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Poll Results: Does the XXX1 deliver?

 
  • 58% (224)
    Yes
  • 24% (92)
    No
  • 17% (65)
    Undecided
381 Total Votes  
post #91 of 5274
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Sneakernews got their info from Dino hatfield. He's the one with the info. Sneakernews are leaches from Dino and NT.

just reviewed page 1 of this thread

states a summer release, when it is a back to school release on 9/3  

is September summer ?

it's fall where i live

also style 003 FINE PRINT is not listed

:o

post #92 of 5274
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Originally Posted by airsully23 View Post
 

just reviewed page 1 of this thread

states a summer release, when it is a back to school release on 9/3  

is September summer ?

it's fall where i live

also style 003 FINE PRINT is not listed

:o


FINE PRINT listing is here...

 

http://*************.com/news/2016/05/air-jordan-31-xxx1-release-date

 

Official end to summer is the autumnal equinox on September 23rd. What difference does it make if this release was labeled a summer release but 9/3 is considered fall to some people? It STILL releases on 9/3 in the SUMMER. Its not like you don't know what date the shoes are releasing :lol 

post #93 of 5274
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FINE PRINT listing is here...

 

http://*************.com/news/2016/05/air-jordan-31-xxx1-release-date

 

Official end to summer is the autumnal equinox on September 23rd. What difference does it make if this release was labeled a summer release but 9/3 is considered fall to some people? It STILL releases on 9/3 in the SUMMER. Its not like you don't know what date the shoes are releasing :lol 

thanks for that interesting fact, great conversation piece

i was going by info on page 1 (as i said) , not the link you supplied, and 003 not included

just trying to share new info not in the THREAD yet

i think the Olympics are done by 9/3 .....so info is a little misleading/wrong


Edited by airsully23 - 5/4/16 at 6:19am
post #94 of 5274
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much earlier than expected. can't wait to see these.

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post #96 of 5274
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much earlier than expected. can't wait to see these.
It's ibteresting that between the 30s and 31s release are only 7 months in between.
It took Tinker and co over 17 months after the 29s release for the 30s despite using the same sole design and altered them minimally.
Are the 30s like some others here said just a gap holder?
I expected for the 30s something special like 20s back in 2005.
post #97 of 5274
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much earlier than expected. can't wait to see these.

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post #98 of 5274
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It's ibteresting that between the 30s and 31s release are only 7 months in between.
It took Tinker and co over 17 months after the 29s release for the 30s despite using the same sole design and altered them minimally.
Are the 30s like some others here said just a gap holder?
I expected for the 30s something special like 20s back in 2005.

Rumor has it (and I believe it's brought up earlier in this thread) that either a production problem or MJ not liking the initial 30 design led to a rush job and release of the XXX. This next shoe is thought to be what they were actually working on before whatever happened, happened.

post #99 of 5274
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You mean same midsole/outsole structure...hope not.
The 30s wouldnt be bad if the 29 would look more different. Im not supporting JB for such lack of efforts to design a flagship shoe.

Totally agree.  “There’s an old saying in Tennessee—I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, fool me once, shame on, shame on you. Fool me—you can’t get fooled again.”  Please, some of us were #heartbroken when we saw the XXX midsole.  Hurt, betrayed, felt like you mailed it in.  Surely, you've had time to rotate, rejigger, de-couple, re-unlock, or do whatever you have to to the zoom, maybe lunarlon-ize it, or air max-imize it, or free it, or otherwise heretofore potentize it with any of the myriad other patented technologies you have at your disposal.  Just make it look, sound, and above all else feel cool again.  You shouldn't really call a new shoe new when the foot-feel is 92.5% the same as the previous model.  I dig Tinker, and did the whole suspension-of-disbelief thing when they unveiled the XXX...  And when he said you really don't have to change a chassis every time you're up at bat, I almost-almost believed it...  But my gut feeling was that if there was not enough of a change,  just extend the model one more year and build up the mystique.  You're selling a ton of retros anyway... take a breather... go on hiatus... re-charge... and then come out with something mildly mind-blowing. An evolution of the line.  A simple, sleek, visually striking, adaptable, comfortable, and dynamically-fitting piece of wearable art.  With MJs iconic silhouette embedded in the piece. Piece of cake, right?  Totally get it, this is not easy work, it's a labor of love, but it's what some of us ultimately crave.

