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If you believe in this horse**** over the age of 12 you just want to to feel special
Horoscopes. Do you believe in it?
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If you believe in this horse**** over the age of 12 you just want to to feel special
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Considering that I'm not a hairdresser, no. I don't believe in astrology.
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Yet the people at the forefront of society do. Somethings gotta give. They're stupid enough to believe in astrology, but smart enough to run the world (albeit a jacked system)
Like I've said, generic horoscopes are generic. If you can get past the social stigma and study true astrology you'll see it's a source of vast wisdom. For ages men who have an understanding of the the mathematical precision that the stars and the universe move with and the effect that it has on consciousness always end up on top and at the front.
For all the nay sayers I challenge y'all to create a natal chart and get back to me.
If you aren't willing to do that before forming an opinion, the situation speaks for itself.
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What's the history of astrology? I don't like to knock things without an understanding.
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Agreed. That link was more so for the chart generator.As previously stated, it's tedious work. You either gotta learn to understand it for yourself or be willing to fork over the cash. From a merchant stand point they're gonna use the Barnum effect to their advantage and draw people in with with wording they'd wanna hear. Who wants to pay someone to tell them that they suck as a person?
In regards to twins I think you're still approaching it from a broad perspective. Just because two people share a zodiac doesn't mean they're going to be even remotely similar and that's actually one of the common misconceptions about astrology.
In regard to twins, they're still gonna have different horoscopes albeit probably pretty similar. Your natal chart is a snap shot of the solar system when you're born. No one can be born in the exact same time and place as you. Again I reference the fingerprint analogy.
Another misconception I see is that because people are a _____ they behave and have things in their life that a _______would have. And not to say that isn't true, but the goal of understanding astrology and the zodiac is to transcend all of them. You may enter your understanding of the universe with a Pisces point of view, but eventually you should evolve to the point where you're able to pick and choose the energies of the zodiac best suited for the situation.
They tried to convey this with Jesus (sun) and his 12 disciples (zodiacs) through allegory. Unfortunately many have took it literally.
M Mark Antony
Since man has been on the planet, astrology and stars have been part of culture. Most, if not all religions are cosmic events told through allegory.
The majority of your body's mass is star dust.
Even now, Washington DC is fashioned after Nile valley civilizations who had extreme reverence for the stars.
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You sound like a religious person speaking to non believers
"Read the bible and pray about it before you form your opinion."
So now I have to read every religious text known to man to be able to state a valid opinion
Astrology is intriguing but we barely understand anything even with the most recent technological advancements. It's a science of continual corrections of misinterpretations made by previous astrologers.
To think we (humans) hold some sort of importance above other species in the universe (and that we understand it via horoscopes/natal charts) is incredibly naive. We are nothing.
Do chickens, frogs, insects, microbes, have natal charts too?
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Astrology is real....DAILY horoscopes not so much..
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It hasn't said anything about me winning the lotto. So, I'm sold.
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Curious how I sound like a religious zealot when the majority of my conversation has been geared towards pushing people towards mathematics and science? If you wanna form an opinion before taking the intitiative to understand it, that's on you. Religion included. And I'm not religious at all, but I understand despite my personal feelings towards it, condemning it won't erase the fact that religion is the infrastructure for most people's psychology and that's something I have to deal with when interacting with people on a daily basis.
Same thing with society. Wether you think it's "real" or not, America was devised with a thorough understanding of Astrology in mind. Benjamin Banneker who advised the "Founding Fathers" on how to build a society/country was a profound astrologer.
From my perspective I'd rather have a firm understanding of how things work, then being moved from one "random" event to the next.
It's simple stuff man. Start with what you know. Stars are gas and light. Look at the immediate effect of those elements in your life. Someone farts and it stinks, instant mental change. You're sleeping and someone turns on the light in a dark room, instant mental and physiological change. Is it hard to believe that those same elements from a distant origin in the galaxy may have an insidious effect on you? Especially considering the ozone is just a complex combination of gas and light.
But I get it, you like me, were probably conditioned to learn in a 12 grade system patterned after the 12 zodiacs to condition your thought process to function on a clearly left brain basis and amass as much as possible of the illusionary atom.
And that's why the foundation of your understanding is flawed. You think this is the apex of humanity, when in actuality it's the nadir. Astrology would remedy that. Check out the Kali Yuga for those who interested.
And NO I'm not advocating that astrolgoy is the cure all for of humanity's woes, but it is a real science with tangible measurements. An elementary understanding of it can be raised up with correct knowledge and application, to give the beneficiary a hawk's eye view of cosmological events. Hence the zoomorphism prevelant in ancient mythology.
