DNC Treatment Of Sanders At Issue In Emails Leaked To Wikileaks

FilthyJiujitsu said:
RustyShackleford said:
It is like you can't help yourself
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Let's be gentlemen.
I say I'm sorry and still no good. There was no cryptic meaning behind that post. Honestly, what do you want? You seems so bent out of shape when I post. There's a simple solution to you not being so bothered by what I post.....
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Yep, you can't help yourself. :lol:

Nothing you post bothers me brah, why should it, the reverse doesn't seem to be true. You seem to have a tough time with people disagreeing with you.

And I really didn't even disagree with you, just have a different perspective.
 
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RustyShackleford said:
Yep, you can't help yourself. :lol:

Nothing you post bothers me brah, the reverse doesn't seem to be true. You seem to have a tough time with people disagreeing with you.
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Not really. I enjoy reading different points of view and discussing them in depth. I have a hard time with people who seem to be terrycloth when they should be used to NT by now. Calling me defensive when we are conversing on opposite ideals is kind of childish. Why wouldn't I be defensive in my thoughts and ideals? What would be the point in conversing at all if one wasn't defensive on what they believe in? Or is that condescending as well? Is it condescending to ask that? :lol:
 
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FilthyJiujitsu said:
RustyShackleford said:
Yep, you can't help yourself. :lol:

Nothing you post bothers me brah, the reverse doesn't seem to be true. You seem to have a tough time with people disagreeing with you.
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Not really. I have a hard time with people who seem to be terrycloth when they should be used to NT by now. Calling me defensive when we are conversing on opposite ideals is kind of childish. Why wouldn't I be defensive in my thoughts and ideals? What would be the point in conversing at all if one wasn't defensive on what they believe in? Or is that condescending as well? Is it condescending to ask that? :lol:
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:smh: :lol:

Famb look at this, and read what I type. You were tripping over the diet strawmen. Talking about stuff I didn't even say or imply, then shading me on those points.

Yet I'm childish?

FilthyJiujitsu said:
Excuse me for being all over the place. I'm talking about the entire system, politcial process.
Voting online would change alot. To deny that is narrow-minded. Simply voting at a polling place does not make you informed. I think it's the opposite at this point. The sheep come in masses to vote based on who their union/party, etc tells them to vote for. Without doing any research of their own. Bernie had to switch just to have a chance. It's a shame really. No worthy candidate wants to run. If you think these noms are worthy. I dunno what else to tell you. I appreciate you trying to teach me tho. Thanks!
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-And I would love to know which group of people where the "sheep" in the Democratic primary, that didn't think for themselves.

-And "terrycloth" me :lol:. I made one joke about your hunting one time and you got so rustled. Talking about "why do you have a problem with me" over and over

Relax famb. You doing too much
 
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Dont even remember what hunting joke you made?

It is narrow-minded to think voting online wouldn't make a difference. I do appreciate you trying to enlighten me on the political process. These noms are not worthy of being the president of America. What was so condescending that you felt the need to say I'm condescending, rather than show me how I'm wrong? That's terrycloth in my eyes. I'm relaxed, simply explaining everything you feel the need to nitpick.
 
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FilthyJiujitsu said:
Dont even remember what hunting joke you made?

It is narrow-minded to think voting online wouldn't make a difference. I do appreciate you trying to enlighten me on the politival process. These noms are not worthy of being the president of America. What was so condescending that you felt the need to say I'm condescending, rather than show me how I'm wrong. That's terrycloth in my eyes. I'm relaxed, simply explaining everything you feel the need to nitpick.
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Nitpicking?

Quote me saying online voting wouldn't make a difference. I'll wait

Furthermore I even mentioned other areas where things need to be changed

You're building strawmen, because you didn't respond to anything I said really, and that's why I called you defensive and condescending.

You just projected some opinions on me, and shaded me for having them.

Like I said, you're doing to much. Relax

If you're so relaxed go reread our post, and maybe you can notice your strawman arguments. Or if i'm wrong, quote me.
 
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online voting would be an absolute disaster. itd be subject to hacking, identity theft, fraudulent votes, system "outages" and "glitches", viruses... oh hell nah.
 
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RustyShackleford said:
Nitpicking?

Quote me saying online voting wouldn't make a difference. I'll wait

Furthermore I even mentioned other areas where things need to be changed

You're building strawmen, because you didn't respond to anything I said really, and that's why I called you defensive and condescending.

You just projected some opinions on me, and shaded me for having them.

Like I said, you're doing to much. Relax

If you're so relaxed go reread our post, and maybe you can notice your strawman arguments. Or if i'm wrong, quote me.
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Nope. I still stand by what I said and was on topic till you derailed..


Course not. The entire system needs a reform. Look no further then our choices for proof.
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Noms are a joke. Voting is a joke. Standing by my original argument. No deflection. You swayed the convo way off by getting in your feelings.

