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2016 Official NBA Off-Season Thread: Former Greatness
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Yup. Team with more points wins not the team with more blocks. It's not rocket science
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I would take PG over Kawhi at this point.
I feel like if they switched teams we would be viewing KL in a totally different light.
Let's see how great KL is, especially on defense when he's tasked with much more responsibility to cover for the inevitable ineptness that a Aldridge / Gasol / Lee frontcourt would provide.
A ton of KL's 3's were assisted last year and he still takes a ton of midrange jumpers.
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Come on man, KL isn't better offensively than Paul George.
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Basically.
You can argue that Kawhi maximizes his role greater than PG does his. But roles aside, If I'm looking at both players purely from a talent standpoint, I'm going to be partial to the guy that can be the primary ballhandler and be a threat to score off the dribble consistently.
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they are the same to me . both have suspect / basic handles and look and move really stiff.
. they remind of the same player just kawhi is a better defender . ill take kawhi but its close.
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I'm just glad PG can walk properly after that terrible incident. I really did not think we'd see him play anything significant again, all for his country
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How are we defining this, though?
Kawhi strikes me as a player with a little more control in his movements. His constant improvement on that end of the floor leads me to believe he's going to be even better next year in terms of expanding his game.
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Well, it's tough. Context matters and their roles are completely different.
But,
If i'm starting a team I'm taking PG over Kawhi 10x out of 10.
PG isn't the greatest playmaker or anything but KL still doesn't do nearly enough in that respect to make me confident in being able to run an offense through him the way Indy and that supporting cast does with Paul George.
Basically, in comparing the two I see KL having not nearly as much of responsibility as someone like Paul George, or even Harden for that matter. I don't see enough of KL playing PnR, or creating for others to justify putting him over PG.
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They aren't the same though.
Their roles for the Pacers and Spurs are COMPLETELY different.
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The points assisted on stats are coming as if it's somehow Kawhi Leonards fault his coach doesn't run iso iso iso all day long.
Kawhi has made drastic improvements as a ball handler.
Kawhi has made drastic improvements as a ball handler.
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i think they have the same type skillset offensively even if they roles are completely different.
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Or it could be because he's never been that type of player since San Diego St.
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But they don't.
You are not going to find many instances of Kawhi breaking his man down off the dribble and pulling up, or getting to the cup.
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Bron or KD are on a different level. But when you're talking about guys like Melo, Harden, Parsons, PG13 - elite defense + very good offense makes a huge difference.
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I think dudes overrate Paul George's creating skills a bit. 4.1ast to 3.3topg is not good. He looks smoother than Kawhi as a creator, but he's not that much better or effective.
Also, he can fall in love and settle with the 3 ball at times. That's due to his inability to get to his spots in the midrange, or the cup.
I also think Kawhi is a clearly better individual defender.
Also, he can fall in love and settle with the 3 ball at times. That's due to his inability to get to his spots in the midrange, or the cup.
I also think Kawhi is a clearly better individual defender.
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i don't see any real similarities between PG and KL. Offensively, very different.
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Exactly.
Looked it up to be sure because I hadn't checked this in awhile.
PG's usage rate is at over 30% and is responsible for 26% of Indy's total assist.
The Percent of PG's unassisted 3's are much higher than KL's too, which matters because one of KL's biggest selling points is his supreme 3 point shooting.
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You're right in saying that PG's creating skills are nothing to right home about, but he's still much better than KL at it.
Also, KL's defense would slip big time if he was playing in Indy, no?
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Kawhi Leonard has made substantial improvement in that space and Paul George is kind of over rated in that regard also. He's not getting whatever he wants all the time and leans on a bunch of bad long twos a lot and the three top and he's not an elite three point shooter by any means.
Is he better at it than Kawhi? Sure he is. Is he leaps and bounds above Kawhi? I don't think so.
It goes without saying that Kawhi is the much better defender.
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We saw this in the playoffs. It was getting ugly for the shy guy. Those per 36 weren't holding water when he actually had to play 36 minutes
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Giannis coming for both kiwi and PG anyways
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I'll allow it
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he had a bad series. It happens. One bad series doesn't define his career or make him overrated.
