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 My nephew and his friends are in 6th grade and they only want Currys. Obviously that's a very small, unscientific study of that demo, but it appears Nike doesn't have the stronghold on that age group now like they did when I was that age.

 

D Lillard is another guy who I think is a perfect signature athlete right now. Harden sort of as well, but his game isn't visually what you'd hope for and his personality has issues too.
 

I'm all about Porzingis, but the fact remains, big guys don't sell shoes. Especially big white guys who shoot really well but don't exactly rack up the highlight reel clips. If Dirk and Tim Duncan weren't signature worthy, it's hard to see the Zinger getting there, although I'm very excited for his career.

 

Nike messed up real bad when they lost Steph, and the superiority of Boost cushioning is another thing that should keep their execs up at night. But they still have 2 of the top 3 signature guys (KD and Lebron) and I still feel their design aesthetic is better than Adidas and UA in most cases. They just have to rectify the screw ups that were the KD 8 and Lebron 13. I think they're off to a good start with the KD 9.

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I think KP could wor with a shoe. He has sort of a signature put back dunk and is a very good interview. Very likeable. Active on social media as well. Would have to be Nike though for marketing exposure.
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Put back dunks, alley oops and whatever does not get it done though. If it did you would've seen a lot of big guys do great with signatures, but that hasn't been the case. There is a reason Anthony Davis does not have a sig, and why KG's shoe never did much and Shaq's shoe career is pretty forgettable. The top signature guys have all been guards or small forwards that slash to the basket, shoot from deep, and handle the ball all the time.

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I agree. That's why I said it's crazy if you think Adidas and UA won't start playing catch up. My nephew and his friends are in 6th grade and they only want Currys. Obviously that's a very small, unscientific study of that demo, but it appears Nike doesn't have the stronghold on that age group now like they did when I was that age.

I'd like to see someone like Porzingis get a sig because I feel like he could crossover sell crazy in Europe as well as get some sales here, plus it'd be different, but I doubt it happens. Maybe if he goes off next year but would be cool.

Europeans aren't into basketball sneakers like N.Americans are, a Porzingis signature would actually sell more units in NY than all of Europe let alone Latvia.

Curry's overall durability and health will determine how successful his sneaker line up will be. Right now he's only on his third signature, once you get to this 6th or 7th signature then you can say that UA struck gold with him.
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Shaq had quite a few signature shoes on Reebok before doing his own discounted shoe. I know guards are more relatable to the general public but there is a place for big men in the market.
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I know it's a long shot, but I'd like to see Isaiah Thomas be the next sig.  Nike has to still be upset about the emergence of Curry, so it would make sense to try and capitalize on the popularity of the "short three-shooter" build.  Plus, he's on the perfect team.  Again, I know he's not the best player in the league, but would just be interesting to see.

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Ya but what tech what they market for another small guy? They have quickness and traction with kyrie, and flyknit lowtops with kobe. A new cushion or nike free in more shoes? Nike needs a new foam. Lunarlon is my fav but bottoms out too fast. Something low profile and responsive. Would be perfect for IT too.
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I know it's a long shot, but I'd like to see Isaiah Thomas be the next sig.  Nike has to still be upset about the emergence of Curry, so it would make sense to try and capitalize on the popularity of the "short three-shooter" build.  Plus, he's on the perfect team.  Again, I know he's not the best player in the league, but would just be interesting to see.
Interesting, but what makes the Celtics the perfect team? They've got no shot at the east till LeBron switches teams or massively declines. So probably 3+ years
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I've lost all hope for this thread 😂
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I've lost all hope for this thread 😂

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this thread literally has nothing to do with the 14's , true ?
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I'm saying trolls have taken over. I agree with you
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I just can't wait to see what they put together for the 14' I wanna see the max zoom setup back
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Dude you guys chill out...nothing wrong with small talk until mire info is available. Do u guus have anytbing new to add that hasnt been covered already? If not then what you guys just wanna keep rambling the same stuff that has been discussed for the last 14 pages? Lol


When new info arrives then the thread will continue to discuss the 14's.....
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I can't take the anticipation 😂😂
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Dude you guys chill out...nothing wrong with small talk until mire info is available. Do u guus have anytbing new to add that hasnt been covered already? If not then what you guys just wanna keep rambling the same stuff that has been discussed for the last 14 pages? Lol


When new info arrives then the thread will continue to discuss the 14's.....

