Two NYPD cops shot in the BX

That's wassup.

Speak your mind Steezy. I'm sure people are appreciating your POV.

Keep the community buzzin bro...
 
There's no difference dude, you are now just posting convenient excuses. No one HAS to do ANYTHING. That's the whole point of the system, no one is held accountable. I wasn't even talking about big pharma when I mentioned doctors, that's a separate issue. Believe it or not physicians actually have very little to say when it come to pharmaceutical companies. There are many other ways doctors harm minorities.....neglect, less than stellar care, psychological abuse, refusal of care and just plain murder.


Nurses are unionized and studies show that nurses treat poor and minority patients differently which affects outcome, no outrage against white nurses.




What about in finance/banking? Banks who refuse to give loans to minorities forcing them into a system of poverty, where is the outrage? 


What about housing and real estate?



My point is there's nothing unique about the police, they are just a glamorous target. You can put a face to the bullet so to speak. 


Big pharma relies on physicians for R&D. They get feedback from independent hospital review boards that are conducting clinical trials for new drugs.


So big pharma makes sure they take care of those folks. We're getting into a different subject now, but doctors have the ability to be more influential than you believe in regards to their relationship with big pharma.



As for misconduct & neglect. My lady is a nurse so she can attest to witnessing such things. She got canned at a previous job because she got into it with another nurse who was being neglectful of her patients.


There's no denying that such things are prevalent, especially in minority communities.



Ditto on unfair housing practices. We've discussed this issue previously on NikeTalk. Obviously topics concerning the police are brought up far more often than these other subjects, but if you think that people are ignoring those subjects, you're wrong.



I didn't make this thread, in fact I rarely make threads. I simply replied. A discourse transpired, that's all.


If those other topics come up, I'll reply.
 
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Big pharma can do whatever they want. The average physician has no say in any of this. Most doctors don't get paid anymore if they give aleve vs. tylenol. Surgeons don't get most of their money from prescribing drugs. And if you're getting favors from pharm companies to prescribe one drug over the other it is illegal and many physicians get in trouble for it. Physicians involved in politics and management are not you average physician. 

Those topics never come up, because police shot Marcos and Marcos was shooting at him.


I wasn't talking about most doctors. I was talking about those who have the clout to actually have a say. Yes, I'm talking about "not your average physicians". :lol:


Many physicians get in trouble for prescribing one drug over the other, but many more get away with it scot-free and w/a nice token of appreciation from their drug reps.



Those topics don't come up because H2HKing never makes 'em :lol:.
 
But people here seem to have no qualms talking about most cops.


Right, again.


Maybe if cops de-unionized you'd have an apt argument.


If they abandoned the blue wall of silence code.


If they worked to change unconstitutional laws and policies, maybe.



But as it stands, it's not really a fitting parallel.
 
The union argument is a cowardly cop-out, no pun intended. Racists of all professions do not need a union to not be held accountable. Even if cops didn't have a union, the people that hirer the cops are racists, the people who try the cops are racist, the people who charge the cops are racist, the people who train the cops are racist.


Miss me with that. 


:lol: So you're going to downplay the amount of power police lobbies have in this nation?



Really?



Yes lets do away with the union aspect of the issue because it's far too inconvenient for you to make a valid counterpoint on.
 
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At some point if you're going to engage in ad hominem you have to naturally expect some back.
These philosophy 101 glossary terms have me dying over here
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Broken system isn't the same thing as a corrupt system that actively infringes on civil liberties and ignores the law. Individuals that actively engage and choose to be apart of that are not the same as individuals working within a broken system that at best gets over on the poor.
It not being the same does not mean it's any less unethical. Just look at the heroin epidemic the "medical" industry has created organically.
 
 
lol the medical industry didn't create the heroin epidemic, the U.S. government did. However, the prescription opiate epidemic is heavily perpetuated by doctors. 
I'm talking the present day epidemic. You know how many people started shooting dope because they couldn't afford to keep up with their oxycodone habit that began with a prescription? Something like 80%.
 
Thought you were done here.



Decided to cheerlead? Can't make your own arguments so you're resigned to cosign others?



Fair enough :lol:.

Got my blue pompoms on deck.

You keep looking like a clown tho...and yes we been done, ME and YOU that is :smile: I'll still be in this thread tho.
 
