Is The, "It Is Disrespectful To Your Ancestors If You DON'T Vote" Logic Still Valid?

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Was talking to somebody about the presidential race yesterday and I told them that I probably won't vote because I don't trust ANY of these dudes. And they hit me with the, "Man people died so you could vote, you have to."

I said what am I voting for exactly? I am literally picking my own poison. I am sure they didn't die for THAT.

So yea, is this line of thinking that black people MUST vote because people died for us still valid?
 
A lot of people died so you can't vote too. Probably more since they lost. It's up to us to improve on the progress of our forefathers by creating a better system than representative democracy cronyism
 
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You are free to choose to vote. You are a strong, independent, and beautiful human being.
 
If you're not confident about who you're voting for or not familiar enough with the candidates' policies, then don't. Unless you're really worried about a particular candidate winning that would have a terrible effect on the country (example: Trump). In that case I would vote for the better option to help stop that from happening.

One of the worst laws we have here in Belgium is mandatory voting duty. Half of this country doesn't know **** about politics but they're forced to vote anyway, which is probably why our government is so terrible.

Be grateful for the ability to not vote.

Local elections are always important though and I do believe you should vote in all of them. They have a direct effect on your life.
 
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I'm undecided this year. All I've heard thus far has been useless rhetoric. I know my ancestral history through and through...they wouldn't be offended.
 
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Coming from a non-US context, yes.

Centuries under the British and you choose not to vote? Our countries are fledgling democracies and you don't want to even partake in the process of deciding your future.

It's nonsense quite honestly. Down right ungrateful. People have been assassinated, murdered, jailed, for your right to speak your mind and cast your vote and you'd rather stay home. It's ignorant.

Civic participation is the foundation of democracy. If people don't participate, it doesn't work as well as it should.

But as Winston Churchill once said, "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. "
 
None of the choices are great but if you're at all familiar with the policies you know there are enough differences where they're not exactly the same

Not knowing enough to differentiate or have an opinion is just sad IMO. Not taking advantage of opportunities that weren't available to our ancestors
 
Plus you can tell by the context people with this perspective don't even consider any election other than Presidential, which they're not going to vote in anyways. Yet they're the most complaining *** people.
 
If someone isn't pragmatic enough to realize how important voting is, even if its a matter of picking the lesser evil, I'd honestly rather that they not vote.

I absolutely think it's disrespectful. Not because people died for the right, but because a lot of people use their own ignorance as an excuse as if they don't have access to the information 24/7. People can tweet, snap pics for IG or SC all day, but can't spend 30 minutes on their smartphone to familiarize themselves with the politicians on their local ballot. :stoneface:
 
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You should tell them they should vote in their state and local elections if they want to actually effect change.


Republicans dominant every aspect of government other than the presidency, especially state legislators that pass the laws that directly effect citizens.
 
As long as the Electoral College exists I fail to see the point of a General Election, as far as president goes.

Then considering the gerrymandering of voting districts, all the Super PACs and corporations that finance these politicians, other forms of corruption and whatnot, hell, even considering that a large percentage of voting people are IDIOTS, and you can see how one could be jaded on voting.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
Was talking to somebody about the presidential race yesterday and I told them that I probably won't vote because I don't trust ANY of these dudes. And they hit me with the, "Man people died so you could vote, you have to."

I said what am I voting for exactly? I am literally picking my own poison. I am sure they didn't die for THAT.

So yea, is this line of thinking that black people MUST vote because people died for us still valid?
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A lot of women stood up for their rights
And the rights for all women to vote
I agree don't let what ur fellow women stood for to be in vain
 
...as I stated, no one's political platform is persuasive enough for me at this point. It's truly all been mud slinging and rhetoric to be honest. What you have to look at, is what their administration is going to do for you, as a voter. Right now the presidential candidates are appealing to their "base vote".

 As someone who's worked on political campaigns, this year as I stated, I'm an undecided, or a "swing vote".  I'm between the age of 18-34, a waning liberal, whose working class income would put me at the Democratic core. However, over the past 8 years while the Democratic party has done a lot for the poor, the working class paid for it and suffered. Not the rich. They've bailed out banks, but what about the homeowners with an underwater mortgage? Affordable Housing? Illegal immigrants abusing programs meant to help the working class? Hilary Clinton has been Senator of New York and First Lady simultaneously she's also been Secretary of State under the Obama administration. Her position was women's rights.  I'm personally not impressed with her work in immigration either. An ambassador and three others were killed in Benghazi under her watch.... what has she done for me, to gain my confidence?

I could give a more detailed analysis of Clinton and other candidates. But as I stated, as a married 18-34 year old, working-class New Yorker, they haven't even began to scratch the surface of the problems that plague us Millennials. I've even written a book on it. So why am I voting for any of them? Because I'm American? Because ancestors supposedly died for my rights to vote (which is a little more intricate than that)? 

They died for inalienable human rights, my freedom of CHOICE...I posted something by Frederick Douglass in another thread a few weeks ago. Although race isn't an issue anymore, it's an issue of class and heritage. Both are being undermined by all candidates in favor of votes. So again...as of right now, I'm not voting and couldn't care less who has something to say about my reasons.

 
 
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As long as the Electoral College exists I fail to see the point of a General Election, as far as president goes.

Then considering the gerrymandering of voting districts, all the Super PACs and corporations that finance these politicians, other forms of corruption and whatnot, hell, even considering that a large percentage of voting people are IDIOTS, and you can see how one could be jaded on voting.
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That's the part that makes a lot of people say "f it" I mean, I get it, the whole Electoral College thing, but with the way our government is set up, mainly the issues you described above, along w/ no term limits, it sways people to not vote because they feel their votes don't count.
 
nawghtyhare said:
A lot of women stood up for their rights
And the rights for all women to vote
I agree don't let what ur fellow women stood for to be in vain
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True, never looked at it that way. Good looks.

But yea, I was speaking about National elections with this topic. Not local. I should have said that from the jump
 
I fully believe that trump is going to be president 
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