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Wonder what this NEW tech will be that they couldn't get done in time for the XXX?
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Wonder what this NEW tech will be that they couldn't get done in time for the XXX?

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I think I read a post Dino made saying that they look like what the Jordan 1 would look like if it were made in this era.. Has Flyknit..

 

I hope they look like these concepts designed by ALPHAPROJECT (aka. Jason Petrie) of Niketalk.

 

For the Jordan XXX, I wish they release the galaxy colorway, okc orange, and hornets colorways.

 

 

post #64 of 7551

I hope its literally an updated and well made flyknit 1 with a classic looking but high performance sole. Slap a black leather swoosh on them for contrast like the kobe 11 ftb and we're good. Not like the Obama 1s though. I'd like to see the toe rand, lace rand and heel to be noticeably thicker than the rest instead of the one piece look the obamas had. Just start remaking the classic originals again every year but modernized. Start over. I think I speak for everyone when I say there hasn't been a newer model since the 23 thats been 'ok'. We're getting somewhere with the 29 and 30 but they aren't cutting it. So why keep trying to design another classic? Just update them instead. Stop wasting time with trying to come up with new classic. Its not going to happen. You already have the best designs and blueprints in your archive, JB. Just build them with whats available now that you would've used if you could when making them back in the 80's and 90's. 

 

Kind of like the Jordan 1 alpha I guess just not ugly and perforated. And with the flyknit 2 to follow and not just a one off thing. A flyknit V would be ridiculous.


Edited by tonytobacco - 4/26/16 at 1:18am
post #65 of 7551

Do you guys remember the tie-in with Bugs Bunny a few months before we started seeing leaked pics of the XXX?

 

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/01/bugs-bunny-teases-the-jordan-xxx-in-interview-with-ahmad-rashad-video/

 

I'm curious to see if they'll revisit the Bugs Bunny tie-in with the XXX1 or go in a completely new direction?

post #66 of 7551
No thanks on these looking anything like 1s.
post #67 of 7551
I doubt JB would take the 1 influence this literal but does anyone else remember a NTers particular proto/wear-test version of the XX1 which literally did have an AJ1-esq upper?



..regardless, I cant wait to move past the 29.5
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post #69 of 7551
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Originally Posted by manposite View Post

I doubt JB would take the 1 influence this literal but does anyone else remember a NTers particular proto/wear-test version of the XX1 which literally did have an AJ1-esq upper?



..regardless, I cant wait to move past the 29.5
That looks like a glorified Jordan 1.5
post #70 of 7551
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Originally Posted by sdiori View Post

XXX has been completed discarded by JB.

A stop gap model.

If the XXX1 is ready to go, then they knew this while trying to convince us 3s, 4s, and 5s were largely "the same." SMH

I like the XXX, but it's no denying it's a 29.5.

No excuses on the XXX1..."you got time today, cuz."

Similar things happened when the Air Jordan X originally released-it was planned as an homage to MJ after his 1st retirement but when he returned in 1995, it was kind of awkward how he wore them (he switched to the then-unreleased XI in the 1995 playoffs). After that, Nike/JB took forever to finally retro the Xs and, although Xs retro all the time nowadays, they were an awkward model (like the 30s are) back then.
post #71 of 7551
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Originally Posted by tonytobacco View Post

I hope its literally an updated and well made flyknit 1 with a classic looking but high performance sole. Slap a black leather swoosh on them for contrast like the kobe 11 ftb and we're good. Not like the Obama 1s though. I'd like to see the toe rand, lace rand and heel to be noticeably thicker than the rest instead of the one piece look the obamas had. Just start remaking the classic originals again every year but modernized. Start over. I think I speak for everyone when I say there hasn't been a newer model since the 23 thats been 'ok'. We're getting somewhere with the 29 and 30 but they aren't cutting it. So why keep trying to design another classic? Just update them instead. Stop wasting time with trying to come up with new classic. Its not going to happen. You already have the best designs and blueprints in your archive, JB. Just build them with whats available now that you would've used if you could when making them back in the 80's and 90's. 