And while you're trying to be funny, yea even a microbe, chicken, frog or whatever biological entity you wanna list has a natal chart. But you'd have to get passed the left brained and brain washed way of thinking to understand that consciousness supersedes physical existence and employs the materials of the universe most conducive to provide a physical existence for what we call life.
With all that said, I'm just passing time on a slow night and dropping a few things for those who have the eyes to see and ears to listen.
You're entitled to your opinion undoubtedly. If it works for you press on brother.
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@hallywoodxo your preaching to a choir that ain't og nike talk. I been here since 05, so it takes a mofo who actually lived, and knows what horoscopes mean to get it. They laugh with miniscule knowledge of what knowledge truly is. U got 24 yr olds who get offended when u card them, so this soft 2009+nktalk wouldn't get complex real world knowledge that takes more than a wiki search amd reply button to get it. Any1 who takes offense is the prime example. Horoscopes isn't just about predicting the future or life, but the people you put in your life, the compatibility and days of the yr. It's complex but just like anything, needs moderation. Immersing yourself will overdo it. Under stand your sign (I've had that book posted since 2011), know you're personality, know the moons amd slowly delve.
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Hell no
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No. It's pseudoscience at best
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How come every single woman in the world patterns her life after this ****??
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Not be sexist, but I believe it is because women are more in tune with emotions and feelings (generally speaking), rather the logic and hard fact. This might explain why black women are the most religious group in the US.
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"You don't believe that your personality is based on arbitrary and incorrect psuedo-astronomy or the month you were born in = you soft"
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they use it to to excuse their personality flaws i.e Leos think they can just be a ***** then when/if conffronted on their behavior point out theyare Leos as if it's automatic and they have no say in it
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Curious how I sound like a religious zealot when the majority of my conversation has been geared towards pushing people towards mathematics and science? If you wanna form an opinion before taking the intitiative to understand it, that's on you. Religion included. And I'm not religious at all, but I understand despite my personal feelings towards it, condemning it won't erase the fact that religion is the infrastructure for most people's psychology and that's something I have to deal with when interacting with people on a daily basis.
Same thing with society. Wether you think it's "real" or not, America was devised with a thorough understanding of Astrology in mind. Benjamin Banneker who advised the "Founding Fathers" on how to build a society/country was a profound astrologer.
From my perspective I'd rather have a firm understanding of how things work, then being moved from one "random" event to the next.
It's simple stuff man. Start with what you know. Stars are gas and light. Look at the immediate effect of those elements in your life. Someone farts and it stinks, instant mental change. You're sleeping and someone turns on the light in a dark room, instant mental and physiological change. Is it hard to believe that those same elements from a distant origin in the galaxy may have an insidious effect on you? Especially considering the ozone is just a complex combination of gas and light.
But I get it, you like me, were probably conditioned to learn in a 12 grade system patterned after the 12 zodiacs to condition your thought process to function on a clearly left brain basis and amass as much as possible of the illusionary atom.
And that's why the foundation of your understanding is flawed. You think this is the apex of humanity, when in actuality it's the nadir. Astrology would remedy that. Check out the Kali Yuga for those who interested.
And NO I'm not advocating that astrolgoy is the cure all for of humanity's woes, but it is a real science with tangible measurements. An elementary understanding of it can be raised up with correct knowledge and application, to give the beneficiary a hawk's eye view of cosmological events. Hence the zoomorphism prevelant in ancient mythology.
And while you're trying to be funny, yea even a microbe, chicken, frog or whatever biological entity you wanna list has a natal chart. But you'd have to get passed the left brained and brain washed way of thinking to understand that consciousness supersedes physical existence and employs the materials of the universe most conducive to provide a physical existence for what we call life.
With all that said, I'm just passing time on a slow night and dropping a few things for those who have the eyes to see and ears to listen.
You're entitled to your opinion undoubtedly. If it works for you press on brother.
I think you misunderstood what I said. I'm not calling you a religious zealot. I'm drawing parallels to your logic of if I don't read about natal charts and dragon tails then I should "press on" because it's "working for me" (a passive aggressive way of calling me ignorant), to a conversation I had with a Mormon the other day. I was asking him why he thinks one religion (Mormonism) is superior to others, and why are the other religions wrong (or less correct). He told me I won't know until I read the Book of Mormon and pray about it. So what I'm saying is even though I disagree with you, you won't deem my opinion valid until I read these natal charts. I grew up in a religious household. Much of my moral fiber is based on christian values. I don't have anything against religious people, but when someone doesn't agree with them their go-to move is "read the bible then form your opinion."
