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Why do people look down on people who do "blue collar" jobs?
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Same individuals turning yet another thread into an unnecessary pissing contest.
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Omg look at me, I didn't go to school, I work with all men and we use tools like cavemen. I'm blue collar.
I know about people like you, sit the hell down.
**** you Lionblood, How about this, I'm 20 years old pulling in $34 an hour, have a great pension plan set up, full benefits, and by age 24 I'll be pulling in over $60 an hour without owing a dollar to anybody, all because I was smart enough to know college wasn't for me. Not educated? I'm a craftsman, you couldn't do the things I do every single day.
Real talk, i dunno anyone in a technical blue collar job who is making anything less than 80k. Alot of my friends went to aviation High School to became airplane mechanics...dudes is cleaning up now
Da best choice i ever made is switch my major to automotive tech, some of my old colleagues are already technicians in BMW & VW dealerships. Every semester, a couple of Representatives come by and offer students tentative apprenticeships that spawn into full fledged careers, great money..and no dealing with stuffy office bull ****.
That what I thought too
Manual labor
So doctors, dentists, engineers, scientists are included?
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One of my friends just passed her nail tech State exam and now she is about to open her own salon. Her parents own one in South Dakota and easily pulling in around 100-150k a year after expenses including income taxes. Not a bad gig considering you own your business, hire outside contractors (to avoid payroll taxes) to run the place, and the best part.... a percentage of the income isn't reported cause it's a cash transaction type of industry if you know what I mean. The funny part is that she also has a law degree.
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I don't look down on anyone out here holding a job and grinding, even escorts, strippers and such. The beauty of capitalism is that if you have hustle then flourish. Get paid and live your life, anyone with an opinion tell them cut a check or bounce. 
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Dudes out here installing/fixing HVAC units are making $$$$$
Same can be said for plumbers.
Same can be said for plumbers.
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Where the welders at....holla if ya hear me
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I never distinguish between white or blue collar..to me that's mad pretentious
I always look at it as a good job, decent income, benefits, pension, etc.
I always look at it as a good job, decent income, benefits, pension, etc.
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Ninja,I'll send you a pm later on about the automotive tech field if you don't mind. I have some questions .Omg look at me, I didn't go to school, I work with all men and we use tools like cavemen. I'm blue collar.
I know about people like you, sit the hell down.
**** you Lionblood, How about this, I'm 20 years old pulling in $34 an hour, have a great pension plan set up, full benefits, and by age 24 I'll be pulling in over $60 an hour without owing a dollar to anybody, all because I was smart enough to know college wasn't for me. Not educated? I'm a craftsman, you couldn't do the things I do every single day.
Real talk, i dunno anyone in a technical blue collar job who is making anything less than 80k. Alot of my friends went to aviation High School to became airplane mechanics...dudes is cleaning up now
Da best choice i ever made is switch my major to automotive tech, some of my old colleagues are already technicians in BMW & VW dealerships. Every semester, a couple of Representatives come by and offer students tentative apprenticeships that spawn into full fledged careers, great money..and no dealing with stuffy office bull ****.
That what I thought too
Manual labor
So doctors, dentists, engineers, scientists are included?
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We as people are born into means that normalize, cast doubt on or dissuade individuals from thinking certain possibilities are possible. Motivation, and the ability to think something can actually happen, are extremely powerful.
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throw in heavy equip operators\mechanics as well. Used to do counseling for job corps and young cats was getting 35\hr if getting in with union. Def paid more than soft trades they had like med asst\cna programs
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To me, the whole college vs no-college thing (on here at least) ends up like religion vs non-religion threads. Always think it's weird for people to look down on others wanting to go to college and advance their education for higher income, while at the same time other people looking down on people who managed to flourish in fields without going. As long as you're legally providing, don't see the problem.
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Different strokes for different folks. Some people just are not meant to be in office jobs and vice versa. I like making money while sitting in a cool/heated office with yoga mats in the cafeteria. I tried to put my brother on a white-collar job and I am glad he didn't take it. He's in construction now doing what's best for him and making $ doing it.
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It's a choice for some, but that's also a protection to say that. Some don't look at it like that because the societal norm in their upbringing meant they better end up there at age 18 because that's how it's done in that family, some call it a choice because looking back and actually weighing what that choice really truly shaped is sometimes too complex to be introspective, so sub-atomically or below the consciousness level we're saying it's a choice and concurrently trying to decide ourselves if that's really true or something we just said for too long.
As colleges hike tuition some 50 percent in a span of four years (like what has happened all around the country in recent years) the choice aspect becomes muddied even further.
