Lil Uzi Vert Thread - "Pink Tape" Out June 30th!

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Originally Posted by DOCTOR LOVE  

I'm going to disagree here personally. At 30...I come across young ****** everyday on Soundcloud that are making GREAT **** across the board while being creative and innovative without being stuck in the 90s but they not on their super ****** **** using the same flows and rehashing the same tired *** cookie cutter trap sound. They're out there.

Hell yeah I definitely agree bro. There are thousands of young _'s out there making the type of music that older cats could and would appreciate and that goes for every genre. I said literally this exact thing in that thread a couple weeks back were dude was saying he hates 97% of rap today.

It just seems like for the most part instead seeking them out, _'s would rather constantly talk about the **** they don't like as if these few artists in this sub-genre are representative of all rap being made today.

Is it trendy/popular? yeah but the popular trendy **** has never been the totality of the genre tho so idk why _'s wanna act like that's the case today. **** is hella weird to me

Edit: I guess my point is there's always gonna be young _'s doing **** that the older cats don't like, that's how **** has always been, nothing new. Constantly coming in to threads of _'s making music that you already  know you dont like to tell _'s you hate the music and compare them to the greatest of the genre does nothing but make you look old and bitter

 

[capital sb]

WOW yal doing all this over Uzi lmao don't ever look up Lil Boat/Lil Yatchy

 

[cashbanks]

cashbanks Bruh you gotta be the most bitter _ in the music forum

The way the older hip hop fans criticize rap is the same way all the older rockstars and their fans criticize rock music today. Older Country music artists/fans? Same ****.

You noticing a trend here or do I need to go on?

Cultural evolution is inevitable. Every generation finds their way of expressing themselves and a lot of the time it involves pushing the boundaries and going against the preferences of those who came before.

The young _'s today are prolly gonna hate the music the new young _'s are making in 10-15 years. It is what it is

My man garbage is garbage, and if i feel the need to speak on it I will.

Ya keep trying to come up with every reason for why this isn't absolute trash but it is.

Dude is mumbling nothing this isn't some old man disconnect, it's just a dude making trash and me being real about it.

 

[D.Josey]

WOW yal doing all this over Uzi lmao don't ever look up Lil Boat/Lil Yatchy

Lol at Yachty.

Lol at the old man circle jerk this thread has become.

 

[trynafeelmink]

In a way it is an age disconnect... and imo there's nothing wrong with that. I'm 27 i've rocked with a lot of trap rap over the years, but this new wave of dyed haired, drugged up, come in the booth and just say the first thing that comes to their head just ain't built for me and neither is 90% of the crowd who enjoys this ****.

I came to this realization the other day, this culture that they are representing point blank isn't for me. It comes a point where you just gotta embrace it , a lot of lame **** is going down with these dudes right now imo and it's not something i wanna be close too so i keep my distance.

 

[Peep Game]

So what's wrong with this?

"You ****** like music. Young young dumb *** ******." 

If Ye/Wayne/Pain came out tomorrow and said this autotune over hard beats wave they started was to be called something else other than rap, would y'all still be mad?

It seems like the outrage isn't over the actual music but moreso these outdated rules of rap y'all have.

And to be honest, Thug and Uzi aren't even slouches lyrically. A lot of new ****** just pronounce or say **** a certain way. Which is why people may think Future, Thug or Uzi just spitting gibberish. Chance doesn't get the label of not being lyrical but a lot of times he has the same problem on the first listen you might not be able to understand what he says because of his accent/way of speaking and you gotta go back and listen. Thug is slick nice with the metaphors.

As far as Uzi and Thug being on the sus ****, I can't speak on what another man does behind closed doors but both of them got girls that they proudly put all over social media. We also can't act like ****** wasn't rocking bell bottoms and open shirts and jheri curls in the 70's and 80's. Baggy/non-tight clothes are relatively shortlived in black fashion, from the early 90's to late 2000's, they really were only the style of choice for

 

[larry david]

Somebody tell these square *** n_'s that them saying something is garbage 20x without actually illustrating some logic behind their opinions isn't going to change anyone's mind.

trynafeelmink is the only dude that's said something that's respectable and worth responding to. To which I'll say, I understand what you're saying but what kind of culture is Uzi embrassing that your favorite artist isn't outside of the way he dresses? (Which I never understood why what another man wears can dictate how you feel about his music, it's like me saying Russell Westbrook is bunz because of his fu-fu clothing choices.)

 

[trilluminated]

i'm 28 and i rock with UZI heavy..

made a million by myseeeeelf..

 

[RIP sleazyy]

i'm 28 and i rock with UZI heavy..


made a million by myseeeeelf..

27 and same. Don't get why it's so serious.

 

[larry david]

i'm 28 and i rock with UZI heavy..


made a million by myseeeeelf..

27 and same. Don't get why it's so serious.

It's really not, dudes is clearly upset about another aspect of their life to continue to go in on someone who's apparently trash at their art and will never even know of their existence.

