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Is it bad I don't care to listen to 97% of the hip hop out there today?
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my sister literally told me to listen to him today
just aint get around to it yet, I'm gonna listen for sure now
he was in New Haven CT Mar 23 but i could not make it
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I feel like now theres different genres of rap like trap, hip hop (focus on lyrics), pop rap (drake, iggy, macklemore). Kind of like rock wheres theres classic rock, punk rock, soft rock etc.
These days the "hip hop" genre isnt that mainstream but you can certainly still find people making it.
Do yall agree? Or would you say Future migos etc is hip hop? Drake? Macklemore? Saying Future is hip hop is like saying a band like Sublime is rock music in my opinion. Thoughts?
These days the "hip hop" genre isnt that mainstream but you can certainly still find people making it.
Do yall agree? Or would you say Future migos etc is hip hop? Drake? Macklemore? Saying Future is hip hop is like saying a band like Sublime is rock music in my opinion. Thoughts?
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lyricism is 90% of what makes rap worth listening to though
without good lyrics there are so many other genres of music that sound better than rap
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Completely disagree. This is a old passé way of thinking that's blocks people from enjoying anything new. Everything does not have to be super lyrical and sound like dudes trying to squeeze 3 32 bars verses with hooks and bridge on a 4 minute record. I would like more rappers to experiment with sound and recording techniques tho.
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This.
It's broken down into sub-genres now instead of there being only 2-3 types of rappers (street dudes, lyrical dudes, radio rappers).
There also is no 106 and Park to display the varying spectrums of the genre. To place Kodak Black next to Chance The Rapper next to 21 Savage next to J. Cole next to Future and so on.
Plenty of variety.
A lot of y'all are just washed and consequently have outgrown the genre and what is valued in it.
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Go back to the NBA Thread fam lol
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I agree with this. If the rapper you're listening to is saying some dumb **** that you don't agree with but the song is "sonically pleasing" why are you listening?
If you're listening to a hip hop song for the beat, then listen to the instrumental lol. I don't get how dudes can listen to hip-hop, the genre that was essentially created for self expression with words and not care for the lyrics lol. I don't care if that metro dude or kanye makes an amazing beat.. if future or young thug is babbling on the track like an idiot i'm turning the record off.
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Hip hop is so much more than it was back then. Gotta learn to appreciate the evolution. Today's dudes can't do what the 90s dudes did but the 90s dudes can't do what these dudes are doing too. It's not just 1 type of hip hop anymore like dudes above are saying. Crazy enough trap rap has been my favorite sub genre of hip hop ever, can't stand the pop rap scene. But different strokes for different folks, the beauty of it is all the old stuff is still out there so u can still listen to it.
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Completely agree with that bolded point. 106 (and other video shows at the time, at least early) showed a natural variety of stuff. You weren't forced to seek it out, it was simply already presented for you, and you weren't bombarded with a lot of mess.
To do what
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But what kind of evolution is it? I get it, times changes, but how can you be ok with a time where there was clever word play, not even strict lyricism, and now all you hear are the same nuances and adlibs; is that what you consider evolution? I'm not trippin about the different genres, that was inevitable as it was in the early stages w/ gangsta rap, conscious rap, luxurious rap etc.
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Welcome back.
BUT this comment is wild disrespectful Ninja, Vado tho?
Vado is no where close to East, lyrically, sonically, substance, story telling, etc. it's not even close b.
A better comparison would be Stack Bundles, definitely not Vado, and Vado is my homie
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To answer your question, we don't really care what you listen to.
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Like other people said, just avoid it. It's so easy to avoid now too. We all got our smart phones to listen to our own music or podcasts or whatever you want. I think rap is at an all time low. Everyone rapping on the same beats, same sound, same flows. Rappers stealing flows and style, no one calls them out. Everyone is scared of beef and wants to collab. You got a Canadian Jew that's the biggest rapper in rap today. You could have told me that 15 years ago and I would have laughed. You got the biggest names in rap today are cats that can't sing or rap. Future, Young Thug, Travis Scott. These guys are making some really awful music. I don't listen to any of them, I just can't.
And Dave East is no ****** Vado. Hahahaha, come on son. No way. Dave East is nice.
As I'm typing this, G.Dep Child of the Ghetto comes on shuffle. **** is fire. I'll take this album over 99% of the rap BS they play today.
And Dave East is no ****** Vado. Hahahaha, come on son. No way. Dave East is nice.
As I'm typing this, G.Dep Child of the Ghetto comes on shuffle. **** is fire. I'll take this album over 99% of the rap BS they play today.