As colleges hike tuition some 50 percent in a span of four years (like what has happened all around the country in recent years) the choice aspect becomes muddied even further.
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Abstract via CSHE: The California Idea and American Higher Education, 1850 to the 1960 Master Plan
http://www.cshe.berkeley.edu/public...erican-higher-education-1850-1960-master-plan
http://www.cshe.berkeley.edu/public...erican-higher-education-1850-1960-master-plan
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I knew a few guys who were in a union in NYC who made good $, but HARDLY ever worked
*There's really something to be said about learning a trade early on in your life before accruing a lot of student loan debt (if you choose the college route).
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know a plumber that is doing real well. he owns his own company now and usually works from the office. still enjoys rolling up his sleeves and working outside
my uncle fixes planes and been doing it for 25+ yrs. he lives pretty frugal, but i know he makes pretty damn good money
there's always a need for these type of jobs
thinking about getting into to the mmj industry
my uncle fixes planes and been doing it for 25+ yrs. he lives pretty frugal, but i know he makes pretty damn good money
there's always a need for these type of jobs
thinking about getting into to the mmj industry
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I knew a few guys who were in a union in NYC who made good $, but HARDLY ever worked
*There's really something to be said about learning a trade early on in your life before accruing a lot of student loan debt (if you choose the college route).
The unions in NYC are OD, New York city nurses are notorious for not doing their jobs because they are unionized.
It's interesting that people assume people in these trade jobs don't have debt, trade schools like Trump University and ITT Tech don't have the resources to fund financial AID
Harvard has the endowment that rivals many COUNTRIES and can cover your grants if you NEED it.
I'm talking about learning a trade starting in HS. Which is something that Bloomberg suggested.
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I've never associated doctors as white collared jobs to be honest. I just considered white-colored as people working in front of their computers all say or giving presentations in a conference room.
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Lionblood's random hatred for Ninjahood...
We get it. You say you know the blue-collar life and expected "the work you put in" to make you feel different and you feel the same so you have to divide yourself and why you're different from the people you see as representations of where you came from. You thought the end goal would fix your self-identity and why it was worth it but you don't feel different). Money's good, opportunities are available? It is great, but it never changed your self identity right? Yeah... you don't feel different and you're waging war with it obviously by these offhanded patronizing remarks you're laying on Ninjahood's existence w/o realizing you are revealing how much you're struggling with something.
We get it. You say you know the blue-collar life and expected "the work you put in" to make you feel different and you feel the same so you have to divide yourself and why you're different from the people you see as representations of where you came from. You thought the end goal would fix your self-identity and why it was worth it but you don't feel different). Money's good, opportunities are available? It is great, but it never changed your self identity right? Yeah... you don't feel different and you're waging war with it obviously by these offhanded patronizing remarks you're laying on Ninjahood's existence w/o realizing you are revealing how much you're struggling with something.
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We have such a system here in Belgium. It works very well.
Basically we have 3 main educational systems starting from the 7th grade. Simply put (not the actual names): A, B and C levels.
In those main categories there's a various amount of "subjects" students can pick. Each subject has a set of classes, several that are specific to the subject and a set of general classes. 7th and 8th grade are somewhat generalized, your decision in the 9th grade is final until you graduate but you can move down the ladder, for example dropping from A to B/C levels, if you fail to keep up or decide to pursue another subject. In most cases you can't switch to a different subject in the same tier.
A levels are almost entirely theoretical and are specifically designed for students that intend to pursue higher education.
While being the highest level of hs education, an A levels hs degree isn't worth much if you don't go to college/university.
Examples of A levels subjects are math, modern languages, human sciences, Greek-Latin, math-Latin, 8h/week math, ...
I graduated in human sciences, A levels. My main classes specifically tied to the subject were behavioral and cultural sciences for example.
B levels are kind of the hybrid between A and C levels. The difficulty level is lower than that of A levels but you also get practical experience and graduate with a business license. Examples of B levels subjects are accounting, retail, mechanics, chemistry, ...
The idea is that you can go straight to work in your field after graduation but the theoretical aspect is still sufficient to prepare you for college if you want to.
C levels is focused heavily on manual skills with a minimal amount of theoretical classes. It contains subjects like cooking, hairdressing, gardening, construction, ...
Lots of practical experience and focus on going straight to work and/or starting your own business. College is strongly advised against because the theoretical aspect is minimized. I believe the passing rate for C levels graduates attempting college is around 3% to give you an idea.
Probably sounds a little confusing but overall I think it's a great system.
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