I also think you misunderstood my interpretation of astrology. I'm not minimizing it's influence on our society or human beings. I don't know anything about the Benjamin Bennaker thing, but those times weren't too far off from when everyone thought the world was flat. I'm not trying to diminish any science they may have used to, but I do think that agricultural science had more to do with building the country/society than astrology. I'm a farmer so maybe I'm a little bit bias. I bring thousands of plants (living beings) to life every single day. If I start a basil seed today and a basil seed in 6 months, there is absolutely no difference in it's growth pattern, phenological expression, or yield between the two dates (assuming all other variables are equal - some of my growing is done in controlled environments). You might be one of those people that believe that the seed germination rate depends on the moon, but I can tell you from first hand experience that it does not.
That's an interesting view on light and gas and our perception, I never looked at it quite that way. But no it is not hard to believe that they have an effect on us. But this is where you assumed wrong and took my words out of context again. As a WHOLE, I believe our world as we know it may be influenced by them. However, I do not believe in these defined, premeditated roles for INDIVIDUALS that are known as horoscopes. When you break up the WHOLE you get several INDIVIDUALS, but you really think that we as humans are capable of understanding that? I don't. So about your comment about me thinking this is the apex of humanity...I have no clue where you got that. It could be something you regurgitate whenever someone challenges you on this subject. Apex or nadir...I have no effing clue. I think we (humans) don't matter at all on the grand scheme of things. So what horoscopes do is define HUMAN personalities and tendencies, not the billions of other organisms on our planet or in our galaxy. Why are we more important than the others? We aren't...
I'll take the brain washed, sheeple, ignorant, left-brained jabs that you conveniently dish out to someone with opposing views. That's fine. Maybe your natal chart told you it was your responsibility to do that.
BTW I looked at my natal chart from the link you posted. Some of it fits, some of it doesn't. Exactly as expected.
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More or less. I've provided hard science and measurable effects for people to have discussion over. Instead people keep wanting to post jokes about ricky dink daily horoscopes found in the newspaper or cosmopolitan magazine. We get it, it's corny. Usually fake, and extremely generic.
But as y'all would say, there's levels to this stuff.
Can we discuss how when Pluto entered Capricorn in 2008 we saw the first black president?
Can we discuss why America was designed with astrology in mind, and for more or less has been the top country for the past few hundred years?
Can we discuss how every sublime civilization has had a special reverence for astrology?
Can we discuss the 12 grade school system patterned after the zodiac?
Can we discuss the effects of mercury in retro grade?
Can we discuss crime rates going up on a full moon? Since y'all like to bash women so much, can we discuss how women's psychology changes when they're on the menstrual cycle which is patterned after the lunar cycle ?
Can we discuss the implications of NASA classifying Pluto as not a planet?
Can we discuss how thanksgiving just arbitrarily falls on a date, yearly, that is the transition for Scorpio to Sagittarius?
Can we discuss how damn near the same movies come out every year almost on cue and people line up not thinking twice about it ready to fork over there $?
But most of y'all have outed yourself as mental midgets and used this as opportunity to talk down on women. Yet y'all are probably the same dudes either hounding chicks on social media, or talking down on some morality tip cause they're able to provide for themselves just by living their life's and sharing it.
But that's what happens in the transition of an age. Yin and Yang always balance themselves out. The yin is re-establishing itself as the yangs equal. Aquarian is feminine so this is to be expectected.
I'll say this and I'm done. Mathematics are the supreme ruler of the universe. If you can account for all variables in an equation, you can pretty much figure out the the outcome to any phenomenon. Astrology, science, economics, sneaker resell.... It doesn't matter.
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Ive said this b4 but
If the human race were wiped out....and millions of years later a new race popped up....EVENTUALLY they would discover the same sciences....biology.....mathematics....etc.
I dont think they would "discover" the same religions if any at all.
BUT....the stars are always there if u know wat im saying.
The reason im skeptical about astrology is that someones life experiences can shape them individually imho.
I think its possible for a persons personality to be predetermined. ....but i also think the opposite of that.
If the human race were wiped out....and millions of years later a new race popped up....EVENTUALLY they would discover the same sciences....biology.....mathematics....etc.
I dont think they would "discover" the same religions if any at all.
BUT....the stars are always there if u know wat im saying.
The reason im skeptical about astrology is that someones life experiences can shape them individually imho.
I think its possible for a persons personality to be predetermined. ....but i also think the opposite of that.
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