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Supplied PDX busted in Nike counterfeit ring
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If you have grey markets in your collection your collection ain't valid
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Grey markets are Illegal..because nike didn't authorize their manufacture, doesn't mean it DIDN'T come straight thru them via illegal channels...
They JUST said themselves.
Lemme requote it.
Thats coming Straight from Nike. What else needs to be said?
At this point, if you dont even believe da folks at Beaverton then i can't help you
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Fordham, Southern Blvd, Third Ave, etc. Dudes be shelling out $350-400 on a daily to cop Jay's and foams months early. Not even gonna lie to you the quality is there but I'm not about that $400 for kicks life anymore early release grey markets or retail versions.
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Grey markets are Illegal..because nike didn't authorize their manufacture, doesn't mean it DIDN'T come straight thru them via illegal channels...
They JUST said themselves.
Lemme requote it.
Thats coming Straight from Nike. What else needs to be said?
At this point, if you dont even believe da folks at Beaverton then i can't help you
All they said is that the sneakers are coming from the same factories using the same materials. That doesn't make them authentic however. We've seen this time and again, these grey market sneakers are convincing to the untrained eye but once you really put em up against the genuine article the devil becomes apparent in the detail.
Or in your words, da proof is in da pudding.
We saw the Nightwing CG XI dissection vid.
And all the sneakers since that have been proven fake when put under greater scrutiny.
They might use the same materials and be coming from the same place but the same quality isn't there.
They're fake man. As hit or miss as Nike's quality control is, them fakes are far, far worse.
One thing I never got about you. You yourself say you only cop from authorized retailers and stay away from mom & pop spots around the city. Yet you still go extra hard with this grey market stuff. You'll cosign the stuff but you won't touch it.
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i think ninjahood thinks you can just switch up da materials like da ls engine swap
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understanding da nuance of da situation is very important, im not defending da events, i just want da story to be told properly.
Lumping everything as "meh fake" and not giving it a second look to why its happening is a very lazy view of it.
Quality ≠ legality
Cuz a grey market could literally mean who's LEGALLY able to produce da same exact shoe.
Think of Thor's Hammer...if you're authorized factory then you pick up da Mjölnir..if u aint got Nike's Blessing then you can't... Or at least you're not supposed to.
If Capcom developers decided tomorrow it was going to make Marvel Vs Capcom 4...without Disney's consent, they'd essentially be making a grey market product, doesn't matter that they actually created da first 3 of em and you didn't have to worry about playing a quality product, because since Disney hasn't Green lit it, Capcom profiting from such a Game would be illegal.
Thats where grey market kicks fall under legal jurisdiction.
Lumping everything as "meh fake" and not giving it a second look to why its happening is a very lazy view of it.
Quality ≠ legality
Cuz a grey market could literally mean who's LEGALLY able to produce da same exact shoe.
Think of Thor's Hammer...if you're authorized factory then you pick up da Mjölnir..if u aint got Nike's Blessing then you can't... Or at least you're not supposed to.
If Capcom developers decided tomorrow it was going to make Marvel Vs Capcom 4...without Disney's consent, they'd essentially be making a grey market product, doesn't matter that they actually created da first 3 of em and you didn't have to worry about playing a quality product, because since Disney hasn't Green lit it, Capcom profiting from such a Game would be illegal.
Thats where grey market kicks fall under legal jurisdiction.
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no, you don't. you're not worthy it to pick up da Mjölnir LOL
discussion went from grey market to thor hammer, what in the world is happening right now
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You sound mad though.
This is what I'm getting from that article, Nike is essentially saying....
These companies we hire to mass produce our products have employee's that are illegally producing more then the agreed quantity so they can sell those extra pairs to consumers for personal profit.
Now how in the hell does that make them fake? They're made by the same people who make the "authorized" versions, using the same exact techniques, materials in the same exact location......But because Nike authorized 100 pairs to be made and somehow 200 were made those extra 100 are now fake?
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This is lumpia
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you may have heard of it. It is basically a filipino eggroll.
it is delicious.
My auntie lenore makes exceptional lumpia. The best lumpia you ever had.
She has a store with workers that make da lumpia using her recipe and her ingredients.
they take alot of orders. Alot.
so lets say they get an order if 1000.
They were off with the measurement for the ingredients of that particular order so they have 100 extra.
Well arlene decides to take those extra 100 and sell them to her friends.
Her friends eat them and sure enough they taste exactly like my auntie lenores lumpia. Because they were made with the same ingredients using the same recipe.
The proof is in the lumpia indeed.
unfortunately so is the crime.
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you may have heard of it. It is basically a filipino eggroll.
it is delicious.
My auntie lenore makes exceptional lumpia. The best lumpia you ever had.
She has a store with workers that make da lumpia using her recipe and her ingredients.
they take alot of orders. Alot.
so lets say they get an order if 1000.
