Developing Story: SHOOTING at T.I show in NYC : 1 dead, 3 injured

KingKoopa said:
 
Someone put one in yo moms head, guess you just gone keep it gansta on the stand huh?

Yall sound ******ed.
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This. Snitching is what Williiam Gant did to D'Angelo to get himself clapped in S01E01 of The Wire. Snitching is what Sammy Gravano did to John Gotti and the rest of the Gambino family to get all his murder charges dropped.

Tipping off the police when someone you're close with is affected. That's NOT snitching
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You're actually a moron if you try to play vigilante hero, cause you're either gonna get murked or thrown in prison yourself.
 
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KingKoopa said:
FrankMatthews said:
Yes it is.
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NO ITS NOT.

I hated how everyone was callin TI a snitch as well.

What he supposed to just let that ride?

Snitching is when your tellin on people your involved with to get a lighter sentence period.

Cam got yo dumb *** thinkin its not cool to call the police if you find out Dahmer was your neighbor.
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Isnt that what he would be doing? Telling on someone he was involved with to get a lighter sentence?

You cant go starting beef in the club, going the street route, then get to pointing fingers cause you got your man killed. He didnt wanna go the judicial route to resolve what ever issues he had with dude, but now that you instigated a murder you wanna run and tell everything? Na thats snitching.

You just regurgitating what youve heard about snitching. You're not grasping the concept, you on the outside looking in. I know dudes who snitched and i know dudes who sat down for a decade. Cam or any other rapper doesnt need to tell me anything, is that where your opinions on street issues come from? Rappers? Lmao. You involved in street altercations, you dont go run your mouth to the police when its all said and done. Period.
 
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FrankMatthews said:
Isnt that what he would be doing? Telling on someone he was involved with to get a lighter sentence?

You cant go starting beef in the club, going the street route, then get to pointing fingers cause you got your man killed. He didnt wanna go the judicial route to resolve what ever issues he had with dude, but now that you instigated a murder you wanna run and tell everything? Na thats snitching.

You just regurgitating what youve heard about snitching. You're not grasping the concept, you on the outside looking in. I know dudes who snitched and i know dudes who sat down for a decade. Cam or any other rapper doesnt need to tell me anything, is that where your opinions on street issues come from? Rappers? Lmao. You involved in street altercations, you dont go run your mouth to the police when its all said and done. Period.
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From what I've gathered through this thread was that some Tax dude starting poppin off first, killed his boy and Troy was just defending himself.

I haven't commented on this particular situation just what I originally quoted so we might be misunderstanding each other.

And as for your last paragraph
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Uncle did 17 straight.

Homie just got out from doin 18 months up state.

Another ***** serving 7.

I know what I'm talkin bout.

And I know there are a bunch fools who believe talkin to the police in ANY situation is considered snitching.
 
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GetBack said:
KingKoopa said:
 
Someone put one in yo moms head, guess you just gone keep it gansta on the stand huh?

Yall sound ******ed.
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This. Snitching is what Williiam Gant did to D'Angelo to get himself clapped in S01E01 of The Wire. Snitching is what Sammy Gravano did to John Gotti and the rest of the Gambino family to get all his murder charges dropped.

Tipping off the police when someone you're close with is affected. That's NOT snitching :lol:

You're actually a moron if you try to play vigilante hero, cause you're either gonna get murked or thrown in prison yourself.
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Troy Ave is in this predicament thinking he was Frank Castle... :smh:
 
The root of this no snitching thing is people don't trust cops. Cops have done a lot of dirt to a certain group of people so they don't trust them. They don't wanna deal with cops period. And good cops don't tell on dirty cops so this "no snitching" thing ain't just in the hood. The people that are supposed to uphold the law have made those rules.


We still don't know all the details yet so I can't even say what Troy should do or if he's a snitch if he talks. Some dudes won't say **** no matter what like Suge. He knew who killed Pac but he wanted to handle it himself but he wasn't facing a potential accidental murder.
 
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KingKoopa said:
FrankMatthews said:
Isnt that what he would be doing? Telling on someone he was involved with to get a lighter sentence?


You cant go starting beef in the club, going the street route, then get to pointing fingers cause you got your man killed. He didnt wanna go the judicial route to resolve what ever issues he had with dude, but now that you instigated a murder you wanna run and tell everything? Na thats snitching.


You just regurgitating what youve heard about snitching. You're not grasping the concept, you on the outside looking in. I know dudes who snitched and i know dudes who sat down for a decade. Cam or any other rapper doesnt need to tell me anything, is that where your opinions on street issues come from? Rappers? Lmao. You involved in street altercations, you dont go run your mouth to the police when its all said and done. Period.
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From what I've gathered through this thread was that some Tax dude starting poppin off first, killed his boy and Troy was just defending himself.

I haven't commented on this particular situation just what I originally quoted so we might be misunderstanding each other.

And as for your last paragraph :lol: .

Uncle did 17 straight.

Homie just got out from doin 18 months up state.

Another ***** serving 7.

I know what I'm talkin bout.

And I know there are a bunch fools who believe talkin to the police in ANY situation is considered snitching.
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From what was said in here the tax dude had been talking greasy online/podcast for awhile and when they bumped heads in the club troy snuffed him and shots ensued. You wanna confront him on some street ****, cant be running to the police when you get bested. So yeah, maybe you misunderstood what happened, if that story is even factual.
 
There's a difference between understandably not trusting the police, not wanting to work with them vs being a victim seeking help, defending yourself, vs

ratting to save your own ***

these things have all somehow unfairly IMO been thrown under the same snitching umbrella, just seems twisted
 
KingKoopa said:
FrankMatthews said:
You involved in street altercations, you dont go run your mouth to the police when its all said and done. Period.
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Wait!?