post #100 of 5274
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Rumor has it (and I believe it's brought up earlier in this thread) that either a production problem or MJ not liking the initial 30 design led to a rush job and release of the XXX. This next shoe is thought to be what they were actually working on before whatever happened, happened.

they work 2+ years in advance of each release. what we will get with the 31 is what they always intended. we got the rush job on the 30 and the late release due to some issue. my money is on mj saying no to something late in the game. someone will eventually unearth what could have been with the 30, some time in the future, but it won't be the 31.
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post #101 of 5274
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There's literally no way to update a classic design without people hating it.. Remember these monstrosities? (8.0s)

Air-Jordan-8.0-White-Varsity-Red-Neutral-Grey-Flint-Grey-3.jpg


 


I'll never forget these. Mainly because I saw some dude at an outlet by a FSR of the Aqua colorway. He seriously thought he was about to flip actual Aquas.


I didn't have the heart to tell him. If he hadn't already paid and was baggin them up I woulda def said something at the aisle. 

Da aqua colorway of these weren't bad thou...

And da kids ones were basically VIII's cuz they used da same midsole/outsole.

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post #102 of 5274
I hope the Jordan XXX1 is something I can vibe with. Because all the Jordans from 15 on up have misses to me. However, I do like maybe the 21s( which I feel is underrated); the 17s & 18s( really because of nostalgic reasons) but I feel like they can do way better because they have made such iconic shoes in the past. I don't know what they are going for with these new original releases but I hope the get back to the way they to use to be
post #103 of 5274
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I hope the Jordan XXX1 is something I can vibe with. Because all the Jordans from 15 on up have misses to me. However, I do like maybe the 21s( which I feel is underrated); the 17s & 18s( really because of nostalgic reasons) but I feel like they can do way better because they have made such iconic shoes in the past. I don't know what they are going for with these new original releases but I hope the get back to the way they to use to be

Heavy leather shoes? Those days are long gone.
post #104 of 5274
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Heavy leather shoes? Those days are long gone.
This.
I think the last air jordan that incorporated much leather for the upper were the 2011 though they were quite light. 2012s only had some leather parts over the flywire and the xx8 the first air jordan that incorporated zero leather for design.
Last "heavy" air jordans i would say were either the 20 - 23 or 2009.
The 2010 were quite light.
post #105 of 5274
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they work 2+ years in advance of each release.


nuh uh dude tinker told derelle his could be the next air Jordan (kidding :lol)

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post #106 of 5274
A number of weeks ago, Dino replied to someone on Twitter saying the XXX1 was gonna be as if the Air Jordan 1 dropped now. He didn't express anything more than that.

I like the idea, but we already got the Air Jordan 1 Alpha though. With the full length Zoom.
Edited by Jiffyl00b - 5/10/16 at 2:08pm
post #107 of 5274
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A number of weeks ago, Dino replied to someone on Twitter saying the XXX1 was gonna be as if the Air Jordan 1 dropped now. He didn't express anything more than that.

I like the idea, but we already got the Air Jordan 1 Alpha though. With the full length Zoom.

Man, I forget just how AWFUL the Alpha was.

And by forget, I mean I never forgot.

The silhouette reeked of an obvious fake that I could never truly accept.
post #108 of 5274
Jordan 1s also drop on 9/3 with the XXX1
post #109 of 5274
Another mashup hybrid deal I hope not.....
post #110 of 5274
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Originally Posted by Jiffyl00b View Post

A number of weeks ago, Dino replied to someone on Twitter saying the XXX1 was gonna be as if the Air Jordan 1 dropped now. He didn't express anything more than that.

I like the idea, but we already got the Air Jordan 1 Alpha though. With the full length Zoom.

I think he meant something else.
Not that the design of the xxx1 looks similar to the 1 but that it's look and appeal has the similar effect like the 1 did in 1985.
This means it should be something very eye catching and unique and not too decent.
post #111 of 5274
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Originally Posted by jumpman cbt2 View Post

I think he meant something else.
Not that the design of the xxx1 looks similar to the 1 but that it's look and appeal has the similar effect like the 1 did in 1985.
This means it should be something very eye catching and unique and not too decent.