Anyway, Saying that voters need to be informed yadda yadda, negates my opinion on voting online. Your poo pooing it. Obviously voters need to be informed... (no condescending)
Voting online would make a huge difference.
A giant portion of millenials did not vote and will continue to not.They understand pipe dreams are just that. Now look at the noms. It's a self fulfilling prophecy and around we go.





online voting would be an absolute disaster. itd be subject to hacking, identity theft, fraudulent votes, system "outages" and "glitches", viruses... oh hell nah.
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Voting machines, methods can be hacked as well. Its currently less secure because of all the facilities votes go through.
Do you have a bank account? Then you trust the internet for money but not votes?
 
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Of course, like I figured.

When I asked you to focus in, you realized what I'm saying and your strawman aren't the same.

-And the banking system gets hacked all the time. Protecting people from banking and credit fraud is a major thing in the US.

I mean, that the reason for those chips on cards now.

I'm all for making voting much easier, but security of a server is a legit concern to have. That's not even my major concern with it either way
 
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RustyShackleford said:
Go look at the states each of them own. Hillary won, and Bernie didn't even try in the South, and Hillary won the diverse states.

Even when Bernie had a chance to get his message out there, it really didn't stick.

Most importantly Bernie had to get a nice chunk of the black vote, which he failed to do. The DNC didn't cause that to happen
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No campaign is without its shortcomings, but that in conjunction with the suppression from the media and DNC sealed that mans fate. It's only speculation at this point but I don't see him getting washed like he did if Clinton wasn't propped up to win like she was.
 
Tigron said:
RustyShackleford said:
Go look at the states each of them own. Hillary won, and Bernie didn't even try in the South, and Hillary won the diverse states.

Even when Bernie had a chance to get his message out there, it really didn't stick.

Most importantly Bernie had to get a nice chunk of the black vote, which he failed to do. The DNC didn't cause that to happen
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No campaign is without its shortcomings, but that in conjunction with the suppression from the media and DNC sealed that mans fate. It's only speculation at this point but I don't see him getting washed like he did if Clinton wasn't propped up to win like she was.
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Bernie wasn't winning the black vote, he couldn't even split it, that alone sealed his fate. He conceded the South to her, and gave her a leg up in diverse states.
 
RustyShackleford said:
Tigron said:
RustyShackleford said:
Go look at the states each of them own. Hillary won, and Bernie didn't even try in the South, and Hillary won the diverse states.

Even when Bernie had a chance to get his message out there, it really didn't stick.

Most importantly Bernie had to get a nice chunk of the black vote, which he failed to do. The DNC didn't cause that to happen
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No campaign is without its shortcomings, but that in conjunction with the suppression from the media and DNC sealed that mans fate. It's only speculation at this point but I don't see him getting washed like he did if Clinton wasn't propped up to win like she was.
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Bernie wasn't winning the black vote, he couldn't even split it, that alone sealed his fate. He conceded the South to her, and gave her a leg up in diverse states.
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Exactly. The only black people that were in Bernie's corner where ninjahood ninjahood and Killer Mike and neither of those ****** are in good standing in the black community. It was a wrap for Bernie after the South Carolina primary.
 
Deuce King said:
RustyShackleford said:
Tigron said:
RustyShackleford said:
Go look at the states each of them own. Hillary won, and Bernie didn't even try in the South, and Hillary won the diverse states.

Even when Bernie had a chance to get his message out there, it really didn't stick.

Most importantly Bernie had to get a nice chunk of the black vote, which he failed to do. The DNC didn't cause that to happen
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No campaign is without its shortcomings, but that in conjunction with the suppression from the media and DNC sealed that mans fate. It's only speculation at this point but I don't see him getting washed like he did if Clinton wasn't propped up to win like she was.
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Bernie wasn't winning the black vote, he couldn't even split it, that alone sealed his fate. He conceded the South to her, and gave her a leg up in diverse states.
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Exactly. The only black people that were in Bernie's corner where ninjahood ninjahood and Killer Mike and neither of those ****** are in good standing in the black community. It was a wrap for Bernie after the South Carolina primary.
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Famb, don't start.

I'm not saying Bernie didn't have black support, I voted for the man :lol:, but he definitely did'n't have nearly enough. And please don't slander Berngawd's name with bringing up Da Heightz Delegation
 
FilthyJiujitsu said:
Voting machines, methods can be hacked as well. Its currently less secure because of all the facilities votes go through.
Do you have a bank account? Then you trust the internet for money but not votes?
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you think its easier to hack a monitored voting machine... than a website? all of the facilities votes go through makes it more secure instead of having everything cached at one spot. o_O what type of logic was that? you want something to be secure? make sure it cant be stolen by compromising one spot. thats common sense.

a database, where all of the nations votes are being kept? please. and why hack a bank when you can hack an email that will give you access to the money? theyre not the same thing. and my money is not housed on the internet... unlike the votes. they would definitely be stored on the internet. compromise the website theyre store on...and poof.
 
Deuce King said:
RustyShackleford said:
Tigron said:
RustyShackleford said:
Go look at the states each of them own. Hillary won, and Bernie didn't even try in the South, and Hillary won the diverse states.

Even when Bernie had a chance to get his message out there, it really didn't stick.