Better off letting the thread rest.
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Interesting, but what makes the Celtics the perfect team? They've got no shot at the east till LeBron switches teams or massively declines. So probably 3+ years

I didn't mean perfect as in the best position to win; it's just that they and the Lakers are the most legendary franchises in NBA history.  If Isaiah continues to get better, it will be as the leader of one side of the biggest rivalry in basketball.  The Celtics and Lakers are starting to rebuild at the same time (Celtics starting to get good again after the Big 3 left, Lakers have a promising young core after the departure of Kobe), so I would love to see that particular rivalry catch fire again in a year or two.  If Isaiah is still part of the team by then, then he's going to get a ton of media attention.

 

 

 

 

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Ya but what tech what they market for another small guy? They have quickness and traction with kyrie, and flyknit lowtops with kobe. A new cushion or nike free in more shoes? Nike needs a new foam. Lunarlon is my fav but bottoms out too fast. Something low profile and responsive. Would be perfect for IT too.

Yeah, like you said, a new cushioning would be nice.  Kind of bridge the gap between Kobe and Kyrie, low enough to have courtfeel, but a little more cushion because Isaiah isn't quite as explosive as Kyrie.  I'm not sure what the material on the Kobe 12 is going to be, though.  It would be kind of odd to have their best tech on a sig for a player who isn't playing anymore.  That's why I thought they gave the KD 9 flyknit, kinda passing the flyknit torch on to the next best guy.

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So what models are those that I posted?
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So what models are those that I posted?

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So what models are those that I posted?

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Honestly as "ugly" as they are, I been looking for a sturdy bball shoe for strictly playing in. I'm a bigger guy, Kobe's lowtops are decent, but I assume lebrons would be more ideal. My hate for lebron has kept me from buying any of his kicks laugh.gif but those samples look very...'function over form' to me, I'd be interested in a pair.

Hows the performance on the 13's?
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I'm saying trolls have taken over. I agree with you

There's no trolling going on here, just some Nike basketball sneaker discussion.
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Hard to say. There is definitely nobody in the pipeline that is remotely close to Lebron caliber, and the most interesting guys are signed with other brands. Ben Simmons has great potential as a signature athlete based on his handles and passing ability, but he needs to learn to shoot and become a bona fide superstar first.
once kd starts getting rings you don't think that will boost his stock and make him their top sig athlete once Bron retires?
And I could definitely see DLo or Ben being the next sig athlete
hell maybe even KAT
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KD is definitely already part of the elite. I'd put him at 3 after Lebron and Steph. It will be interesting to watch how things play out in Golden State this year with him and Curry on the same team. I feel KD is the better individual player. It's hard to say what happens after Bron retires because that's still several years away. It's possible KD will no longer be a superstar at that point either.

 

The one guy who screams signature athlete but won't get a shoe unless something changes is Westbrook. It's too bad he's locked into Jordan Brand.

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Those samples I posted are some form of the 14.
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Those samples I posted are some form of the 14.
I don't think so, those pics been around awhile I heard they were a hyper dunk promo
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Nike typically starts production about 3 months prior to RD and we're about 2 months away from ball season. They either have the factory in China under serious lockdown or they are releasing some basic joint that needs only about a month, month and a half of production time. sick.gif
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Pre session in October ...
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So lighthearted banter is discouraged by members here, sans topic?! Befuddling. That said, there seems to be only three players that are generating enough juice to be considered a major player in the sig world. We know that LeBron is one of them, regardless of the shoddy design team that Nike surrounds him with. This really speaks to his power, because if Nike had a better shoe designer for LeBron, especially with his willingness to take public political positions pro global citizentry, Steph Curry would have his niche, but he'd be no threat in regard to superiority. This is comparing Steph and LeBron, not Nike versus UA. I also find it interesting that Durant is going to be right next to Curry during the season. Curry has his usual year, U A does great. Durant becomes subpar his usual stats, Nike is going to take an even bigger hit with Durant's sig line. It has been a long time since wearing Nike has not been considered cool. Outside of LeBron, there isn't one player on Nike's entire roster that is considered current, a clear representation on what is going on in the world today. Nike seems to be out of touch.
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