Da majority of Millennials now reject Capitalism Vol. Comrades afoot

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In an apparent rejection of the basic principles of the U.S. economy, a new poll shows that most young people do not support capitalism.

The Harvard University survey, which polled young adults between ages 18 and 29, found that 51 percent of respondents do not support capitalism. Just 42 percent said they support it.

It isn't clear that the young people in the poll would prefer some alternative system, though. Just 33 percent said they supported socialism. The survey had a margin of error of 2.4 percentage points.

The results of the survey are difficult to interpret, pollsters noted. Capitalism can mean different things to different people, and the newest generation of voters is frustrated with the status quo, broadly speaking.

All the same, that a majority of respondents in Harvard University's survey of young adults said they do not support capitalism suggests that today's youngest voters are more focused on the flaws of free markets.

"The word 'capitalism' doesn't mean what it used to," said Zach Lustbader, a senior at Harvard involved in conducting the poll, which was published Monday. For those who grew up during the Cold War, capitalism meant freedom from the Soviet Union and other totalitarian regimes. For those who grew up more recently, capitalism has meant a financial crisis from which the global economy still hasn't completely recovered.

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A subsequent survey that included people of all ages found that somewhat older Americans also are skeptical of capitalism. Only among respondents at least 50 years old was the majority in support of capitalism.


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Although the results are startling, Harvard's questions accord with other recent research on how Americans think about capitalism and socialism. In 2011, for example, the Pew Research Center found that people ages 18 to 29 were frustrated with the free-market system.

In that survey, 46 percent had positive views of capitalism, and 47 percent had negative views — a broader question than what Harvard's pollsters asked, which was whether the respondent supported the system. With regard to socialism, by contrast, 49 percent of the young people in Pew's poll had positive views, and just 43 percent had negative views.

Lustbader, 22, said the darkening mood on capitalism is evident in the way politicians talk about the economy. When Republicans — long the champions of free enterprise — use the word "capitalism" these days, it's often to complain about "crony capitalism," he said.

"You don't hear people on the right defending their economic policies using that word anymore," Lustbader added.

It is an open question whether young people's attitudes on socialism and capitalism show that they are rejecting free markets as a matter of principle or whether those views are simply an expression of broader frustrations with an economy in which household incomes have been declining for 15 years.

On specific questions about how best to organize the economy, for example, young people's views seem conflicted. Just 27 percent believe government should play a large role in regulating the economy, the Harvard poll found, and just 30 percent think the government should play a large role in reducing income inequality. Only 26 percent said government spending is an effective way to increase economic growth


Yet 48 percent agreed that "basic health insurance is a right for all people." And 47 percent agreed with the statement that "Basic necessities, such as food and shelter, are a right that the government should provide to those unable to afford them."

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"Young people could be saying that there are problems with capitalism, contradictions," Frank Newport, the editor in chief of Gallup, said when asked about the new data. "I certainly don't know what’s going through their heads."

John Della Volpe, the polling director at Harvard, went on to personally interview a small group of young people about their attitudes toward capitalism to try to learn more. They told him that capitalism was unfair and left people out despite their hard work.

"They're not rejecting the concept," Della Volpe said. "The way in which capitalism is practiced today, in the minds of young people — that's what they're rejecting."
 
The millineals haven't really experienced capitalism to reject it.
Need to call it what it is. Corporate socialism and hybrid free market capitalism which does not really trickle down to an individual.

All this staging oin millineals vs baby boomers or this group vs that group is a distraction to the fact that our politicians sold out the American people. No matter to what class, race, age group you belong too. Its really sad.

All these young ppl are blindly following Bernie on issues because he talks in because he talks about making an unfair system which he has had to side and vote with on plenty of occasions all of a sudden play by the rules.

Its not gonna happen. Its like waiting on a master to free a slave when its not in the masters financial interest. Its all talk...
 
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why aren't old(er) millennials involved with this poll? they are people from roughly 1983-2000, they have voices too
 
Capitalism as it is today is definitely bad, but to say it's bad all together is false. That goes w/ any economic system though so...
 
The millineals haven't really experienced capitalism to reject it.
Need to call it what it is. Corporate socialism and hybrid free market capitalism which does not really trickle down to an individual.

All this staging oin millineals vs baby boomers or this group vs that group is a distraction to the fact that our politicians sold out the American people. No matter to what class, race, age group you belong too. Its really sad.

All these young ppl are blindly following Bernie on issues because he talks in because he talks about making an unfair system which he has had to side and vote with on plenty of occasions all of a sudden play by the rules.

Its not gonna happen. Its like waiting on a master to free a slave when its not in the masters financial interest. Its all talk...
the system must be abolished and eradicated... literally destroyed from the fabric of economics... 
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...millennials-now-reject-capitalism-poll-shows/

"Young people could be saying that there are problems with capitalism, contradictions," Frank Newport, the editor in chief of Gallup, said when asked about the new data. "I certainly don't know what’s going through their heads."

I think this guy understands it. I'm a millennial, and I don't reject the idea of capitalism - I reject the idea that America is still practicing capitalism. It isn't. America hasn't really been a free market economy since the 1930s, when the first subsidies were given to Oil Companies in the form of delepetion allowances and drilling cost write offs - some of our first major tax loop holes. Congress attempted to close some of these loop holes in the 1940s and 1950s, but by then, it was too late. Companies had already figured out that they could influence Congress by lobbying key members. President Truman alluded to that influence in a letter he wrote to Congress in 1950.