Kind of like the Jordan 1 alpha I guess just not ugly and perforated. And with the flyknit 2 to follow and not just a one off thing. A flyknit V would be ridiculous.

There's literally no way to update a classic design without people hating it.. Remember these monstrosities? (8.0s)

Air-Jordan-8.0-White-Varsity-Red-Neutral-Grey-Flint-Grey-3.jpg

Air-Jordan-8.0.jpg
post #72 of 7551
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Originally Posted by manposite View Post

I doubt JB would take the 1 influence this literal but does anyone else remember a NTers particular proto/wear-test version of the XX1 which literally did have an AJ1-esq upper?



..regardless, I cant wait to move past the 29.5

JB used the left shiny part on the 29/30... They made it smaller and part of the midsole..
post #73 of 7551
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Originally Posted by StaffSgtDignam View Post


There's literally no way to update a classic design without people hating it.. Remember these monstrosities? (8.0s)

Air-Jordan-8.0-White-Varsity-Red-Neutral-Grey-Flint-Grey-3.jpg

Air-Jordan-8.0.jpg


Never forget.

 

What Im saying is update the model with today's tech.

 

something like this 

 

 

 instead of it being 1 flat piece though, have all of the panels stick out like they're supposed to. 


But not just flyknit instead of leather though. Maybe update the sole with lunar instead of polyurethane or zoom instead of air. Make the shoe perform like 2016 but keep the aesthetics true to the model. Hide some carbon fiber inside of the 1 sole with zoom, make the hard rubber out of something softer, reinforce parts of the upper like the XXX but hide everything under its outer skin so that it looks how its supposed to look. What Im saying is leave the design alone and just update the silhouette to 2016 performance standards. Take the whatever budget that goes towards coming up with a complete redesign of the model every year and just make it be XXX1 = updated 1  XXX2 = updated 2  XXX3 = updated 3 etc...  I think the XXX part before the number makes it even more marketable. 

 

Im tired of waiting for them to come up with something cool again. Its been too long. Just go back and re-do the classics every year and leave the design overhaul days behind with the 30. They have some of the most epic blueprints ever made, stop trying so hard to create something you a;ready have I guess is what Im getting at. 

 

Basically the Jordan XXX1 should be those flyknit 1s above but with more pronounced panels, then take the jordan XX9/XXX sole again lol and shape it into something that looks like an Air jordan 1 sole as close as possible. Slap it together and call it a day. On to the XXX2.

 

They may not perform quite as well as a XXX but no one would care if they look good while trying to. Even better if they get them to that level. I think it would be a huge success.

post #74 of 7551
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Originally Posted by StaffSgtDignam View Post


There's literally no way to update a classic design without people hating it.. Remember these monstrosities? (8.0s)

Air-Jordan-8.0-White-Varsity-Red-Neutral-Grey-Flint-Grey-3.jpg

 

 

 

I'll never forget these. Mainly because I saw some dude at an outlet by a FSR of the Aqua colorway. He seriously thought he was about to flip actual Aquas.

 

 

I didn't have the heart to tell him. If he hadn't already paid and was baggin them up I woulda def said something at the aisle. 

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post #75 of 7551
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Originally Posted by tonytobacco View Post


Never forget.

What Im saying is update the model with today's tech.

something like this 






 instead of it being 1 flat piece though, have all of the panels stick out like they're supposed to. 


But not just flyknit instead of leather though. Maybe update the sole with lunar instead of polyurethane or zoom instead of air. Make the shoe perform like 2016 but keep the aesthetics true to the model. Hide some carbon fiber inside of the 1 sole with zoom, make the hard rubber out of something softer, reinforce parts of the upper like the XXX but hide everything under its outer skin so that it looks how its supposed to look. What Im saying is leave the design alone and just update the silhouette to 2016 performance standards. Take the whatever budget that goes towards coming up with a complete redesign of the model every year and just make it be XXX1 = updated 1  XXX2 = updated 2  XXX3 = updated 3 etc...  I think the XXX part before the number makes it even more marketable. 

