North Korea Says It Has Successfully Carried Out a Hydrogen Bomb Test

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nawghtyhare said:
U know if Americas politicians were more "diverse"
And not just a few other ethnicities sprinkled here and there
And actual the "every man" type of politician held those positions
We wouldn't have the problems we have
And I think we wouldn't have as much conflict as we do
In saying that
Maaaaaan lets just take North Korea and call it a day
Work something out with China and Russia so they wouldn't trip off us taking me out
My question is
What does n Korea have that China and Russia backs them
Like do they just back them as a giant **** you to the u.s.
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I don't even know where to begin. Suffice it to say that you should stick to posts about not tipping. Having more Everyday Joe types in Congress is not going to help. Stop spreading ignorant ideas like that, some poor teenager might read that and think you have a good point (you don't.)

The issue with North Korea isn't taking their leaders out - that's arguably the easiest part, and if a military coup ever actually does occur they might actually do most of that for us. The biggest issue that everyone is concerned about are the millions of average North Koreans who have very little knowledge of the outside world. These are people who not only will have to be reeducated, but will also need training, jobs, food, and shelter.

China actually doesn't want North Korea having nuclear weapons any more than we do, and were encouraging disarmament before NK started acting up. They know that if NK starts something, they are going to be on the receiving end of the following humanitarian crisis, so its within their interests to have a docile North Korea as well. They just don't want a western appointed leader in NK. At this point, I'm sure China doesn't even want NK to have NK, especially if they did this without warning.

Now, for the bomb itself, I highly doubt it was an actual Hydrogen detenation. I'm not a scientist, but folks over on Reddit have been saying that the seismic activity (magnitiude of 5.1) isn't consistent with a Hydrogen bomb and was more likely a Fission bomb, which is still bad, but not as bad. Since North Korean scientists can presumably communicate with those in China, Russia, and Iran...and since NK is now enriching its own plutonium...its not impossible to think that they have the ability to do an H bomb. I just think it's not something to worry about quite yet, given NK doesn't have enough resources to feed its own people, much less complete the task of developing a delivery system.

They'll just use this as excuse to prop up their leader, and then threaten to use it until we give them more aid. Cycle will repeat until China realizes its no longer worth the trouble.
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U know what I find funny
Is that very intelligent and well off folks seem to think the average joe couldn't handle the political landscape
Well look how long those types have ran it
Apparently it must not be working all to well
What's wrong with ur every day working man holding those positions
They know pretty much what the majority of this country needs
Why have the top 10% dictate what the other 90% do if they can't relate
Why do folks always assume ur average joe can't handle those types of things
When the average joe is the one who actually moves the gears and does the heavy lifting in this country
How is this thinking ignorant????
Wouldn't u thinking its "above" the average joe ignorant
 
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GetBack said:
nawghtyhare said:
And aren't a majority of those in power in America Caucasoid???????
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You've never agreed with white politicians?
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I never said all caucasoid's were in the wrong or bad or racist or whatever
I just said how about some diversity among the group of leaders
Not just a few melanin inclined folks sprinkled here and there
But a fairly even amount of folks from various backgrounds and ethnicities
Instead of the majority of well off caucasoid's we have now
I'm not saying all remember that
I'm just saying the majority
 
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This boy said "Caucasoid"..
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I don't even think he knows what groups fall under that category
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nawghtyhare said:
U know what I find funny
Is that very intelligent and well off folks seem to think the average joe couldn't handle the political landscape
Well look how long those types have ran it
Apparently it must not be working all to well
What's wrong with ur every day working man holding those positions
They know pretty much what the majority of this country needs
Why have the top 10% dictate what the other 90% do if they can't relate
Why do folks always assume ur average joe can't handle those types of things
When the average joe is the one who actually moves the gears and does the heavy lifting in this country
How is this thinking ignorant????
Wouldn't u thinking its "above" the average joe ignorant
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I'm not all that intelligent and I'm definitely not well off, but you might want to deal with those self esteem issues. I really don't know how to explain this to you. I'll use your own words to demonstrate a point. In your first post, you say:

U know if Americas politicians were more "diverse"
And not just a few other ethnicities sprinkled here and there
And actual the "every man" type of politician held those positions
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You may not have caught it, but you're actually asking for two very different things here. The first thing you ask for is diversity. The second thing you ask for is more average joe types. The problem is that, by definition, an average group of anything isn't diverse, its average. Tyical. Expected. Alike. You want average Americans running Congress? You'll receive a bunch of white dudes on welfare from Kentucky. That's the average joe. That is the typical American. The typical American makes less than $30,000, is on some sort of prescription, some form of government assistance, and probably has debt that outweighs their salary. Do you really want the same type of dude that can't remember to put Skim milk in your Starbucks latte deciding how much you pay in taxes? I don't either.

