Legends of Tomorrow Thread (tv show) -S2 Premieres 10/13/16

It was Tennant and Smith that wanted to leave though, Capaldi probably feels his too old now and his opportunities aren't there anymore so he's going to stay as long as he can. :lol:
 
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DC’s Legends of Tomorrow  “Pilot” episode, it’s so cheesy that it’s endearing. It’s like one of those mid 90’s Sci-Fi Channel (before it was Syfy) B movies that would air at 3am. Doctor Who  meets the Guardians of The Galaxy, but on a shoestring budget! The thing is, you have absolutely no idea whether it’s tongue-in-cheek or really bad production. That’s what keeps you tuned in. Hot female characters with token feminist moments. The middle-aged guy who’s the coy loner, spouting off tawdry one-liners, that some poor 40 year old accounts payable team leader believes will sound awesome repeated in real life. And the “cool” black guy, that’s there to act “black”. There’s a cynic in all of us, and mine silently snickered like Kermit the Frog while watching this episode.

A maniac who’s survived throughout history by waging war from the shadows, has emerged in the 22nd century and is wreaking havoc. Maverick time-traveler Rip Hunter (Arthur Darvill), has assembled a team of misfits from 2016 to save his world, and become “legends of tomorrow”. Hunter literally tells them to not be concerned about their lives if they chose to decline, because he’s seen their futures and they die useless individuals.
 

There’s a pretty convincing opening scene where you’re like, “this is gonna be good”. Our villain, Vandal Savage (Casper Crump), blasts away an 8 year old in cold blood and you’re like, “that ******* is merciless, he has to die”. If the show had kept this pace, and adopted the Arrow’s flashback/flash-forward format, it may have had the traction Flash has. There’s just too many derailing subplots and choppy sequences. The time could’ve been used developing the show’s debut characters.

Overall, Legends of Tomorrow is worth the watch if you’re not the overcritical type. Sit back and enjoy some laughs, their ship looks like a cross between Doc Brown’s Delorean, the Millennium Falcon, and a shop fridge in an oil change garage. Seriously, the show isn’t bad as it sounds through this scope. But if you’re looking for CW’s The Flash, or Arrow  level entertainment you’ll be disappointed.

DC’s Legends of Tomorrows  airs Thursdays 8/7c on the CW.
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^^ :lol: at comparing it to Arrow

LoT is not as good as Flash but Arrow has been a crappy show for a while now
 
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I haven't watched the last 3-4 arrow episodes. Caught up on flash though, this season has been good but confusing with more of the timeline stuff.
 
It was another coool ep.

Hope this show doesn't rely heavily on characters messing with their own timelines and Rip constantly being like you guys should listen to me I'm a Time Lord *rage* blah blah :lol:

Also since this is team show they need a good reason to have them all fighting in these big set pieces against an army of bad guys to warrant all the explosions and what not. The nuke was just insanely wild. That's an international incident :lol: :smh:

Happy Hawkguy is dead, I agree dude was annoying with all of the destiny crap but I just genuinely didn't care for dude.
 
He just wanted to get inbetween those sweet, caramel lips.

Rip just seems to chill on the ship a lot. It is a pretty cool ship.
 
this show is great so far, love the character dynamics and how everyone is having fun

sara on this show is already >>>>> all her seasons on arrow 
 
Word episode 2 was cool. I aint even think Sara was that bad in Arrow but she looking righteous. The cast is funny

Lmao at the younger version of the old dude "cool let's go smoke a doobie and talk"
 
still shocked at how cartoonish that button on the nuke was

just a big red button and 2 minute timer 
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My brother and I were watching and wondering why it was just one button. He said they should push it again to see if it'd turn off.
 
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Someone explain to me why doesn't Stein have memories of being on this super space ship? Or does his character go down a new timeline?
 
I knew I would love this show
Kendra was lookin kinda right in this episode
I just found out Jefferson is British. Had no idea.
 