Im tired of waiting for them to come up with something cool again. Its been too long. Just go back and re-do the classics every year and leave the design overhaul days behind with the 30. They have some of the most epic blueprints ever made, stop trying so hard to create something you a;ready have I guess is what Im getting at. 

Basically the Jordan XXX1 should be those flyknit 1s above but with more pronounced panels, then take the jordan XX9/XXX sole again lol and shape it into something that looks like an Air jordan 1 sole as close as possible. Slap it together and call it a day. On to the XXX2.

They may not perform quite as well as a XXX but no one would care if they look good while trying to. Even better if they get them to that level. I think it would be a huge success.

You have some very good points but I think they want to keep their retro market and performance market seperate. The profit margins on retros are INSANE because they can sell 20-30 year old tech at a huge profit due to little overall cost (I think each pair of AJ 1s costs less than $20 to make and ship to retail.. Insane.).

Hilariously, your idea would cannibalize their "sell-retros-made-with-cheap-materials" business model because it would make those into better products that cost more to manufacture. They would have to significantly increase the retail cost for these retros and risk losing marketshare as a result.

That said, I could definitely see them testing the waters and pulling a pinnacle-like release with a performance version of a model that keeps the exact same look. The problem is that the market for performance basketball shoes is HIGHLY competitive, even mostly within Nike and Jordan Brand itself. People would be hard sought to drop $300+ on a pair of preformance retros when they could get a pair of Kobes/Lebron/Kyries/Currys for half that price or even less. Also, if the reduced MSRP for the Lebron 13 Elites and rumored $200 pricing for the AJ XXX1 is correct-the sweet spot for flagship performance models is about $200.
Edited by StaffSgtDignam - 4/28/16 at 4:02pm
post #76 of 7551
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I'll never forget these. Mainly because I saw some dude at an outlet by a FSR of the Aqua colorway. He seriously thought he was about to flip actual Aquas.


I didn't have the heart to tell him. If he hadn't already paid and was baggin them up I woulda def said something at the aisle. 

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post #77 of 7551

Jordan said he wants his signature shoes priced above everyone else in order to appear more elite. I don't see them having an issue with raising the price and I think there would be a significant enough sized market for those that want a performance classic. I could be wrong though. It'd be interesting nonetheless.

 

I don't think they're too happy about the 200 price point, I think its more of a necessity because of the lack of demand.

post #78 of 7551

That pic lol

post #79 of 7551
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Originally Posted by Calvin Bailey View Post

I hope they look like these concepts designed by ALPHAPROJECT (aka. Jason Petrie) of Niketalk.

For the Jordan XXX, I wish they release the galaxy colorway, okc orange, and hornets colorways.



That concept looks cool, especially the heel part. Toe should better not be that Banana-shaped wink.gif
post #80 of 7551
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Originally Posted by Calvin Bailey View Post
 

 

I hope they look like these concepts designed by ALPHAPROJECT (aka. Jason Petrie) of Niketalk.

 

For the Jordan XXX, I wish they release the galaxy colorway, okc orange, and hornets colorways.

 

 


please god no. I hope they look nothing like the 1. the melo 1.5 is about the best you could do with a futuristic 1 imo. alpha 1s and the 1.5 with the 2 sole just look weird after the original has been in our minds for 30+ years. when it looks TOO similar it just doesn't work out imo. no thanks on melos with a swoosh or flyknit/updated materials 1s. Other shoes it might work better if they update the materials, but the 1 is just too classic of a silhouette, it's hard to accept even the slightest changes of an iconic look.

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post #81 of 7551
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I'll never forget these. Mainly because I saw some dude at an outlet by a FSR of the Aqua colorway. He seriously thought he was about to flip actual Aquas.


I didn't have the heart to tell him. If he hadn't already paid and was baggin them up I woulda def said something at the aisle. 

