How important is high school? ??

Colombia said:
Antidope said:
Yeah I doubt it happens again but still high school grades are the primary factor in deciding what college you can go to if going to college is something you aspire to do.
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HS grades shouldn't affect higher education opportunities imo. 
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It's probably because this is all I've ever known about this way of doing things but I see nothing wrong with this. How else are they going to grant/deny entry. Money? Can't let everyone in either.
 
Antidope said:
It's probably because this is all I've ever known about this way of doing things but I see nothing wrong with this. How else are they going to grant/deny entry. Money? Can't let everyone in either.
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Wouldn't work in the US, at least not with the current education system, but colleges/universities accept all applications here. With the exception of entry exams for certain bachelors/masters. Everyone can go to whatever college/uni they want with a hs diploma. Maximum tuition fees are €890/year at the top university. €470 on a partial scholarship, €105 on a full scholarship. These scholarships are awarded based on financials, not grades.
 
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Yeah that would never fly here ever. Stuffs never changing, best you can do is just make sure you handle your business so you never have to worry.
 
no lie, I should have messed around more in high school. Was always worried about college and didn't even go for like an 1/8 of a year.
 
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Yeah that would never fly here ever. Stuffs never changing, best you can do is just make sure you handle your business so you never have to worry.
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Low-cost tuition would be the first major step towards a better educational system. Both Hillary and Bernie have made that one of their major policies.

It will probably happen at some point in the future. It's ridiculous that a developed nation is charging such outrageous tuition fees that people need to take out loans to go to college. People are gonna get tired of that at some point.
 
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GPA didn't matter in my career paths but having a HS Diploma was vital to any kind of foundation of career building.

The girl in the OP sorta comes off as an idiot,
If college is her desired foundation path then she definenlty put herself at a disadvantage.

If military,trade or just straight hard working hustle are her plans then I understand.

Not everyone is built like that though when it comes to hard working hustle or trade.

People around me who are college grads always get bitter at my income and lifestyle compared to thiers saying life aint fair because they went to school and can't get a job near secure and high paying as mine.

I just sit back and think to myself" It's because you aren't me.
You aren't built like me.
You don't have a way with people like me.
You have not been through the same life path as me to build the character of me.

That's why everyone has thier own unique different paths in life.
Just don't hate when someone lives wealthier successful than you and you feel its unfair based off of academic work ethic alone.

Academic work ethic and drive is only one out of many things that land you success and prosperity in life.

I feel for people with this mindset and mentality.
"But...but I went to 6 years of college and have a degree its not fair"
 
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Colombia said:
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Yeah that would never fly here ever. Stuffs never changing, best you can do is just make sure you handle your business so you never have to worry.
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Low-cost tuition would be the first major step towards a better educational system. Both Hillary and Bernie have made that one of their major policies.
It will probably happen at some point in the future. It's ridiculous that a developed nation is charging such outrageous tuition fees that people need to take out loans to go to college. People are gonna get tired of that at some point.
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Can't really stop what the private schools do though, and there will always be demand for a number of them because a lot of their appeal lies within name/legacy.
 
Didn't walk at my graduation, actually graduated late and didn't receive my diploma till November. My GPA was a 2.4, going into my fourth semester of college and I have a 3.25 GPA. People always told me I'm smart but I just needed to actually apply myself and do the work. Took their advice and I'm only getting better and better grades. I refuse to live my life working at a dead end job, I'm going to make it in life. That's why I see college as truly giving it my all, that bachelors will open doors.
 
Colombia said:
Antidope said:
It's probably because this is all I've ever known about this way of doing things but I see nothing wrong with this. How else are they going to grant/deny entry. Money? Can't let everyone in either.
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Wouldn't work in the US, at least not with the current education system, but colleges/universities accept all applications here. With the exception of entry exams for certain bachelors/masters. Everyone can go to whatever college/uni they want with a hs diploma. Maximum tuition fees are €890/year at the top university. €470 on a partial scholarship, €105 on a full scholarship. These scholarships are awarded based on financials, not grades.
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Well a lot of aid awarded in the US is based on financial need. Though the whole FAFSA system can be played. My experience is a prime example as I went to a relatively high end prep school with a lot of well off families where we had financial planners come to school and talk to the parents to help set up their finances in such a way as to maximize aid received.

It worked for my mom and many other of my classmates. Most aid received in the US is partially based on grades, but it usually only requires one to maintain a 3.0 or 3.2 which isn't hard to do. But I mean I was admitted into my undergrad university with 90% of the tuition covered. Hell a friend of mine went to the same univ as me and paid $5 per semester and that was with him living in a dorm. So the system can be played. Problem is the rich are the only ones who have the opportunity to play it.
 
None of my employers have ever asked for my hs or college gpa. Usually employers just verify through background checks that you went to hs and college, those reports don't show gpa.
 
derrty6232 said:
None of my employers have ever asked for my hs or college gpa. Usually employers just verify through background checks that you went to hs and college, those reports don't show gpa.
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I had to pull my transcript for college and turn it in in to my employer, and they called both places. I know they called my high school because I had to sign a release form for the high school, and the person in the guidance office called me back to let me know they called.
 
The compartmentalization of our educational system, clearly, doesn't reflect the fact that true knowledge and understanding builds on itself. Can you get by if you dismiss one stage in the formal educational system? Sure, there's some evidence for this. But this is always the exception and not the rule. You're ultimately doing yourself--and society at large--a disservice when you dismiss the value of secondary education. But, if we are to make this a meaningful discussion, perhaps we should reframe the original question/post; after all, the term high school recalls so much more than actual learning.