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More like de-evolution IMO.
East>vado IMO.
East>vado IMO.
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While I do think older hip hop heads can sound grumpy and closed minded, dudes from this era go to far thinking that there's this big evolution taking place in Hip Hop. There's some good to great rappers out nowadays but as whole lyrics have gotten worse, and production is more updated but it's too many dudes chasing the same sound. So the only thing that's changed over the last 15-20 years is production sounds more updated and that's naturally gonna happen as years go by. That's not a real evolution.
It's a lot of good producers out today but Dr Dre's production from the 90's sounds cleaner than most **** out right now. The Chronic 2 sounds more crisp than any album out right now.
I listen to a lot of new rappers now but saying they have made this big evolution is wrong when there's so many that are rapping over the same beats, using the same flows and really not saying anything.
The mid to late 90's was really when a evolution of the genre took place. With Pac/Deathrow , Big, Outkast, Nas, Jay, UGK, DMX, were all in their primes or coming out. Every coast was represented, diverse production and All were lyrical.
The only thing that's really gotten better is rappers have more business opportunities now and endorsements.
It's a lot of good producers out today but Dr Dre's production from the 90's sounds cleaner than most **** out right now. The Chronic 2 sounds more crisp than any album out right now.
I listen to a lot of new rappers now but saying they have made this big evolution is wrong when there's so many that are rapping over the same beats, using the same flows and really not saying anything.
The mid to late 90's was really when a evolution of the genre took place. With Pac/Deathrow , Big, Outkast, Nas, Jay, UGK, DMX, were all in their primes or coming out. Every coast was represented, diverse production and All were lyrical.
The only thing that's really gotten better is rappers have more business opportunities now and endorsements.
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Shamless plug, if ya wanna hear some HipHop with some substance and a message behind it, click the link in my signature 
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It is
Y'all gotta learn to adapt and stop being so dependent on the labels and radio man, they don't give a **** about supplying you with good music it's always been about the dollar first I.E. whoever has the best trendy sound/marketability/image/story wins. Fact of the matter is, if the labels don't think you can sell (show tickets, albums, and merch) at a profitable clip they don't want **** to do with you.
We got all kind of _'s out here making good music in all kinds of different genres of hip hop, **** that will NEVER blow up and get radio spins. You just gotta be proactive and not depend on the media, labels, etc to spoon feed you, if you do you just gonna be subjected to whatever the labels think they can make money off of at the time.
Edit: Tbh every generation says **** like this and not just in rap/hip hop either
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If it's hot, it's hot. But without thought the last few years I have listened to hip hop less and less. Maybe I just branched off into other ****. If we are talking in the simplest form of just feeling. I don't get the same vibe from the "hip hop" today, but neither do I get the same vibe from people on a daily. I get it every generation says the same thing. But people are different, this isn't just younger cats. This is people as a whole, people have evolved into something else. But one must adapt but still keep da essence.
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When I think of hip hop I think of the 4 elements. Dudes battling each other. Cats rapping in cyphers. Imagine young thug and future in a cypher 
Its just different genres of rap now man. And for some reason the most popular genre at the moment is trap. Pretty much what they play in clubs.
See but what I dont understand is that hip hop fans scream all the time how they want lyricism and more traditional hip hop on mainstream radio so I dont understand why labels dont push those kinds of artists. Is it beacuse hip hop fans dont buy albums?
Basically what Im saying is why do labels push trinidad james or Desiigner type dudes over j cole types if thats what the fans want?
I feel like sooooo many of my friends and people ive talked to agree that mainstream rap is mostly wack. I just dont see why that kind of hip hop wouldnt be profitable if so many damn people are asking for it. Kendrick is mad popular and hes verrrrry lyrical. Label execs really think that hip hop fans are all lean heads who just go to the club i guess.
Its just different genres of rap now man. And for some reason the most popular genre at the moment is trap. Pretty much what they play in clubs.
See but what I dont understand is that hip hop fans scream all the time how they want lyricism and more traditional hip hop on mainstream radio so I dont understand why labels dont push those kinds of artists. Is it beacuse hip hop fans dont buy albums?
Basically what Im saying is why do labels push trinidad james or Desiigner type dudes over j cole types if thats what the fans want?
I feel like sooooo many of my friends and people ive talked to agree that mainstream rap is mostly wack. I just dont see why that kind of hip hop wouldnt be profitable if so many damn people are asking for it. Kendrick is mad popular and hes verrrrry lyrical. Label execs really think that hip hop fans are all lean heads who just go to the club i guess.