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I dont think i wouldve said anything at all but thats funny as hell
post #82 of 7551

I don't know that the XXX1 will look anything like the I's. The I's are a product of the technology that they had in 1984/85, lending to that specific iconic look. Right now, today, the technology available is significant. If the idea for the XXX1 is to start the Jordan line as if it started today, why would the XXX1 look anything like the AJI?  Were talking 30 plus years of technology and innovation for a sneaker line. With that said, I look forward to seeing what we'll get with the XXX1 concept.

post #83 of 7551
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Originally Posted by Calvin Bailey View Post
 

 

I hope they look like these concepts designed by ALPHAPROJECT (aka. Jason Petrie) of Niketalk.

 

For the Jordan XXX, I wish they release the galaxy colorway, okc orange, and hornets colorways.

 

 

 

It would be an interesting move by the Jordan Brand to promote the Nike swoosh on their flagship model. I don't recall any recent modern Jordan (not retro) to feature the swoosh.

 

That concept does look great. I wonder what new/better technology the 31 will feature.

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post #84 of 7551
These should be miles ahead of anything in the brand at the moment... I expect them to pull something glorifying out azs this time.. I'm not talking continents and 3D toes.
post #85 of 7551
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Originally Posted by tonytobacco View Post

I hope its literally an updated and well made flyknit 1 with a classic looking but high performance sole. Slap a black leather swoosh on them for contrast like the kobe 11 ftb and we're good. Not like the Obama 1s though. I'd like to see the toe rand, lace rand and heel to be noticeably thicker than the rest instead of the one piece look the obamas had. Just start remaking the classic originals again every year but modernized. Start over. I think I speak for everyone when I say there hasn't been a newer model since the 23 thats been 'ok'. We're getting somewhere with the 29 and 30 but they aren't cutting it. So why keep trying to design another classic? Just update them instead. Stop wasting time with trying to come up with new classic. Its not going to happen. You already have the best designs and blueprints in your archive, JB. Just build them with whats available now that you would've used if you could when making them back in the 80's and 90's. 

Kind of like the Jordan 1 alpha I guess just not ugly and perforated. And with the flyknit 2 to follow and not just a one off thing. A flyknit V would be ridiculous.

this is what i had been hoping for for years. the alpha 1 are an excellent shoe. i don't buy retros at all any more, but i would totally buy alpha 2, alpha 3, etcetera.


both the 2.0 and 8.0 were pathetic attempts of the same.
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Originally Posted by CarolinaKickG View Post
 

 

 

I'll never forget these. Mainly because I saw some dude at an outlet by a FSR of the Aqua colorway. He seriously thought he was about to flip actual Aquas.

 

 

I didn't have the heart to tell him. If he hadn't already paid and was baggin them up I woulda def said something at the aisle. 

yo you are a better man than most. a lot of us would just shake our heads as he paid for the 8.0s lol

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9/3/2016  (per sneakernews.com)

 

845037-001    BREDS

 

845037-003     FINE PRINT

post #88 of 7551
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9/3/2016  (per sneakernews.com)

845037-001    BREDS

845037-003     FINE PRINT

So September 2016 is the initial release of the 31 right?
Hope they dont look like a 29.75 or 30.5 design wise.
Reusing the same basis sole design for the 3rd time would be very lame.
While you keep the inner structure you still can alter more details here and there.
post #89 of 7551
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So September 2016 is the initial release of the 31 right?
Hope they dont look like a 29.75 or 30.5 design wise.
Reusing the same basis sole design for the 3rd time would be very lame.
While you keep the inner structure you still can alter more details here and there.

as stated, got this info off of sneakernews.com which i have found a good solid, source for info

just trying to be a positive NT member and contributing by sharing confirmed info;) 


Edited by airsully23 - 5/3/16 at 6:35pm
post #90 of 7551
Sneakernews got their info from Dino hatfield. He's the one with the info. Sneakernews are leaches from Dino and NT.
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