 

[broncos19dm]

I just like his music 

 

[trynafeelmink]

Somebody tell these square *** n_'s that them saying something is garbage 20x without actually illustrating some logic behind their opinions isn't going to change anyone's mind.

trynafeelmink is the only dude that's said something that's respectable and worth responding to. To which I'll say, I understand what you're saying but what kind of culture is Uzi embrassing that your favorite artist isn't outside of the way he dresses? (Which I never understood why what another man wears can dictate how you feel about his music, it's like me saying Russell Westbrook is bunz because of his fu-fu clothing choices.)

Honestly it's just the culture of blatantly not giving a **** about rap. There is so lil effort being made and the bar is so low for some of these dudes that i just can't rock with it. Future probably been one of my favorites in the south since the FBG tape & he has a similar subject matter. but imo he conveys it much better, puts actual effort into it & therefore the music last and it's potent.

Where as a lot of these newer cats ain't focusing on nothing and it makes the music immediately disposable, like i can turn on a mixtape & literally hear 10 tracks from 10 different artist and it's just real generic and bland. It's just an EXTREME amount of originality in the sound, and you couple that in with dudes literally not saying anything lyrically, it's like the music just serves no purpose to me.

 

[alexody]

Honestly it's just the culture of blatantly not giving a **** about rap. There is so lil effort being made and the bar is so low for some of these dudes that i just can't rock with it. Future probably been one of my favorites in the south since the FBG tape & he has a similar subject matter. but imo he conveys it much better, puts actual effort into it & therefore the music last and it's potent.

Where as a lot of these newer cats ain't focusing on nothing and it makes the music immediately disposable, like i can turn on a mixtape & literally hear 10 tracks from 10 different artist and it's just real generic and bland. It's just an EXTREME amount of originality in the sound, and you couple that in with dudes literally not saying anything lyrically, it's like the music just serves no purpose to me.

Kendrick tho

 

[trynafeelmink]

What exactly does kendrick have to do with anything.

 

[Magic33]

I never understand why you young ****** thinking being "super lyrical" means rapping the dictionary.

It's plenty of ******...young and old that can rap...and they not rapping the dictionary. Being lyrical just means having an intricate understanding of wordplay, having pointed thoughts. It's a SKILL. That's why ****** always like to go the extreme end of the spectrum by tossing out names like Lupe Fiasco. Every ***** that can rap isn't Lupe. You don't have to be on some rappity rap **** to be considered a good rapper. Take someone like Dom for example. He isn't some super intricate rapper...but he's not ******ed either.

But alot of these ****** ya'll put on pedestal AINT SAYING ****. Ya'll are buying into the melodies and the instrumentation...because that's essentially what MUSIC is at it's core. Melodies resonate with us on a deeper level. That's why they teach kids their ABCs using melodies. You consciously have a total disconnect with the actual rapping but subconsciously you ****** are eating this **** up.

These ****** out here on some super misogynistic, borderline "I hate women"...super suspect...****** putting dye in their hair and dancing like powder puffs and rocking torn up leggings and ****...saying the most ridiculous **** on record but as long as the flows is catchy and the beat rocking...it's all game.

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[Magic33]

In a way it is an age disconnect... and imo there's nothing wrong with that. I'm 27 i've rocked with a lot of trap rap over the years, but this new wave of dyed haired, drugged up, come in the booth and just say the first thing that comes to their head just ain't built for me and neither is 90% of the crowd who enjoys this ****.

I came to this realization the other day, this culture that they are representing point blank isn't for me. It comes a point where you just gotta embrace it , a lot of lame **** is going down with these dudes right now imo and it's not something i wanna be close too so i keep my distance.

I count it as a subgenre

Rap has been around long enough where we need to start developing them

 

[trynafeelmink]

I count it as a subgenre

Rap has been around long enough where we need to start developing them

I have been against it for awhile, but i'm starting to see why because "Rap" is at a point where A lot of "rappers" don't rap. there's like two completely different skill sets involved.

 

[Magic33]

I don't see how you could of ever been a fan of the Philly rap scene..If you think all these down south clones coming out of the city right now is better..And that philly sound is never dated..I can go back and listen to 1000 bars from beans or an freestyle from vodka..Its still a 100x better then uzi..

And that's not to say he's bad..He has a lane..I like a couple joints...but I definitely prefer 98-05 philly rappers than now..

Philly still has people who can rap, from Chris to Spade to Reed or Cyssero and Young Hot and Haddy.

It's just that now young kids are going to go for what will get you popular or a record deal/money now. Just like how kids started rapping like Meek and now like Thug

You right i never really was cuz it was too repetitive. Most of the dudes i remember from back then after Beans, Free and all them bigger dudes faded, all sounded too similar to me. Like they all had bars & aggression but didnt know how to make complete songs. Not saying this era great, i just welcome the change in sound. Thats all. After all this time of hearing Philly dudes rap the way they did, it is really odd to hear them switch styles like this. Never expected it. Tbh this city should have way more talent than it shows smh

Im from Philly & i know this may sound crazy but im glad the city changed its sound. Them other dudes was sounding dated af. Freestyles like it was still 05 or something. Not a fan of the blatant ATL riding but at least its different

Wish GrandeMarshall was bigger, he has a cool but different Philly street sound to him. Im gon keep bringing dude name up whenever i see its fitting cuz he deserves more recognition

Dated

Having lyrics and rapping about something is sounding dated? Pretty soon you dudes are going to be entertained by dudes humming.