On the other hand, diverse politicians would be different. Very different. Have you ever sat in the room with a Muslim, Christian, Vegan, Catholic Priest, and a Scientologist at the same time? How many things do you think they could reach concensus on? Do you think those people can run a political party together? On a more basic level, do you think those people can work together and draft actual policies that will govern actual people? There is a limit to how much diversity any one group can have before it will naturally start to fracture into smaller groups. Simply introducing diversity into a situation won't make it better, and can in fact make it worse.

The reason why nearly EVERYONE doesn't want average joes being politicians is because of just that: they are average. The average person isn't inspiring, can't lead others, and isn't really good at anything in particular. While I don't like many politicians, most are very capable in their respective fields. That's presumably why people respect them and elect them to lead, outside of the commercials that tell them to do so around election time.

The diversity piece I agree about. The majority of politicians are career politicans, who majored in political science, law, or a similar field. I think that issue is something worth discussing. No one wants average leaders.
 
nawghtyhare said:
Mostly people of European origin
Or white folks
But can also include folks from Northern Africa and Asia
But it's also a term that can be interchangeable with the word Caucasian
So I think I know who I'm referring to bruh
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You know latinos, middle easterners, people from India, etc all fall under the caucasian race category right?
 
Yeah said:
nawghtyhare said:
U know what I find funny
Is that very intelligent and well off folks seem to think the average joe couldn't handle the political landscape
Well look how long those types have ran it
Apparently it must not be working all to well
What's wrong with ur every day working man holding those positions
They know pretty much what the majority of this country needs
Why have the top 10% dictate what the other 90% do if they can't relate
Why do folks always assume ur average joe can't handle those types of things
When the average joe is the one who actually moves the gears and does the heavy lifting in this country
How is this thinking ignorant????
Wouldn't u thinking its "above" the average joe ignorant
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I'm not all that intelligent and I'm definitely not well off, but you might want to deal with those self esteem issues. I really don't know how to explain this to you. I'll use your own words to demonstrate a point. In your first post, you say:

U know if Americas politicians were more "diverse"
And not just a few other ethnicities sprinkled here and there
And actual the "every man" type of politician held those positions
Click to expand...

You may not have caught it, but you're actually asking for two very different things here. The first thing you ask for is diversity. The second thing you ask for is more average joe types. The problem is that, by definition, an average group of anything isn't diverse, its average. Tyical. Expected. Alike. You want average Americans running Congress? You'll receive a bunch of white dudes on welfare from Kentucky. That's the average joe. That is the typical American. The typical American makes less than $30,000, is on some sort of prescription, some form of government assistance, and probably has debt that outweighs their salary. Do you really want the same type of dude that can't remember to put Skim milk in your Starbucks latte deciding how much you pay in taxes? I don't either.

On the other hand, diverse politicians would be different. Very different. Have you ever sat in the room with a Muslim, Christian, Vegan, Catholic Priest, and a Scientologist at the same time? How many things do you think they could reach concensus on? Do you think those people can run a political party together? On a more basic level, do you think those people can work together and draft actual policies that will govern actual people? There is a limit to how much diversity any one group can have before it will naturally start to fracture into smaller groups. Simply introducing diversity into a situation won't make it better, and can in fact make it worse.

The reason why nearly EVERYONE doesn't want average joes being politicians is because of just that: they are average. The average person isn't inspiring, can't lead others, and isn't really good at anything in particular. While I don't like many politicians, most are very capable in their respective fields. That's presumably why people respect them and elect them to lead, outside of the commercials that tell them to do so around election time.

