Leaving America? VOL. House Hunters International Got Me Ready To Bounce.

Canadians are nice. Probably easy to make friends plus they got tim horton's and poutine.

I heard Montreal is lit. I hope someone I know will have a bachelor's party up there.
 
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It's difficult. I like my current work lifestyle/salary and the diversity of cultures here in California, but I also HATE the violence and ignorance in this country. If I could keep my current job, I'd move to Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, or Singapore ASAP. Unfortunately, I know from my relatives and friends in Asia that they work you like slaves in those countries in my industry (accounting/finance), so I'd have to pass :smh: :lol:

I guess Canada would be a good compromise. It's just that I literally know no one up there, unlike countries in Asia and Europe where I have relatives and friends.
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As far as starting a new life in another country I'd assume Canada or Australia/NZ would be the least difficult transition as an American. No language barrier to worry about, aside from the French part of Canada
Canadians are also renowned for their hospitality
 
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I don't really care about language barriers. I'm multilingual and love learning new languages as well. I'm just paranoid of ending up lonely in a new country because it's almost impossible for me to make friends :smh: I think I've made 1 real friend since I graduated in 2011 :lol:
 
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Lived in Spain for about a year, recently moved back. Invaluable experience.

If you can find a way to work for an American company remotely that's the way to go. Bay Area market wages paired with your typical American cost of living cut in half is unbeatable.

Planning on going back to live in Spain for 3-5 years by 2018. Gonna do a 4 week Spanish language immersion progtam in Oaxaca, Mexico and probably something else similar in South or Central America right before heading back to Europe.

I think I'll raise my future kids in California, two many benefits and would he doing them a disservice not too, but planning on spending a lot of time residing out the country before thats even a thought.
 
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Lived in Spain for about a year, recently moved back. Invaluable experience.

Planning on going back to live in Spain for 3-5 years by 2018. Gonna do a 4 week Spanish language immersion progtam in Oaxaca, Mexico and probably something else similar in South or Central America right before heading back to Europe.

I think I'll raise my future kids in California, two many benefits and would he doing them a disservice not too, but planning on spending a lot of time residing out the country before thats even a thought.
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Spain is another country I'd love to live in only if I had a guaranteed, decently paying job ahead of time. I visit my cousins near Barcelona every once in a while, and they're all unemployed or broke even while having the same career as me. I don't need 6 figures, but damn, even if you get a job there you're making A LOT less than what you would here. Employment situation for younger people there is horrible
 
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NorthOaklandFC said:
Lived in Spain for about a year, recently moved back. Invaluable experience.


Planning on going back to live in Spain for 3-5 years by 2018. Gonna do a 4 week Spanish language immersion progtam in Oaxaca, Mexico and probably something else similar in South or Central America right before heading back to Europe.


I think I'll raise my future kids in California, two many benefits and would he doing them a disservice not too, but planning on spending a lot of time residing out the country before thats even a thought.
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Lived in Barcelona for 9 and also spent some time in in Southern region of the country.
 
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Spain is another country I'd love to live in only if I had a guaranteed, decently paying job ahead of time. I visit my cousins near Barcelona every once in a while, and they're all unemployed or broke even while having the same career as me. I don't need 6 figures, but damn, even if you get a job there you're making A LOT less than what you would here. Employment situation for younger people there is horrible
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Yup easy to take this Bay Area economy for granted.

Luckily working remotely is becoming all the more common.

That or working for an American company but being based out of their Spanish office would be the way to go.
 
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If you can find a way to work for an American company remotely that's the way to go. Bay Area market wages paired with your typical American cost of living cut in half is unbeatable.
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that's what put the idea in my head in the first place .... seeing how far my US salary could go in other countries 

I could actually live like I have a decent job....  

cost of living in Miami/Fort Lauderdale got me feeling like I work at a fast food chain 
 
I could technically do my entire job remotely. For example we have multiple employees that live and work full time from the Philippines. My boss wants me here though because I'm one of 2 native English speakers on our Bay Area accounting team (90% Chinese immigrants) and and am needed for face to face communication with clients :smh: :lol:
 
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Colombia always comes to mind. They say it's one of the happiest places on Earth.
 
I could do my job remotely as well, but I haven't had a real legit reason to lobby for it .... 

there's no reason for me to be in the office when half the team isn't here in the first place 

we have designers in one state .... developers spread across multiple states ....a VP in Australia.. etc etc 
 
Developers can definitely live that lifestyle. My friend is one, and he's been living in Asia for the past 2 years, just hopping from country to country whenever his visas expire. So damn jealous of him :lol:
 
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Europe might not be the best place to go if you're looking to avoid racism :lol:
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At least you don't have to worry about being shot by some ******* carrying a gun legally
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Racism in Western Europe, sans Italy doesn't even compare to racism in the United States. :lol:

If I were to make a sweeping generalization of the difference, Western European racism Italy included = a lack of respect, American racism = unadulterated hate and violence topped off by systematic and institutional racism deeply ingrained within the fabric of the country.

Western European nations playing racism at the JV level. America is the blue chip varsity prospect about to get that major D1 offer.

Like someone else said it's very different, I could talk a lot about it. Racism certainly exist but it's nothing like here in present day America or historically.

I've heard awful things about Russia and some parts of far Eastern Europe but even Central Europe like Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, I was out there a good amount with no problems. Nothing but respect and good vibes. Fascination for sure, but overall it was nothing but love.
 
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At least you don't have to worry about being shot by some ******* carrying a gun legally
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The gun violence and culture in the US is by far the thing I hate most. In most modern countries the worst that will happen is that you get into a fight and maybe take an L. Over here, you can't disagree with anyone or stand up for yourself without getting shot and killed for it, by criminals AND police :smh:
 
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Racism in Western Europe, sans Italy doesn't even compare to racism in the United States.
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If I were to make a sweeping generalization of the difference, Western European racism Italy included = a lack of respect, American racism = unadulterated hate and violence topped off by systematic and institutional racism deeply ingrained within the fabric of the country.

Western European nations playing racism at the JV level. America is the blue chip varsity prospect about to get that major D1 offer.

Like someone else said it's very different, I could talk a lot about it. Racism certainly exist but it's nothing like here in present day America or historically.

I've heard awful things about Russia and some parts of far Eastern Europe but even Central Europe like Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, I was out there a good amount with no problems. Nothing but respect and good vibes. Fascination for sure, but overall it was nothing but love.
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Plus if voice your opinion about people having less access to guns the gunlovers get heated like crazy. They act like having a gun is a necessity, like it's oxygen / food / water. You got idiots with permits walking around the streets in some states flashing their guns or going to restaurants with assault rifles on their backs just to scare the crap out of everyone.
 
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Acebrigade said:
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The gun violence and culture in the US is by far the thing I hate most. In most modern countries the worst that will happen is that you get into a fight and maybe take an L. Over here, you can't disagree with anyone or stand up for yourself without getting shot and killed for it, by criminals AND police
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I didn't see a single fight in Europe while basically partying four nights a week, club scene, bars, etc. in the party capital of Europe.

Got back to the states and saw like three fights in 48 hours the first two nights I went out, in San Francisco and San Diego, relatively chill places on the violence front by American standards. 
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Eastern Europe is on a whole different level. I would never step foot into Russia. Spaniards and Italians can be equal opportunity racists. The racists there hate all the different groups within their own countries as well (for example, Catalans and Basques vs Castillians in Spain, Northern vs Southern Italians, etc.). Even then it's nowhere like here where racists will find excuses to kill you for the color of your skin.
 
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