Yeah, maybe they are trying to do what no other modern flagship performance basketball shoe (from ANY brand) is currently doing-have equally great performance AND lifestyle/casual wear appeal.
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Ok, so I have a theory on this. You might remember that when the XXX came out, Tinker and Mark Smith were doing an interview, and Tinker started to say something about "printing" the jumpman symbol on the toe of the XXX, and Smith IMMEDIATELY cut him off and said something along the lines of "we can't say that word." Well, now, with the XXX1 we have one of the color ways called "fine print." I am almost positive that there is going to be 3D printing of some sort incorporated into this shoe. Hence Smith cutting Tinker off when he even mentioned the word print in the release of the XXX. This would be super innovative...as only adidas and underarmor have done it in tiny runs.

post #113 of 5274
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Originally Posted by Voon60 View Post
 

Ok, so I have a theory on this. You might remember that when the XXX came out, Tinker and Mark Smith were doing an interview, and Tinker started to say something about "printing" the jumpman symbol on the toe of the XXX, and Smith IMMEDIATELY cut him off and said something along the lines of "we can't say that word." Well, now, with the XXX1 we have one of the color ways called "fine print." I am almost positive that there is going to be 3D printing of some sort incorporated into this shoe. Hence Smith cutting Tinker off when he even mentioned the word print in the release of the XXX. This would be super innovative...as only adidas and underarmor have done it in tiny runs.


Cool theory! This would certainly be a game-changer! If this is true, the cost of the shoe would be expensive as UA & NB have incorporated 3D printing into their shoes and they cost $300 & $400!! AND those shoes have significantly low production numbers in the hundreds. We know the price of the XXX1 to be $200. So as much as I'd like your theory to be true which would be awesome, its probably not. Remember, the Jordan sig will be a mass produced shoe and 3D printing isn't quite there as far as mass production is concerned. Maybe Nike/JB will change that. I'm not even aware of any 3D printing solutions for sneakers by Nike in any way ( except for football cleats). Anyone got info on Nike/JB and 3D printing?


Edited by 2396Bullz - 5/12/16 at 4:42pm
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As a consumer, why do I care if a shoe is 3D printed or not?
post #115 of 5274
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As a consumer, why do I care if a shoe is 3D printed or not?


On the business end, a couple of reasons: Firstly, definitely less waste. Secondly, 3D printing will eventually replace traditional molds down the road. So obviously better for the environment and will bring the cost of shoes down. On the design end, since its printed, you can get endless designs and shapes that weren't possible with traditional mold making. So it'll change the visual aesthetic of shoes in the future. Also, as a consumer in the future, you'll be able to have the shoe/mid-sole printed to the exact measurements of your foot. Its like a shoe made specifically for you. For example if you need more arch support, you wouldn't need arch inserts or a dr scholl's, it would just be printed into the design. Its exciting stuff!

post #116 of 5274
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On the business end, a couple of reasons: Firstly, definitely less waste. Secondly, 3D printing will eventually replace traditional molds down the road. So obviously better for the environment and will bring the cost of shoes down. On the design end, since its printed, you can get endless designs and shapes that weren't possible with traditional mold making. So it'll change the visual aesthetic of shoes in the future. Also, as a consumer in the future, you'll be able to have the shoe/mid-sole printed to the exact measurements of your foot. Its like a shoe made specifically for you. For example if you need more arch support, you wouldn't need arch inserts or a dr scholl's, it would just be printed into the design. Its exciting stuff!

Sounds very interesting. I hope that they really make use of it to create very interesting upper patterns. Because the recent air jordans had been using very plain upper designs.
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Pics of other 3d printed shoes for reference? nerd.gif
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Pics of other 3d printed shoes for reference? nerd.gif
Sorry, the upload does not work. But basically mostavailable casual 3d print shoes are having much Ventilation areas on the whole shoe.
Edited by jumpman cbt2 - 5/14/16 at 9:47am
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I feel like they might institute the 3D printing in a limited form on the shoe. Maybe the heel section of the midsole (like the recent UA shoe), or a heel clip, etc. Or maybe not--maybe they'll go further. I'm going to try to look into patents that Nike has issued. Maybe there's something there. I'm just saying, I wouldn't be surprised AT ALL if the XXI goes that direction. It is the natural next step. 

post #120 of 5274

This is probably closely linked to the printing that Tinker was talking about with the XXX:

 

http://www.freshpatents.com/-dt20160225ptan20160052297.php

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