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Mr Cashfl0w said:
Someone explain to me why doesn't Stein have memories of being on this super space ship? Or does his character go down a new timeline?
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Physics? Theoretically, your body is matter traveling through time. Time already exists, with or without you.  When you travel through it to see your younger self, your younger self is a totally independent body mass in that time. You just injected yourself into that time and space. So while Stein will have memories of the event, his younger self will not.

Remember X-Men: Days of Future Past? Wolverine retained the memories because he made the jump through time.
 
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:lol: That still doesn't explain it to me.

I don't see what independent bodies of mass existing in the same space and time as your future self have to do with not remembering an experience with a huge invisible ship, meeting some weirdos that knocked you out and tried to steal your invention, etc.
 
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Master Zik said:
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That still doesn't explain it to me.
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Let's say me and you traveled in time. 

We visit a young Master Zik playing at the beach, building a sand castle.

Since the two Ziks are separate entities, we could kick young Zik's sand castle over and laugh.

Zik will cry, and Zik of that time stream would have those memories, he may even be emotionally affected by those memories.

While they may shape Future Zik's decisions and  future outcomes, you two will still have separate memories of the event.

When you return to your time as "present Zik", things may be different around you but you will exist in that time shaped by "sand castle Zik's" decisions.


...remember when Stein told his younger self, "watch the saturate fat"? He was trying to affect his health in the present.



 
 
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Master Zik said:
:lol: That still doesn't explain it to me.
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Let's say me and you traveled in time. 

We visit a young Master Zik playing at the beach, building a sand castle.


Since the two Ziks are separate entities, we could kick young Zik's sand castle over and laugh.


Zik will cry, and Zik of that time stream would have those memories, he may even be emotionally affected by those memories.


While they may shape Future Zik's decisions and  future outcomes, you two will still have separate memories of the event.


When you return to your time as "present Zik", things may be different around you but you will exist in that time shaped by "sand castle Zik's" decisions.



...remember when Stein told his younger self, "watch the saturate fat"? He was trying to affect his health in the present.
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Yeah but when I become present Zik what happened to the Zik in the past that experienced those events at the beach? The one that grew up and lived a life up until I returned?

What you're sort of describing is what happened to Marty McFly in Back To the Future 2 when Biff benefitted from the sports almanac, ran everything, married Marty's mom, and Marty had no clue how things came to be but the Marty from that timeline was raised in that altered time and for w/e reason ceased to exist when Marty came back from the future.

At least I now get what you're saying, I just don't get the altered version of your past self being replaced or ceasing to exist once you return from time traveling to your present. It creates a scenario where you're living a life where you have no idea of the experiences that version of yourself went through. It's akin to traveling to an alternate universe and assuming the life of that version of yourself with not much internal info on what that version went through

FTR, a young Zik would've probably killed you creating a grim time loop.

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Reminds me of this :lol:

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I remember these eps :pimp: Funny part was when Jon Stewart GL just turned in to Hal Jordan :lol:

I took the Marvel approach to time travel with this though. The JL didn't time travel to their definite future, they traveled to an alternate albeit possible future timeline which is why older Bruce had no recollection.

It addresses a similar scenario with time travel in general. Once you time travel to the past or future you create an alternate timeline where you have disappeared in the present for w/e duration of time you have time traveled unless you return to the moment you left which also creates timelines where you never returned at all.

Of course DC does time travel real differently which I've never fully tried to understand in every instance it's been brought up.
 
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Time travel makes things so complicated and can create so many plot holes with lazy writing

So far I think Dr Who does it best

Watched 70 percent of that show and I don't think I've ever spotted a plot hole
 
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It's easy to not make time travel complicated. Just establish your time travel rules and make it clear.

Flash and therefore this show have made certain things vague. So far though, this shows seems like it'll come up with more explanations and terms for the versions of time travel they keep introducing. I mean Flash has Wells to bring up stuff like "time remnant" but Rip and Gideon just be info dumping time travel terms. That whole stuff cuz Atom's tech got studied and all of a sudden 2016's Central City is on fire.
 
Watching yesterday's episode.. Palmer already destroyed Central City in 2016.. :smh:

Rookie mistake.. :rofl:
 
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