 

[alexody]

What exactly does kendrick have to do with anything.

Kendrick gives a **** about rap
Kendrick puts forth the effort and raises the bar

I didn't know you was talking bout Future which basically negates your whole argument. I rock with Future heavy but the man basically goes in the booth and says whatever, dude is just a gawd at melodies. Uzi ain't better than Future but besides production the guy has his own sound crafted.

The South is famous for not giving a **** tho, so I'm not surprised. Crunk, Ringtone, Trap, Futuristic and nowadays the Thug/Future influenced rap of today, the South has had a history of meaningless music (don't mean you can't rock wit it).

 

[trynafeelmink]

Kendrick gives a **** about rap
Kendrick puts forth the effort and raises the bar

I didn't know you was talking bout Future which basically negates your whole argument. I rock with Future heavy but the man basically goes in the booth and says whatever, dude is just a gawd at melodies. Uzi ain't better than Future but besides production the guy has his own sound crafted.

The South is famous for not giving a **** tho, so I'm not surprised. Crunk, Ringtone, Trap, Futuristic and nowadays the Thug/Future influenced rap of today, the South has had a history of meaningless music (don't mean you can't rock wit it).

this is where we disagree, although there are future songs where he's just spazzing on some wild ****... I legit have a complete separate 30 song playlist of songs where there is actual lyrical content & focus. surely he ain't dropping crazy complex verses, but it's just real relatable ****. future has bars that have a way of sticking with you (even when he's on some SUPER ignorant **** ) . Add that along with his melodies, variety of sounds he excels at & his delivery i see a BIG difference between him & this new wave.

Like Keef is another ***** who just displays the difference i'm talkin about, He was never lyrical but his words were precise, the delivery was good & the sound was distinct (Finally Rich era), fast forward a few years this dude is literally high out his mind mumbling and trying to harmonize everything and it sounds Terrible.

 

[Peep Game]

Somebody tell these square *** n_'s that them saying something is garbage 20x without actually illustrating some logic behind their opinions isn't going to change anyone's mind.

trynafeelmink is the only dude that's said something that's respectable and worth responding to. To which I'll say, I understand what you're saying but what kind of culture is Uzi embrassing that your favorite artist isn't outside of the way he dresses? (Which I never understood why what another man wears can dictate how you feel about his music, it's like me saying Russell Westbrook is bunz because of his fu-fu clothing choices.)

Honestly it's just the culture of blatantly not giving a **** about rap. There is so lil effort being made and the bar is so low for some of these dudes that i just can't rock with it. Future probably been one of my favorites in the south since the FBG tape & he has a similar subject matter. but imo he conveys it much better, puts actual effort into it & therefore the music last and it's potent.

Where as a lot of these newer cats ain't focusing on nothing and it makes the music immediately disposable, like i can turn on a mixtape & literally hear 10 tracks from 10 different artist and it's just real generic and bland. It's just an EXTREME amount of originality in the sound, and you couple that in with dudes literally not saying anything lyrically, it's like the music just serves no purpose to me.

Agree with this big time. For every 1 Future that is actually appealing, there's an exponential amount of guys trying to do what he does and completely failing at it (Desiigner is a major outlier ). Just click on a random tape you're not familiar with on datpiff or livemixtapes. No doubt that person is gonna either sound like a variant Future, or variant Migo member.

As far as points in your other posts, being lyrical definitely isn't all about spitting the thesaurus like Canibus, You can simply be great at telling stories, or just making complete songs. Also, some of the best artists have make some downright terrible songs, just like bad/mediocre/1 dimensional artists can make good music. Eminem is probably one of the greatest rappers ever, yet has been so mediocre for more than a decade outside of freestyles and spot appearances, and his production has taken a nosedive. Chief Keef and Migos are pretty 1 dimensional and repetitive artists, yet have made a lot of good stuff strictly staying in their lane. They can be considered the standouts in their lane, yet other guys in their same lane either don't do what they do nearly as well, or are completely trash (Rich The Kid, Lil Yatchy, and Ballout :x :x :x :x :x)

I count it as a subgenre

Rap has been around long enough where we need to start developing them

I have been against it for awhile, but i'm starting to see why because "Rap" is at a point where A lot of "rappers" don't rap. there's like two completely different skill sets involved.

I don't see why there hasn't been subgenres in rap on a more publicized scale. For outsiders (specifically people who's sole knowledge of rap is what's on tv/radio), all rap is the same. To them, Drake, Gucci Mane, Slaughterhouse, and Asap Rocky are all the same sound, when that couldn't be further from the truth.

 

[alexody]

That's the thing tho
Im pretty u can make a play list of more than 30 songs but fam still mixes drugs and women in dere but what yu don't mind in that others do which is why he fits perfectly in that category

Dem idiots in the Desiigner thread are an example of that

 

[phar0]

he dropping something today 

LIL UZI VERT VS THE WORLD 

 

[riverdale road]

He dropped it. On his soundcloud

 

[broncos19dm]

Need to listen