The Official NBA Finals Thread: Game 7 - Cleveland Cavaliers are your 2016 NBA Champions

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If you swapped them, golden state falls beneath Cleveland in my eyes

I don't see why you can't compare them. They play the same position(s)

The versatility and defense Cleveland would have. Yikes. Green offers the same outside shooting as love
Dray is a ball handling semi Big man almost plays like a guard 

Love is not 
 
If you swapped them, golden state falls beneath Cleveland in my eyes

I don't see why you can't compare them. They play the same position(s)

The versatility and defense Cleveland would have. Yikes. Green offers the same outside shooting as love

You have those two swap teams and I can almost guarantee you Clev becomes a MUCH better team. A lot of defensive mistake JR and Kyrie make will have been covered up by Draymond and Thompson. Would probably be the best frontcourt in the NBA.
 
Hypotheticals to prove a point are the bestest.

You want us to use advanced stats to prove how Love > Green?

The sentiment is that there are certain things Green does for your team which you cannot statistically quantify or have metrics for.
 
Steph is nicer than a mfer but you getting way ahead of yourself. Putting Curry in that class after 3 seasons is laughable to me.


He just had the best offensive season in history but a huge margin, it's laughable that you think anything otherwise.
 
Again, this is putting a SERIOUS premium on offense rather evaluating what a player brings on a macro scale.

Love averaged 16 and 10 this season

Draymond averaged 14 and 9.5

Now remember which one of the 2 were considered to be having a stagnant season until the playoffs and didn't get into a rhythm until they changed coaches in the middle of the season

If you swapped them, golden state falls beneath Cleveland in my eyes

I don't see why you can't compare them. They play the same position(s)

The versatility and defense Cleveland would have. Yikes. Green offers the same outside shooting as love

A 3pt shooter would bring golden state down? :stoneface:

Draymond Green is a better 3 pt shooter than Kevin Love? :stoneface: :stoneface:
 
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You want us to use advanced stats to prove how Love > Green?

The sentiment is that there are certain things Green does for your team which you cannot statistically quantify or have metrics for.
I'm just saying, there really is no point of arguing something you will never be able to prove unless it happens.

I should mention that I agree with your position that Green would make the Cavs a better team because he can do a lot of the things they need him to do.  There is just no way for me to prove that.
 
If you swapped them, golden state falls beneath Cleveland in my eyes

I don't see why you can't compare them. They play the same position(s)

The versatility and defense Cleveland would have. Yikes. Green offers the same outside shooting as love


Dray is way more valuable than Love.

Honestly Love is not a good fit on the Cavs, they would be better served with a defender like Dray.

Love's defensive flaws outweigh his offense, when he's not hitting from the outside its ugly, he gives you nothing but good outlet passes.
 
Wait..there are people that believe Dray isn't better than kevin love?

cue kg are you serious gif
 
Love definitely isn't a great fit for Cleveland. His style of play doesn't mesh well w/ Kyrie and LeBron's. A more dominate post player who can score is a better fit for that team
 
Wait..there are people that believe Dray isn't better than kevin love?

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Dray is way more valuable than Love.

Honestly Love is not a good fit on the Cavs, they would be better served with a defender like Dray.

Love's defensive flaws outweigh his offense, when he's not hitting from the outside its ugly, he gives you nothing but good outlet passes.

AND we're back to this again. Where were those people who were saying exact same comment when Love joined the Cavs? Raise your hands and bask in the eGlory :lol:
 
On a different note, Kyrie Irving is 80 out of 85 in players who qualify in DRM this year
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If you swapped them, golden state falls beneath Cleveland in my eyes

I don't see why you can't compare them. They play the same position(s)

The versatility and defense Cleveland would have. Yikes. Green offers the same outside shooting as love
Same position

Completly different roles though
 
Love averaged 16 and 10 this season

Draymond averaged 14 and 9.5

Now remember which one of the 2 were considered to be having a stagnant season until the playoffs and didn't get into a rhythm until they changed coaches in the middle of the season


A 3pt shooter would bring golden state down? :stoneface:

Draymond Green is a better 3 pt shooter than Kevin Love? :stoneface: :stoneface:
You got that nba 2k mentality where defense is ignored. I got you buddy
 
Infrastructure matters far more than "who simply is better"

Who's better out of Draymond and K Love is a ridiculous question considering they don't play 1v1. It's a team game. (For the record, Kevin love is probably better in this regard and has more individual skills offensively. But Dray is a much better defender so...)

However it's not arguable that Draymond Green on the Golden State Warriors is better than Kevin Love on the Cleveland Cavaliers. He was  a nightly triple double for a 70 win team.
 
I think we are forgetting FIT.

I think Love is a better fit for CLE than Draymond would be.

Due to Kyrie and LeBron already being dominant ball-handlers in Cleveland, it would take away from Draymond's ability to create for himself and others, off of the dribble.

So the, "Swap them" argument might not favor Draymond because I think he would suffer more in a situation where he couldn't really be the 1B Dominant Ball Handler, like he is in GSW.

But they have different skillsets at this point. Depends on which one you prefer
 
Infrastructure matters far more than "who simply is better"

Who's better out of Draymond and K Love is a ridiculous question considering they don't play 1v1. It's a team game. (For the record, Kevin love is probably better in this regard and has more individual skills offensively. But Dray is a much better defender so...)

However it's not arguable that Draymond Green on the Golden State Warriors is better than Kevin Love on the Cleveland Cavaliers. He was  a nightly triple double for a 70 win team.
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How are their roles different? Basically the same except Love is worse in that role. Cleveland would be terrifying with Dray instead of Love. GS gets much worse with Love instead of Dray.
 
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