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Thats the problem.
On NT everything has to be one extreme or the other.
No one is saying that Hip Hop is the ONLY factor, but the people that try to act like it has no effect are just wrong.

And just to clear something up. Hip hop IS NOT the problem.
Hip hop was and is a culture that includes several different forms of positive expression such as Djing, B-boying, MCing, Graffiti, ,etc.
This culture actually had a positive effect on people in terms of creativity and conflict resolution.

The problem IS NOT gangsta rap as it was in the 80s.
Gangsta rap, back then when NWA hit the scene, was more of a news report of things that were actually happening in the hood, as a way to shed light on the social injustices that were being swept under the rug in our communities.

I dont even blame Master P, The Hot Boys and others in the 90s that lived the life. The ones that actually sold the drugs because they came up right in the middle of the crack epidemic. Some took advantage of crack being an actual way of making money, due to the fact that there werent drug task forces and satellites zooming down from space. They lived the life and were just telling us their stories.

IMO the problem came in with the Trap Rappers who glorify a life they never lived, which is most of these dudes.
They give the false illusion that the streets made them and that rapping is just something they do to clean up the massive amounts of drug money that they have,
when in actuality its the other way around. They get massive amounts of money by making up stories about things they NEVER did.

They make it seem like you can actually make a career out of selling drugs. In 2016 that is a lie. No newcomer can grind their way up to a several mills or a billy hustling dope these days. There is too much surveillance, and ACTUAL snitches out there to flourish. They promote a lifestyle that has been proven time and time again to be a one way ticket straight to prison or the grave. A lifestyle that they themselves never lived. And as long as they make it look cool there will always be some that think they can emulate the rappers's made up results, which of course they cant because it was made up in the 1st place.

Their music has nothing to do with informing people of whats happening in our hoods, or telling about their life's stories and experiences.
Its all a lie designed to trick young people into giving away their rights and freedoms voluntarily.
 
Crime is at all time low in NYC and has been on a decline since the 70's.
So rap music I the reason NYC is great.
There was no 42 street/Disneyland back in the 90's. :wow:
Just some food for thought.
The NYC commish is just a racist ****.
SMD commish.
 
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Why doesn't anyone ever credit positive music for good behavior? :nerd:
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Positive music gets credit but the media doesnt push it as much.

Also you hear stories all the time about how a positive song helped a person through a difficult situation in their life.
 
View media item 2049651Album of the Year, Record of the Year for Random Access Memories

Positive music gets credit but the media doesnt push it as much.

Also you hear stories all the time about how a positive song helped a person through a difficult situation in their life.

Awards, praise, and the therapeutic nature of music are not the same thing as the direct attribution of certain behaviors to certain genres
 
 
Movies and TV are stories with actors.

Rock and roll didn't sing about killing people and selling crack...
Plenty of movies based on actual events. Goodfellas, Braveheart, 300, American History X, Gladiator, American Gangster. Pretty sure the images seen in those leave more lasting impressions with viewers than anything you hear on a rap record. And I still wouldn't blame those movies.

There's more elements to violent crime than a song.
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The statement about rock music is wrong, so it's not worth responding to.
 
Living in poverty with no resources causes crime. Throughout history living in the hood has resulted in crime. Inner cities in the early 20th century were crime filled when Irish, Italians, and other European immigrants lived in ghettos. Now blacks, hispanics, and other minorities occupy ghettos and crime occurs. Street Hip-hop just highlights the harsh realities of living in the ghetto. We can't blame hip hop for societal issues. Provide resources for ghetto residents and street rappers won't have anything to talk about.
 
Plenty of movies based on actual events. Goodfellas, Braveheart, 300, American History X, Gladiator, American Gangster. Pretty sure the images seen in those leave more lasting impressions with viewers than anything you hear on a rap record. And I still wouldn't blame those movies.

There's more elements to violent crime than a song.
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The statement about rock music is wrong, so it's not worth responding to.
They're still movies that at least show the consequences of doing crime like jail and murder. 

Modern hip hop is 90% bragging about what you got and that you're a bum if you don't got it. For a impressionable kid in the hood it's pretty much telling them that they are losers unless they're getting fast money. 

Number of rock videos where they're cooking crack on a stove - 0

Number of rap videos where they're cooking crack on a stove - 7,883
 
Living in poverty with no resources causes crime. Throughout history living in the hood has resulted in crime. Inner cities in the early 20th century were crime filled when Irish, Italians, and other European immigrants lived in ghettos. Now blacks, hispanics, and other minorities occupy ghettos and crime occurs. Street Hip-hop just highlights the harsh realities of living in the ghetto. We can't blame hip hop for societal issues. Provide resources for ghetto residents and street rappers won't have anything to talk about.
No resources ? In 2016 ? 
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At least in the early 20th century there actually was not a lot of resources.
 
There were resources in the early 20th century just not for black people.
 
Go to school, graduate, go to college (Or not), get a job. What don't you understand ?
It's hard to do that when the quality of education is determined on where you live. I mean research shows that inner cities lack reputable schools, access to jobs, etc.
 
"The character Tony Montana went from poor to mad rich by selling coke. He made tons of young cats want to sell cocaine too, including me."
-Azie Faison

"After watching Scarface, I wanted to be the Tony Montana of Harlem. I easily made more than $40000 a week, and became a millionaire before reaching voting age. I was on a paper chase."
-Azie Faison

Both from his book.

So why not the criticism for Oliver Stone?

Explain this to me with statements you can back up with concrete evidence and not broad generalizations.
 
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It's hard to do that when the quality of education is determined on where you live. I mean research shows that inner cities lack reputable schools, access to jobs, etc.
So you can only work in your neighborhood ? Can't take a bus downtown ?

We could go back and forth all day but i'd rather not.
 
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