They were off with the measurement for the ingredients of that particular order so they have 100 extra.
Well arlene decides to take those extra 100 and sell them to her friends.
Her friends eat them and sure enough they taste exactly like my auntie lenores lumpia. Because they were made with the same ingredients using the same recipe.
The proof is in the lumpia indeed.
unfortunately so is the crime.
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Grey markets are Illegal..because nike didn't authorize their manufacture, doesn't mean it DIDN'T come straight thru them via illegal channels...
They JUST said themselves.
Lemme requote it.
Thats coming Straight from Nike. What else needs to be said?
At this point, if you dont even believe da folks at Beaverton then i can't help you
One thing I never got about you. You yourself say you only cop from authorized retailers and stay away from mom & pop spots around the city. Yet you still go extra hard with this grey market stuff. You'll cosign the stuff but you won't touch it.
Psh look at them 3s :x and where he got from http://niketalk.com/t/339799/mental...or-marqueesole-for-concords/240#post_17784813
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That's a true grey market or third shift product - but I'm convinced that's the minority of fakes, and mostly it's a rumor put about by those who make fakes to legitimise what they do.
Authorized or not doesn't have anything to do with if they're genuine - they're illegal, but authentic.
The rest are fake and they are just poor replicas. Maybe there's a stolen mold here and there but they're counterfeit materials and manufacture.
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If it requires a federal investigation to determine if your kicks real or not.... imma let you rock
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Da quote sums up what it is.
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These aren't made in authorized Nike factories as has always been a big part of the myth.
Wasn't get supplied a sponsor at one point?
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Ninja out here gassing folks to buy fake shoes again [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]
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Let's be honest, they can be "Grey Market" and you can think whatever you want but to me, if they aren't made by Nike in a Nike factory, they are fake. It could be a 100% perfect replica in terms of shape and materials and to me it's still fake. You can argue that with anything but I mean, if I'm buying a painting made by Picasso, I want it to be by the real Picasso. I'm just happy SuppliedPDX is gone, I've seen too many people get scammed off of them.
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"Pick up da Mjölnir." idk why this is funny to me.
Ninja is making some good points imo but I also agree that these true grey market shoes are in the minority.
But idc about the whole shoe thing nearly as much as I once did. The price inflation on every product reached my breaking point years ago.
idk why this is funny to me. Ninja is making some good points imo but I also agree that these true grey market shoes are in the minority.
But idc about the whole shoe thing nearly as much as I once did. The price inflation on every product reached my breaking point years ago.
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Glad I ignored recommendations.
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You just paraphrased what he said.
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Bingo lol.
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Bingo. True grey market/third shift shoes although out there are in the super minority and aren't readily to the average person. The problem we have now is that people have been using a right term to describe the wrong thing for so long.
These would be considered TRUE grey market pairs. And notice the channels that are needed and position one must be in for those shoes to come to existence. http://m.nydailynews.com/news/natio...poses-20g-stolen-shoes-feds-article-1.1761383
What's actually going on is there are actually shops/ specifically set up for making fakes of ALL brands. Ultra boosts, NMD, and Yeezy boosts made right along side Jordans and nikes. I know this because I've spent time on forums that specifically deal with fakes of all grades. On these forums the Chinese people responsible for multiple different websites and factories not only post regularly alerting the forum of new product releases but interacting directly with people. I've spoken directly with some of these people in the past and have never had any issue admitting that what they do has nothing to do with the brands that they make And boldly claim to make the best fakes on the market. The particular person that I spoke too has the air jordan 17 for sale with the case and all for sale right now.
99% of these go through revision processes as well and each revision is released in a different batch. Jordan 1 royal and bred have got about a dozen or so batches out while the YEEZY boost is on its 7th batch. These are the shoes that are commonly called grey market or "unauthorized authentic". Idk if I'm allowed to post this but here's a post from the infamous "David Jones". If you've actually looked into theses things past what NikeTalk can give you there's no way you have come across pictures of "grey market" kicks with David's name on them.
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One last thing I'll say is this. True grey market/unauthorized kicks aren't released in batches to correct error after error. If they were as authentic as people claim, stolen off the line or made by "rogue Nike factories" no revisions would be needed. To this day you can't buy an unauthorized royal jordan 1 thats the right shade of blue, you can't buy an unauthorized jordan 4 fear that has the same shade of suede as the authentic pair. To this day you can't buy an unauthorized pair of yeezys that have the same mesh on the tongue as the authentic pair and to this day you can't buy a pair of unauthorized Adidas boost shoes with real prime knit or real boost. I encourage people to actually take a look into this stuff for themselves.
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Joints is fake point blank please show me theses "true grey market" shoes I'll wait ....if they come from the same factories why do they have different materials ??? How many dissection videos do you idiots need ?? Like this can't be argued it's been proven...it's a FACT they use different materials