The police are a scapegoat for a lot of deep seeded issues in this country. The police are literally not killing people en masse like the media portrays it. The statistics are out there, the likelihood of being killed by the cops in this country is less than 0.00002 percent, and the likelihood of getting killed UNARMED is even less. My mistrusts for the police doesn't stem from fear of being killed at their hands, they are just one of many tools of institutionalized racism in this country. Unfortunately I cannot support the public and black people's blind scapegoatism of the police when there are politicians, doctors, lawyers, judges, neighbors, teachers, who have just as much blood on their hands. 


If you think all cops are the same, then all white people are the same and deserve death and no sympathy. 
This isn't just about cops killing certain ppl or ppl in general. I know I felt this way for a much longer time.

This is about how they treat those they're suppose to serve and protect. This is about the relationship they have with the community. It isn't a sudden thing. Been like this for decades.

Their studies coming out more and more about what type of ppl the NYPD are more likely to target and why. Those stop & frisk stats been out.

Stats about how they don't kill as many ppl really don't matter. Also sure other ppl have blood on their hands but that's not an excuse to pass the buck on to another profession. They'll all get their turn. Not to mention this is not just a black ppl thing. They just appear the most vocal about it.

I see no scapegoatism. Nobody is saying if NYPD or police nationwide all got their act together that racism wouldn't be ended.
 
Crazy part I've probably been harrassed and had probably more terrible experience with the NYPD growing up than some of you with the pitchforks in hand :lol:
 
Actually my last running with them was a positive one, I reversed down a one way street on my old block in Tremont and these two walking patrols pulled up to me and asked for my liscence, dudes had an attitude so I was ready to take the L :lol: dude came back and was like "I'm writing you 6 tickets" I was ready to spaz and he just laughed and said he was joking and I was good with a warning


I was surprised as hell....for sure I thought dudes was gonna hit me off with a summons.
 
Bleh, doctors are supposed to serve and protect they take an oath to do no harm and I know for a fact doctors kill more black people than the police.

Again no threads about politicians, judges, lawyers, real estate agents, banks....who create these environments where people are violent to survive and inevitably clash with law enforcement. But the pawns take the blame :smile:

They don't know that jut like cops, first responders in a hospital (doctors, RNs, therapist) will always protect each other in a sticky situation....dudes are acting as if this internal code is exclusive to cops :lol:
 
Crazy part I've probably been harrassed and had probably more terrible experience with the NYPD growing up than some of you with the pitchforks in hand :lol:
Anybody can say this.

With the way you portray yourself on here I can see why you would be so passive about the police harassing you though. So to put it simply you are you b don't worry about other ppl. That **** is unacceptable if it happens one time. This aint a competition about who got jammed up by the cops the most and is the least mad about it.
This isn't just about cops killing certain ppl or ppl in general. I know I felt this way for a much longer time.


This is about how they treat those they're suppose to serve and protect. This is about the relationship they have with the community. It isn't a sudden thing. Been like this for decades.


Their studies coming out more and more about what type of ppl the NYPD are more likely to target and why. Those stop


Bleh, doctors are supposed to serve and protect they take an oath to do no harm and I know for a fact doctors kill more black people than the police.

Again no threads about politicians, judges, lawyers, real estate agents, banks....who create these environments where people are violent to survive and inevitably clash with law enforcement. But the pawns take the blame :smile:
Doctors are scumbags and hospitals are death traps health wise and money wise.

Difference between the popo and a doctor is doctors can't harass you. Quite frankly, it's one thing to just kill somebody when they come in sick or dying it's a completely other thing to conduct repeated abusive patterns on specific groups of ppl.

But like I said to steezy and said to you before this aint a competition and they'll get theirs all the same.

Also don't be confused this wasn't a thread made to talk about why they hate the police. One poster shared his opinion and now instead of acting like it isn't an understandable viewpoint depending on where you live we're getting a lot of what about the individuals and what about this profession that kills black ppl more.

Feel free to make the thread about corruption in the legal system. Not sure how you could think NTers are silent on that. Been several threads about how privatized prisons is a business, corrupt judges in on the scheme, and countless innocent men doing decades in prisons being freed due to DNA evidence or by other means.

Same for politicians and the healthcare system threads. I guess you'd be surprised about the replies.
 
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sources?

I mean last time I checked heroin has always been an epidemic in this country but i may be wrong.
It has always been an epidemic to some extent, but NOTHING like what it is present day.