The diversity piece I agree about. The majority of politicians are career politicans, who majored in political science, law, or a similar field. I think that issue is something worth discussing. No one wants average leaders.
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First off
Ur average joe is more diverse than anyone
Why do u think they call it "average" joe
There's varying degrees of knowledge from person to person
Some highs some lows which would round out an average joe
And shows what u think
If a bunch of average joes in ur opinion are welfare recipients in Kentucky
And why does the average American make so less have u thought of that
If the biggest and brightest as u assume are in high positions
Why do they let the common people live well below the poverty line
U sit here and make it seem like these politicians we have now and in the past
We're so great and above the average person
Even though we have proof they can be evil human beings without remorse
Tuskegee experiments
And various other acts these politicians knew about or had an interest in
U think they are better than everyone else???? Psssssh
They have more prejudice and differences than ur average joe does
Shoot I've seen ur average joe Come together in the face of adversity and a common cause
And these politicians sit and argue over the dumbest ****
While a majority of this country
Which is suppose to be the greatest on eart
A majority of this country sits at or below the poverty line
 
GetBack said:
nawghtyhare said:
Mostly people of European origin

Or white folks

But can also include folks from Northern Africa and Asia

But it's also a term that can be interchangeable with the word Caucasian

So I think I know who I'm referring to bruh
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You know latinos, middle easterners, people from India, etc all fall under the caucasian race category right?
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Those are mongoloid
Step ur taxonamy game up bruh
 
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yeah yeah
And while I get what ur trying to say
I've met folks from the hood that are just as gifted
Have as many bright ideas
And are just as intelligent as them folks that create our laws
U making it seem like they are better than us
U ashamed bruh
U ashamed of being average
Ur dad yelled at u when u got B's instead of A's???
U think ur not as good as an Ivy League graduate???
It's ok bruh
U are special
Bring average is ok
 
Wendy sherman was instrumental in the nuclear talks with NK.

And she was instrumental in the Iran nuclear deal even after the NK deal was proven to be ****

Isn't that a wonderful sign!?
 
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nawghtyhare said:
First off
Ur average joe is more diverse than anyone
Why do u think they call it "average" joe
There's varying degrees of knowledge from person to person
Some highs some lows which would round out an average joe
And shows what u think
If a bunch of average joes in ur opinion are welfare recipients in Kentucky
And why does the average American make so less have u thought of that
If the biggest and brightest as u assume are in high positions
Why do they let the common people live well below the poverty line
U sit here and make it seem like these politicians we have now and in the past
We're so great and above the average person
Even though we have proof they can be evil human beings without remorse
Tuskegee experiments
And various other acts these politicians knew about or had an interest in
U think they are better than everyone else???? Psssssh
They have more prejudice and differences than ur average joe does
Shoot I've seen ur average joe Come together in the face of adversity and a common cause
And these politicians sit and argue over the dumbest ****
While a majority of this country
Which is suppose to be the greatest on eart
A majority of this country sits at or below the poverty line
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I think you need to read this bro: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/average

Responses to some of your other points:

- Its not my opinion that the average American lives in Kentucky on welfare, it's just a fact that the average American lives in a non-urban setting (like Kentucky, yes the entire state) and makes less than $32,000. Just like its a fact the highest level of education the average American completes is High School. Its all here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_Joe Stop projecting.

- The average American makes less than $32K largely due to supply and demand. If there is a high supply of average workers and a low demand for average work, then companies are able to offer less money. The systematic destruction of American unions didn't help either, thanks GM.

Never once did I say that I actually like our current politicians, nor did I say that I think they're better people who are any less capable of evil as the next person. I simply think that they are better fit to lead than the average joe. I think you're confused about what the term Average Joe actually means.

PS You really need to stop projecting your insecurities.
 
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nawghtyhare said:
Those are mongoloid
Step ur taxonamy game up bruh
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Wrong. When you say we need less "caucasoids" in office you are referring to a large % of hispanics, who can fall into many groups. Caucasoid and mongloid are outdated anyways so it's silly to even use them. Another label that's holding us back.

So by your own admission, if certain latinos, arabs, indians, natives, north africans, asians compromised the majority of political positions, you would still be pissing and moaning.

And it's taxonomy, bruh.

Yes, I have minored in anthropology.
 
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GetBack said:
nawghtyhare said:
Those are mongoloid

Step ur taxonamy game up bruh
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Wrong. When you say we need less "caucasoids" in office you are referring to a large % of hispanics, who can fall into many groups. Caucasoid and mongloid are outdated anyways so it's silly to even use them. Another label that's holding us back.