President Eisenhower doubled down on Truman's message and warned the American public about the influence of lobbyists. He said it best:

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. For the potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist."

While we could go on about the use of America's military industrial complex to influence economics on a global scale, it's a topic for another day. The thing to focus on is Eisenhower's warning of influence. The companies that sit at the top of the economic food chain understand the power of influence, just look at the the political contributions that some of America's largest companies make every year. Many of those groups contribute the GDP of multiple nations on a yearly basis.

While corporations argue that its within their right to participate in the election process, we know that they are trying to protect and guarantee their corporate interests in doing so. Those contributions go towards maintaining and creating new subsidies, tax holes, and "trade agreements" (see: NAFTA, TPP, etc) that maintain the illusion of a free market, while in reality the market is anything but free.
 
I don't know about anywhere else, but capitalism is a must for America to thrive. You want nice things you have to pay for them.

Nice things like military and local police protection, among other amenities.

As a Millennial, the older I get the more I realize Baby Boomers (most of our parents) were idiots and screwed us all.

They continue to screw us all with their "liberal jazz", which is just an excuse to do what they want without regard for the future.





There's a difference between being radical and just being spoiled and don't know really know ****. That was our parents. Do your research.
Frederick Douglass was a radical, but he also affiliated himself with the Republican party. Which I feel is more grounded in reality and has done more for this country than any other political party in American history.


If Millennials reject anything, I say a full on rebellion against the left leaning ideals Baby Boomers have established.

 
 
Whatever you call it, it has failed a lot of people. I think Bush SR. Called it "voodoo economics". Which is probably a better name, because it's all smoke and mirrors.
 
Capitalism? Nah.

Crony capitalism? Yes.

Crony capitalism is a natural evolution of pure capitalism. Either way you look at it its capitalism and its eating itself.

I dont agree with everything in this video, nor am I a Marxist, but this guy makes a lot of great points on the subject of capitalism and the publics realization that it doesn't work and that its time for something different.

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I don't know about anywhere else, but capitalism is a must for America to thrive. You want nice things you have to pay for them.

Nice things like military and local police protection, among other amenities.

As a Millennial, the older I get the more I realize Baby Boomers (most of our parents) were idiots and screwed us all.
 
These are socialist institutions. Government provided through our tax dollars = socialist.
 
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Sure is, and this how you know the folks who throw around those words have no clue what they are talking about, and allow others to think for them. It's the same handful of folks on here too, it's pretty hilarious and cringey at the same time.
 
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I don't know about anywhere else, but capitalism is a must for America to thrive. You want nice things you have to pay for them.


Nice things like military and local police protection, among other amenities.


As a Millennial, the older I get the more I realize Baby Boomers (most of our parents) were idiots and screwed us all.


They continue to screw us all with their "liberal jazz", which is just an excuse to do what they want without regard for the future.






There's a difference between being radical and just being spoiled and don't know really know ****. That was our parents. Do your research.

Frederick Douglass was a radical, but he also affiliated himself with the Republican party. Which I feel is more grounded in reality and has done more for this country than any other political party in American history.



If Millennials reject anything, I say a full on rebellion against the left leaning ideals Baby Boomers have established.


 

That Republican Party is not the same as the GOP of today.
 
 
These are socialist institutions. Government provided through our tax dollars = socialist.
Sure is, and this how you know the folks who throw around those words have no clue what they are talking about, and allows others to think for them. It's the same handful of folks on here too, it's pretty hilarious and cringey at the same time.
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 ...here you have it folks, this is what the democratic-conservative tax dollars you pay looks like these days.

And it clearly validates my OP in this thread.





...military and local law enforcement is a government service, which protects and maintains our capitalist society. 
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Without it, we'd be living in a state of chaos and tyranny similar to some African, Middle Eastern, and Latin countries, under some sort of monarchy, dictatorship, or terrorism.

Which is exactly what the Revolutionary War fought to end, and make America a REPUBLIC.

We elect officials to regulate these services for us, paid for with tax dollars. Otherwise we'd still be giving our hard earned money to the British Crown.

"Taxation without representation"

'When you go to your public library, when you call your Fire Department or the Police Department, what do you think you’re calling?'...These are socialist institutions.' - Bernie Sanders
 

"Socialist Institution"?, okay 
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@rillo561  ...we're in total agreement, "brother". It's totally hilarious and cringe-worthy to see someone talk about things they have no clue on. Especially with boisterous conviction just to attempt to hurt someone's feelings who they perceive are weak and alone, just because they themselves feel that way in their personal OPINION.

It's called inferiority complex, lashing out in aggression to compensate for a sense of inadequacy. Basically being a hater.

Sadly, that's what many members of the Democratic party do, these types of liberals can become dangerous to our society, and lead many people to their doom.

Like Hitler, and his NAZI regime, who were liberal socialist, which is short for  "National Socialist German Workers' Party".  
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THEY, had no clue about certain social systems, and attempted to overthrow the world around them.

Simply because one man didn't like a certain group of people, and made them the target of his frustration derived from cowardly feelings of inadequacy.

...and we see how that turned out in the end, right? 
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