no business being brought up into the discussion
 
casekicks said:
Bret was a bigger draw than HBK..Bret is severely undervalued for his international appeal and drawing power..But to be honest, neither Bret nor Shawn were guys who drew huge money..Which is funny to me considering they were 2 of the best all time..
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At their height, the Wrestling business was on the down turn. Regardless of "drawing power", they are both great wrestlers. Just victims of circumstance.
 
Actually the Bret Hart ep of the Simpsons drew one of the highest ratings in the show's history
 
DCAllAmerican said:
 
EVERYONE knows who The Rock, Stones, Andre, and Hulk were. They transcended the sport.

HBK and Bret didn't do that by any stretch.

Post Career doesn't count because if someone new watched that HBK Hunting show, they don't know him as a WRESTLER, they know him as a show host.
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Alright, man
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.  I know people who couldn't tell you one match Rock or Austin had, but they'd probably remember them in a movie, so does that mean they know them as actors thus not adding to their clout?
 
DCAllAmerican said:
And I am sure the episode with Bret on the Simpsons was one of the lowest rated SImpsons episodes of that season.
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So what?  A wrestler was on one of the biggest shows in television as his wrestling persona and there target audience wasn't wrestling fans.
 
Degenerate423 said:
 
So what?  A wrestler was on one of the biggest shows in television as his wrestling persona and there target audience wasn't wrestling fans.
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Uhm, if it was one of the lowest rated shows, that tells me that non-wrestling fans weren't the ones tuning in.

Like I said man, a fat old white woman in Delaware wouldn't know who Bret or HBK were. They did NOT transcend the sport of wrestling.

And numbers back that up.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
 
Uhm, if it was one of the lowest rated shows, that tells me that non-wrestling fans weren't the ones tuning in.

Like I said man, a fat old white woman in Delaware wouldn't know who Bret or HBK were. They did NOT transcend the sport of wrestling.

And numbers back that up.
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In its original broadcast, "The Old Man and the Lisa" finished 38th in ratings for the week of April 14–20, 1997, with a Nielsen rating of 8.3, equivalent to approximately 8.1 million viewing households. It was tied along with King of the Hill as the third highest-rated show on the Fox network that week, following The X-files and Melrose Place.
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Yes, I'm using wikipedia as a source.
 
lol I got curious and researched that Bret Hart Episode of the Simpsons, couldn't find the rating but "the old man and Lisa" won an environmental media award....but that's all I came up with

Sorry for the random research haha

Edit* I was slow
 
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