So by your own admission, if certain latinos, arabs, indians, natives, north africans, asians compromised the majority of political positions, you would still be pissing and moaning.

And it's taxonomy, bruh.

Yes, I have minored in anthropology.
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Maybe u should have majored in it


The Caucasian race (also Caucasoid[1] or occasionally Europid[2]) is a taxon historically used to describe the physical or biological type of some or all of the populations of Europe, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, Western Asia, Central Asia, and South Asia.[3] The term was used in biological anthropology for many people from these regions, without regard necessarily to skin tone.[4] First introduced in early racial science and anthropometry, the taxon has historically been used to denote one of the three proposed major races (Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid) of humankind.[5] Although its validity and utility are disputed by many anthropologists, Caucasoid as a biological classification remains in use,[6] particularly within the field of forensic anthropology.[5]
 
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You literally just proved my point by pasting that wiki text
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Hispanics can fit into more than one category (do you even know the history of latin america and its peoples?). What you've said is essentially proving your disdain for the hispanic caucasian, making you racist in essence. You should watch how you use your words, or at least educate yourself before spewing your hatred towards groups of peoples.
 
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GetBack said:
You literally just proved my point by pasting that wiki text :lol:

Hispanics can fit into more than one category (do you even know the history of latin america and its peoples?). What you've said is essentially proving your disdain for the hispanic caucasian, making you racist in essence. You should watch how you use your words, or at least educate yourself before spewing your hatred towards groups of peoples.
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I never said I had disdain for any race
Show me where I said that
 
nawghtyhare said:
I never said I had disdain for any race
Show me where I said that
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I put two and two together bro. You insinuated that we have the social issues we do because the US Govt is "too caucasian."

You could'vehad a legit argument if you stuck to "the haves and have nots" principle.

It's not race. It's wealth. You resorted to the physical characteristics of leaders when in reality it's economic. That's being prejudiced. It's no different that blaming the color of skin on urban violence.
 
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nawghtyhare said:
I never said I had disdain for any race

Show me where I said that
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I put two and two together bro. You insinuated that we have the social issues we do because the US Govt is "too caucasian."

You could'vehad a legit argument if you stuck to "the haves and have nots" principle.

It's not race. It's wealth. You resorted to the physical characteristics of leaders when in reality it's economic. That's being prejudiced. It's no different that blaming the color of skin on urban violence.
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I didn't insinuate the government is full of caucasoid's
The government is too caucasoid
But I have no problem with caucasoid's
Just wish for more diversity in our government

I like what ur posting though even though we don't agree
 
 CORRECTED-North Korea faked sub-launched missile test footage - analysis

By James Pearson

SEOUL Jan 12 (Reuters) - Footage of a North Korean submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) test released by Pyongyang two days after it announced it had conducted the country's fourth nuclear test last week was faked, according to an analysis by a California-based think tank.

In defiance of a UN ban, the isolated country has said it has ballistic missile technology which would allow it to launch a nuclear warhead from a submarine, although experts and analysis of North Korean state media cast doubt on the claim.

North Korean state television aired footage on Friday of the latest test, said to have taken place in December. Unlike a previous SLBM test in May, it had not been announced at the time.

"The rocket ejected, began to light, and then failed catastrophically," said Melissa Hanham, a senior research associate at the California-based Middlebury Institute's James Martin Centre for Nonproliferation Studies (CNS).

South Korea's military said on Saturday North Korea appeared to have modified the video and edited it with Scud missile footage from 2014 although an official told Reuters that the ejection technology might have improved since the May test.

The CNS analysis shows two frames of video from state media where flames engulf the missile and small parts of its body break away.

"North Korea used heavy video editing to cover over this fact," Hanham said in an email.

"They used different camera angles and editing to make it appear that the launch was several continuous launches, but played side by side you can see that it is the same event".

North Korean propagandists used rudimentary editing techniques to crop and flip old video footage of an earlier SLBM test and Scud missile launch, the video analysis showed.

The North's claim that its fourth and most recent nuclear test, conducted last Wednesday, was of a more advanced and powerful hydrogen bomb has drawn scepticism from the U.S. government and experts.

It is also unclear if North Korea has developed a nuclear device small enough to mount on a missile. (Additional reporting by Ju-min Park and Hyunyoung Yi; Editing by Simon Cameron-Moore)
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