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Who is going to win the Pac 12 this season?

  • USC

    Votes: 13 38.2%
  • Stanford

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Washington

    Votes: 9 26.5%
  • Oregon

    Votes: 4 11.8%
  • UCLA

    Votes: 2 5.9%
  • Wazzu

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Utah

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Colorado

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Oregon St

    Votes: 2 5.9%
  • Cal

    Votes: 2 5.9%
  • Arizona St

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Arizona

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Total voters
    34
  • Poll closed .
Other than the dislike of Dabo's comments pertaining to Kaepernick...why so much hate towards him?

Two main things for me are:

He has church gatherings for his football team every Sunday (while coaching at a public university, and getting paid with public money). He claims that there is no prejudice towards players who don't attend, but based on how every college football coach is a control freak, and by his comments on other subjects, I find it hard to believe.

I don't like how he berates his players publically. Coaches are always asking their players to be mentally tough, and also to play "in control".... yet he goes off the rails on minor things his players do.

This subject is another reason I hate Brian Kelly, and one of the reasons I like Jim harbaugh. If you watch UM games, the only time harbaugh goes crazy is usually at refs. He will not yell or go bezerk on his players. Remember that these players are the ones bringing in all the money, but the coaches and other higher ups are the ones making all the profit. They are university employees.... and the whole point of university is to grow and learn. When I see these bum coaches being ********, I believe they are not what should represent a university.
 
Harbaugh will never put his players under the bus the way Mike Ditka did to him. It's a huge reason players love playing for him.
A lot of former Stanford and SF players HATE Harbaugh. Hell Speight almost transferred out of UM initially because of him. Might be because those dudes are over sensitive but still.
 
winning margins in the history of the playoff:

5, 7, 17, 20, 22, 31, 38, 39

3rd best loss
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what is a lot?
Doug Baldwin, Richard Sherman, and multiple of his last year SF players have gone on the record to say they don't care for him. People thought the retirements in SF were players being old/protesting Harbaugh's firing, but it's been said some of the departures were because he made the players hate the sport.

http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2014/01/18/doug-baldwin-richard-sherman-jim-harbaugh-pete-carroll
Harbaugh's personal style rubbed both players the wrong way -- both Sherman and Baldwin felt like odd fits, and Baldwin actually thought about quitting the game altogether in his junior year before his mom told him to stick it out.

“I’ll start with Coach Harbaugh," Baldwin said this week, when asked how different his college and pro coaches are. "Coach Harbaugh was a very... I’d say he’s more of a disciplinarian type of coach. He likes to be in control of things, and likes to be hands-on with everything. He likes to make sure that everything is running smoothly and he has his say on stuff, and Pete is the same way. I just think they have different approaches. Like I said, Harbaugh is more of a military type. Everything has to be precise and has to be exactly the way he wanted in order for it to go as well as he wants it to go, and Pete kind of gives us leeway to do things that we want to. It might rub the outside people the wrong way sometimes, but I think for us, it gives us a better sense of just having fun when we’re at practice or in meetings and stuff.”
https://www.landof10.com/michigan/m...ight-on-earlier-transfer-plans-it-was-serious

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/6/...is-49ers-retires-san-francisco-patrick-willis
 
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The part that doesn't make sense to me though, is why would people retire after he is fired? If they hated the sport, wouldn't you be excited now that he is gone?
 
Boy Michigan fans cape for EVERYTHING.


I just asked what a lot is. According to nako it means far fewer than most. In that context, I agree that a lot of players hated playing for jim harbaugh. No caping.


But I defy you to read the Anthony Davis and Wilton Speight articles and tell me how they are in any way relevant.

Anothony Davis article: CTRL+F Jim Harbaugh = 0 results. He retired for health reasons, came back, and retired again for health reason. okay...and?

Wilton Speight article: 5th string qb considers transfer. okay...and?
 
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Boy Michigan fans cape for EVERYTHING.

I just asked what a lot is. According to nako it means far fewer than most. In that context, I agree that a lot of players hated playing for jim harbaugh. No caping.


But I defy you to read the Anthony Davis and Wilton Speight articles and tell me how they are in any way relevant.

Anothony Davis article: CTRL+F Jim Harbaugh = 0 results. He retired for health reasons, came back, and retired again for health reason. okay...and?

Wilton Speight article: 5th string qb considers transfer. okay...and?
I cited the Anthony Davis article to highlight how 5 dudes quit the sport following his last season. It also I believe had links to on each players retirement.

Another player:

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/article18933750.html
Guard Alex Boone, who was former coach Jim Harbaugh’s most outspoken defender last year when reports about 49ers locker room schisms surfaced, now says Harbaugh “wore out his welcome” in San Francisco.

“He does a great job of giving you that spark, that initial boom,” Boone said on an episode of HBO’s “Real Sports,” which airs Tuesday at 10 p.m. and which Pro Football Talk previewed. “But after a while, you just want to kick his a--. ... He just keeps pushing you, and you’re like, ‘Dude, we got over the mountain. Stop. Let go.’ He kind of wore out his welcome.”

“What does that mean?” Boone was asked.

“I think he just pushed guys too far,” he said. “He wanted too much, demanded too much, expected too much. You know, ‘We gotta go out and do this. We gotta go out and do this. We gotta go out and do this.’ And you’d be like, ‘This guy might be clinically insane. He’s crazy.’ ... I think that if you’re stuck in your ways enough, eventually people are just going to say, ‘Listen, we just can’t work with this.’”

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/article18933750.html#storylink=cpy
 
So we started at a lot and now we're up to a measly 3.

Quit drinking and go to bed.
 
So we started at a lot and now we're up to a measly 3.

Quit drinking and go to bed.
Doug Baldwin, Richard Sherman, Wilton Speight, Alex Boone all went on the record to say they disliked him. That's 4.

And 5 guys who literally quit the sport.

That's more than 3 if you're counting. I'm the one who's drunk though.
 
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