Most importantly Bernie had to get a nice chunk of the black vote, which he failed to do. The DNC didn't cause that to happen
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No campaign is without its shortcomings, but that in conjunction with the suppression from the media and DNC sealed that mans fate. It's only speculation at this point but I don't see him getting washed like he did if Clinton wasn't propped up to win like she was.
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Bernie wasn't winning the black vote, he couldn't even split it, that alone sealed his fate. He conceded the South to her, and gave her a leg up in diverse states.
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Exactly. The only black people that were in Bernie's corner where ninjahood ninjahood and Killer Mike and neither of those ****** are in good standing in the black community. It was a wrap for Bernie after the South Carolina primary.
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all i said is Bernie wasn't gonna make it a coronation b >D

jeez how'd this thread turned into a dumpster fire? :lol:

should we expect a Ted Cruz-esque performance from da Bern man next week? :nerd:
 
TEKtheMAESTRO said:
you think its easier to hack a monitored voting machine... than a website? all of the facilities votes go through makes it more secure instead of having everything cached at one spot. o_O what type of logic was that? you want something to be secure? make sure it cant be stolen by compromising one spot. thats common sense.

a database, where all of the nations votes are being kept? please. and why hack a bank when you can hack an email that will give you access to the money? theyre not the same thing. and my money is not housed on the internet... unlike the votes. they would definitely be stored on the internet. compromise the website theyre store on...and poof.
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My logic isn't needed(hooray). It's been done. Diebold machines were hacked.


The Hursti Hack was a successful attempt to alter the votes recorded on a Diebold optical scan voting machine. The hack is named after Harri Hursti.
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FilthyJiujitsu said:
My logic isn't needed(hooray). It's been done. Diebold machines were hacked.
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you wont believe this.... but websites have been hacked before too. and this may also come as a surprise, but you did not understand my post in the slightest. allow me to explain:

"you think its easier to hack a monitored voting machine... than a website? all of the facilities votes go through makes it more secure instead of having everything cached at one spot. o_O what type of logic was that? you want something to be secure? make sure it cant be stolen by compromising one spot. thats common sense."

it is far easier to hack a website, than to physically hack a machine that is being monitored. and... having all of the different locations taking in physical votes is more secure because even if a machine is hacked... thats 1 machine out of how many? 1 building out of how many? 1 screwed up count out of how many? now, imagine there is a single website where everyone casts their vote. lets say an anonymous member or 4channer or anyone with some real hacking skills decides "trump aint winnin. nope." and hacks that website. he now has access to every vote that has been cast on that website. every. vote. every....

vote. every vote. cast on that website. get it?
 
TEKtheMAESTRO said:
you wont believe this.... but websites have been hacked before too. and this may also come as a surprise, but you did not understand my post in the slightest. allow me to explain:

"you think its easier to hack a monitored voting machine... than a website? all of the facilities votes go through makes it more secure instead of having everything cached at one spot. o_O what type of logic was that? you want something to be secure? make sure it cant be stolen by compromising one spot. thats common sense."

it is far easier to hack a website, than to physically hack a machine that is being monitored. and... having all of the different locations taking in physical votes is more secure because even if a machine is hacked... thats 1 machine out of how many? 1 building out of how many? 1 screwed up count out of how many? now, imagine there is a single website where everyone casts their vote. lets say an anonymous member or 4channer or anyone with some real hacking skills decides "trump aint winnin. nope." and hacks that website. he now has access to every vote that has been cast on that website. every. vote. every....







vote. every vote. cast on that website. get it?
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That's great and all but I just gave you proof that machines can be hacked. Nothing is foolproof. I'm not arguing that a website can't be hacked. It's a constant cat and mouse game. Carry on though.


RustyShackleford said:
:smh: :lol:

Nice to know it is not only me he does it too
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Take some time for self reflection. Highly recomend it. Release the stress. "The unexamined life is not worth living".
I send you nothing but love.
 
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:rofl: Famb so desperate to seem like level headed, control, and mostly important right.

But it not working on all fronts
 
RustyShackleford said:
:rofl: Famb so desperate to seem like level headed, control, and mostly important right.

But it not working on all fronts
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Mmmm. Let it flow through you.
You'd be surprised as hell to know how calm I am if you met me to be honest. I fight and hunt as hobbies. Messageboard arguments aren't gonna phase me. Maybe, thats why I come off as a hardass? I sincerely apologize for that... Really don't care if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I'm not Gandhi. I own up to when I'm wrong. Post history is there. For sure, lets stop making this about me though.
 
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gave me proof that machines CAN be hacked... when the point was that its easier to hack a website than a machine.

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iight you got it.
 
TEKtheMAESTRO said:
gave me proof that machines CAN be hacked... when the point was that its easier to hack a website than a machine.

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iight you got it.
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Nah. Don't concede on my account.

From what I see. Voting machines aren't that secure. We are talking about an imaginary website where the Gov disregards the security. When we have actual proof that the voting machines can be manipulated by a third party.
 
So you guys really think in this century there is no alternative to having to take off work early to go to a polling place near your house to cast a vote (or going before work)? When i see memes like "set up pokestops near polling places to get young people to go there" or "young people stand in lines for jordans but not to vote"
 
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