What the **** are we disagreeing on? :rofl:
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We're disagreeing on the fact that you think this situation is in any way, shape or form relatable to someone randomly shooting your mother in the head or a serial killer living next door to you.

And for the record, i dont think taking the law into your own hands is the right thing to do, i can understand it in some cases, but im not advocating that. Im just saying, you cant pick and choose when to be a tough guy and when you wanna be righteous.
 
If you doin dirt or involved w/ some nonsense and you get booked and you give a statement about others involved who didn't get booked,that's snitchin.

Now if the dudes in the bar area where things popped off gave a statement, that's not snitchin because they didn't have anything to do w the situation.
 
Even if they're charging him with crimes he didn't commit? While he's already in police custody?

I'm not talking about letting off the shot in the club. But if they put Banga's murder on him and that gun when it wasn't him?

I know what it's going to look like no matter what. But I don't look at that as snitching via the definition I've always known.

I think the term being thrown around as loosely as it is already sets a bad precedent.

It could just come down to "someone pulled a burner, let off shots, I wrestled the gun away". Without naming the shooter.

But he might have to say, "yea, I walked up to this dude named _ that I got a problem with and snuffed him and then......".

That's snitching?

****** up situation all around. Shame dudes can't shoot the 5 anymore and handle **** like men.
 
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Wow. Dudes be typin like they know what it is to be jammed up, yet, post some suspect opinions. Buncha ratas actin tough.
 
Dudes don't even know what snitching is. If you cooperate with police in any manner and have your name on paperwork implicating someone else in a crime then you're not living in any jail anywhere. Your *** will be checked off immediately.
 
It's a website. We "typin". Nobody's jammed up. It's a conversation.

And that's what it is......talk. A lot of cats say one thing one day and it's something different the next or when they REALLY do get jammed up anyway so none of this is gospel.

I was in school. So I'm not even pretending like I'm the authority on "the streets" or prison.

Back then, I had my little hustle. Got caught one night. Just campus police. Got away. I get picked up an hour later at my crib because dude I was with gave my name. Almost got kicked out. This is a true story.

THAT dude to me is a ******* snitch.

The scenario I laid out to me is some different ****. But if I got it wrong, I'm OK with that.

I don't expect this to be something I deal with firsthand again any time soon.

Still a lot of details we don't know and no one else has been picked up so it's crazy to me that the word is even being thrown around as much as it is.

If someone else gets picked up, seems like it's already a lose/lose for Troy.
 
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Again if you as a father are playing thug music to your kid, this issue is way deeper than music. Carry on thoug
DCMADE said:
This dude can't be serious.
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Titanium Tea said:
People are really more upset at a white guy stereotyping gangsta rap than a man murdering people in a crowded room.
It's unfortunate.
Here in canada we literally all learned of guns , gangs and crack through rap music.
We have thousands of kids who grew up affluent, that still want to join the music promoted lifestyle.
Out there selling drugs because of the thousands of cool images theyve been bombarded with.

Kids with good grades and both parents.

If art reflects real life, why exactly does it all of a sudden not work the other way around.

Its messed up because I love hip hop but I know damn well that had it never happened Canada would be a better place to live.
Legit question to black people

Do you feel life was better before? Or does crack taking over at the same time just kind of confuse hip hops influence on the subject.

I ask as we never had a crack boom but def felt raps affects
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What the hell are you talking about????

You need to take your little ideas and keep em to yourself. Here in canada we learned about guns from hiphop?? dog thats you. Because you a lame that uses hip hop to create a reality, dont use it as the whole of Canada.

Simply to put your dumbness away, Hells angels. The montreal Italian mafia connections. Both of those have nothing to do with hiphop and both have been around since 70s. But you just a little kid caught up in some hip hop.

Wagwaan mi yout? bro parkdale cats would smack you.

Nothing in this thread angered me more than these comments to be honest, it was the most childish thing said. Canada would be better with out hip hop??? where do you think like that? you must be a Drake fan.


WOW i also just saw the "legit question to black people" part. Yea i shouldnt have even replied to you.
 
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KiefUrban said:
Dudes don't even know what snitching is. If you cooperate with police in any manner and have your name on paperwork implicating someone else in a crime then you're not living in any jail anywhere. Your *** will be checked off immediately.
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If you cooperate to save yourself, yes that's snitching.

If you cooperate when someone broke into your house and shot your son, that's NOT snitching.
 
We need a poll so we can see how many folks think Troy is supposed to eat a murder he didn't commit for the sake of not "snitching"
 
if you cooperate to save yourself
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This.

If you decided to be in the **** u better live with the consequences.

Like if u get cought for servin dope and they ask u who the plugg is in exchange for reduced or no time lesser charge etc
 
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illphillip said:
Way to continue to prove my point.

You're watching maybe 5 seconds of a situation on video with no idea what happened before that in the room that dudes are walking out of.

I already said Troy shouldn't have pulled that trigger. But I can see circumstances where I could understand him doing so. I don't know that those circumstances were present.

But I'm also not saying stupid **** like "Troy's men failed him" when one died and Troy's still alive. At least not until more details come to light.

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illphillip said:
The dude running is definitely Banga? That's been confirmed?
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I meant the dude who runs after that.
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i understand why he would shoot too, still makes it a mistake to throw away your freedom when you don't appear to be in danger.
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This all makes sense on why Tax ain't tweet about it yet. TROY AVE was shooting at him [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]

Guess we saw who was about it and who wasn't.
 
Soundview said:
This all makes sense on why Tax ain't tweet about it yet. TROY AVE was shooting at him [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]

Guess we saw who was about it and who wasn't.
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Not that it's anything admirable...

But Troy is the one with a leg wound and a dead homie...
 
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