So, instead of asking if "high school" is important, let's rather ask if secondary education matters? But let's not stop there: does primary and/or elementary education matter? What about education--the process of receiving knowledge in a formalized manner. Does that even matter?

When the object of discussion is framed in this manner, I think it becomes too clear what's really good. I think it becomes clear that the girl in the OP is only playing herself in the long run.





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I didn't really care in high school until mid junior year. I did just enough to get by until then because I didn't know how important gpa was.

Graduated with like a 2.2, forgot my rank but it was nothing special.

Made a 22 on the act, I prepared for that a little bit.

I buckled down in college though, graduated with honors, 3.4 gpa.

School system is just something to keep you occupied until you're an adult. After about grade 7,they teach you absolutely nothing that you'll need in real life.

They force stuff like trigonometry down your throat and tell you nothing about doing your taxes or molding you for your possible career.
 
:lol: at employers pulling hs and college grades ...all they look at is if you graduated or not, and what school u went to

"O u graduated from Harvard but with just a 2.2 tho , think we'll go with hs grad that had a 4.0 a decade ago" :lol:
 
frshstunna said:
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at employers pulling hs and college grades ...all they look at is if you graduated or not, and what school u went to

 
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yeah im calling ducktales...i've been asking people about this and they all laughed at how foolish that sounds
 
Why would I be making this up? Especially the college portion, a large number of places have GPA floors for applicants, this isn't some foreign concept.

All I said was my current employer pulled my high school GPA, never said it was a common practice.
 
Grades in high school don't really matter, but some of the friends I made in high school I've stayed friends with. Closer with them than anyone I met in college.

I'd say socializing and making close friends is the most important part of high school honestly. Even if you barely graduate, you can go to a community college (save money that way anyway) and transfer to a better university later.
 
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Why would I be making this up? Especially the college portion, a large number of places have GPA floors for applicants, this isn't some foreign concept.

All I said was my current employer pulled my high school GPA, never said it was a common practice.
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Were you asked any questions about your high school grades?
 
sea manup said:
Antidope said:
Why would I be making this up? Especially the college portion, a large number of places have GPA floors for applicants, this isn't some foreign concept.

All I said was my current employer pulled my high school GPA, never said it was a common practice.
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Were you asked any questions about your high school grades?
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No,it was higher than what I told them it was initially, it wasn't an issue. If it was bad then it would have been.
 
Depends on the type of person you are imo.

Funny cause I never really fell into one spectrum... One of my closest boys, captain of the varsity basketball team (still one of my closest homies to this day).

Another one of my homies I grew up with... Star of the football team, including 85% of the team I was coo with 40% I came up with.

So on and so on.

I took all honors classes, and in my school being a black dude in honors classes was like entering a parallel universe where somehow in a predominantly black school I was maybe 1 of 2-3 black kids in a class of 20+.

Had nerdy friends, had the most popular friends, was coo with dudes that spent all day playing video games and staying home, was coo with dudes that did nothing but party, had latin/indian friends from extracurriculars, had plenty of white friends from class every day, had majority black friends cause that's who I spent 90% of my free time with..

Thread really made me realize how diverse my upbringing was 
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But I would say depending on how HS treated you learn to accept the lessons for what it was, but don't let it define you.

I've seen dudes who won't ever grow out of their HS mindset.. Dudes where HS was the last W they'll ever seize in their lives.. Dudes who had situations in HS shape who they are as a person for the worst...

Take ya experiences, learn what you can from them, work to become a better person. Think I got a lil off topic 
 
i had a 2.something GPA in HS and im doing alright could be better tho :lol:

know dudes who dropped out/did bad in hs and are caking now

know dudes who did well in hs and college and arent caking

HS doesnt matter much
 
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Antidope said:
 
sea manup said:
 
Antidope said:
Why would I be making this up? Especially the college portion, a large number of places have GPA floors for applicants, this isn't some foreign concept.

All I said was my current employer pulled my high school GPA, never said it was a common practice.
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Were you asked any questions about your high school grades?
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No,it was higher than what I told them it was initially, it wasn't an issue. If it was bad then it would have been.
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how do you know it would have been an issue if it was bad?
 
WaitWut said:
i had a 2.something GPA in HS and im doing alright could be better tho
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know dudes who dropped out/did bad in hs and are caking now

know dudes who did well in hs and college and arent caking

HS doesnt matter much
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Was me...

All honors, graduated with like a 2.2 
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Doing better than 90% of the people in my graduating class
 
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sea manup said:
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sea manup said:
 
Antidope said:
Why would I be making this up? Especially the college portion, a large number of places have GPA floors for applicants, this isn't some foreign concept.


All I said was my current employer pulled my high school GPA, never said it was a common practice.
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No,it was higher than what I told them it was initially, it wasn't an issue. If it was bad then it would have been.
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how do you know it would have been an issue if it was bad?
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They made it apparent and they have a set criteria of who they hire which includes a standing history of "Strong academic excellence"

I don't doubt that if it wasnt up to par there would have been a problem..

My undergrad GPA was questioned as well. It is what it is.
 
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Would never work for a company that went back that far...

Work for a very prestigious F500, didn't even ask for my college GPA.
 
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