Not a coincidence.
 
In this thread I have learned SneakerHeathen is that special kind of person I hate. Who talks out of their *** and their primary comeback is to dance around a question without answering and talk louder than the other person, thinking this puts him into a more dominant position, therefore gives him the feeling he is winning the discussion.
 
People acting like the NYPD is about a step away from becoming the Gestapo.
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I think it's just "it" thing to do in today's culture honestly.

Policing philosophy needs to be drastically amended, yes.

But damn, wishing death or being indifferent to someone, anyone seemingly innocent of any wrongdoing being shot in cold blood? SMH. You are part of a bigger problem.
 
Actually my last running with them was a positive one, I reversed down a one way street on my old block in Tremont and these two walking patrols pulled up to me and asked for my liscence, dudes had an attitude so I was ready to take the L :lol: dude came back and was like "I'm writing you 6 tickets" I was ready to spaz and he just laughed and said he was joking and I was good with a warning


I was surprised as hell....for sure I thought dudes was gonna hit me off with a summons.
your experience is just that YOUR experience..
 
Anybody can say this.


With the way you portray yourself on here I can see why you would be so passive about the police harassing you though. So to put it simply you are you b don't worry about other ppl. That **** is unacceptable if it happens one time. This aint a competition about who got jammed up by the cops the most and is the least mad about it.

Doctors are scumbags and hospitals are death traps health wise and money wise.


Difference between the popo and a doctor is doctors can't harass you. Quite frankly, it's one thing to just kill somebody when they come in sick or dying it's a completely other thing to conduct repeated abusive patterns on specific groups of ppl.


But like I said to steezy and said to you before this aint a competition and they'll get theirs all the same.


Also don't be confused this wasn't a thread made to talk about why they hate the police. One poster shared his opinion and now instead of acting like it isn't an understandable viewpoint depending on where you live we're getting a lot of what about the individuals and what about this profession that kills black ppl more.


Feel free to make the thread about corruption in the legal system. Not sure how you could think NTers are silent on that. Been several threads about how privatized prisons is a business, corrupt judges in on the scheme, and countless innocent men doing decades in prisons being freed due to DNA evidence or by other means.


Same for politicians and the healthcare system threads. I guess you'd be surprised about the replies.


Hmm good we are progressing, I honestly don't thin you really care about what kills black people in this country. I am call all the police haters in here out, you don't care. You are more or less like those white people who think they can start a new hippie revolution. I have yet to see you create a thread about the housing system in this country. I have yet to see you create a thread about social determinants of health which kills more black people than the police. I have yet to see you create a thread about how uneducated your children are(i don't mean just black children, it trickles down :frown:.



But yea you're right, the police.
That because making a thread on NT is pointless (in the macros sense at least, on the micro other ppl reading may gain something). To think making a thread about it on here and discussing with yall is progress is to be deluded. If you honestly feel that's the difference maker I pity you. You're too far gone.

If a thread is made I might discuss it but if I don't show up that has no bearing on how I feel about it, if I care or what my view is on that topic. Not saying anything does not equal that one does not care.

R.I.P. threads are made in General A LOT. In my time on NT I've rarely posted in any of them even if the famous person's death has made me feel some type of way. I may have posted in 3 of them specifically lamenting their deaths. Why? Cuz posting R.I.P. in a thread is pointless. It means nothing other than showing other NTers that you too are also sad about this death. Does that mean all the ppl that didn't show up in there don't' give a ****? It'd be pretty ignorant to say yes. I'd rather spend my time talking about a movie or a comic, or in the Draya thread, or yes talking about the police.

The way I feel strongly about a given topic may not result in me making a thread about it cuz this is NT. I'm very familiar with most of you. If we're making threads just to go out of our way to show we care to other posters then this forum has leveled up in the attention whoring game. Cuz honestly that's all that really is. So if I feel strongly about a specific topic I may put that energy to use in a way you'll most likely never be aware of cuz you know NT isn't life. Just one part of it we spend our time on.

I come to NT General for the lulz and to discuss some topics I find interesting or important but I don't discuss everything I find interesting or important here. Some of those discussions may lead to arguments. No reason to think what one poster may argue the most about correlates to what they do in real life or what they most care about. My posts aren't the totality of my opinions on everything. To think so would be madness.

But if I did think the same way as you I could say the same about you when it came to other topics you don't make a thread about.
 
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