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Black Lives Matter: Why the dual agenda?
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This pretty much sums it up. I don't get why it's so hard to understand.
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What don't you understand?
I don't think you WANT to understand the concept of BLM. Western "Nuclear Family" means two parent households raise children etc.
African "Village" families means the entire village pitches in and helps raise kids up.
You've never heard the saying "It takes a village to raise a family"?
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alterior motives b.
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Ulterior is the word you're looking for 
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"village" is a euphemism for da government...
whoever wants to "disrupt" a nuclear family doesn't have anything good in mind.
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Came so close to touching that one but was able to restrain myself.
I've been here more than long enough to know it won't go anywhere 
OP has me so confused right now. Where is your head at, my G?
I've been here more than long enough to know it won't go anywhere
OP has me so confused right now. Where is your head at, my G?
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Came so close to touching that one but was able to restrain myself.
I've been here more than long enough to know it won't go anywhere
OP has me so confused right now. Where is your head at, my G?
I'm confused as well.
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Came so close to touching that one but was able to restrain myself.
I've been here more than long enough to know it won't go anywhere
OP has me so confused right now. Where is your head at, my G?
I'm confused as well.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_communism
its not that hard folks...
collectivism vs Individualism...
da nuclear family slander is because its a self contained stable unit that doesn't ostensibly need da way another arrangement does.
all in all...u saw what demands Black live matters asked for? might as well be occupy wallstreet..also funded by Soros.
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Came so close to touching that one but was able to restrain myself.
I've been here more than long enough to know it won't go anywhere
OP has me so confused right now. Where is your head at, my G?
I'm confused as well.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_communism
its not that hard folks...
collectivism vs Individualism...
da nuclear family slander is because its a self contained stable unit that doesn't ostensibly need da way another arrangement does.
all in all...u saw what demands Black live matters asked for? might as well be occupy wallstreet..also funded by Soros.
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I don't mean to the individual themself. To everybody else in the world, you are what they see before anything else.
You can identify with whatever you want however you want. That doesnt mean anyone else is going to or has to care.
Ask Ninja
Also tribal living > nuclear family.
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I don't mean to the individual themself. To everybody else in the world, you are what they see before anything else.
You can identify with whatever you want however you want. That doesnt mean anyone else is going to or has to care.
Ask Ninja
Also tribal living > nuclear family.
I mean ninja flat out denies being black, I see what you're saying but some people legit identify with their ethnic group or tribe and then their race.
Which kinda makes sense, especially within classically defined races. An Asian person will emphasize what country they come from but I suppose from the outside looking in some people will just see them as just another Asian person. A Kenyan person will introduce themselves as Kenyan instead of just black. America teaches us to simply identify by our race, it's a cultural thing.
This 1000 times. Thanks for saying that.
I notice that with white people sometimes they'll go into where their family is from, and Asians Hispanics, and Latinos will tell you their country of origin is it comes up/they weren't born here.
Most of us it's just black or "African"
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OP the same dude who got bent out of shape in this thread
http://niketalk.com/t/617036/i-find-this-humorous-patronizing/60
about Nike "exploiting" black history month.
When I pointed out that they have exploitive labor practices and are keen about peddling cancer themed apparel and footwear he made it clear he only cares about his own community.
Evidently, it seems supporting his own community comes with some conditions.
As I said in that thread.
The irony of me quoting myself is that apparently I've said this repeatedly thread after thread.
Some people just don't learn.
http://niketalk.com/t/617036/i-find-this-humorous-patronizing/60
about Nike "exploiting" black history month.
When I pointed out that they have exploitive labor practices and are keen about peddling cancer themed apparel and footwear he made it clear he only cares about his own community.
Evidently, it seems supporting his own community comes with some conditions.
As I said in that thread.
The irony of me quoting myself is that apparently I've said this repeatedly thread after thread.
Some people just don't learn.
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Aside from the usual "big government" "individualism" and mythological crap ("nuclear family") from Ninja, I'm pleasantly surprised by the positive engagement with the BLM material.
A few things. There is BLM (a decentralized organization) and then there is the Movement for Black Lives, a broader collection of countless groups working in service of black liberation. As you can see by the "Vision for Black Lives" platform (released just yesterday), there are a ton of approaches (some in tension) to that objective. But the platform provides a clear engagement with material conditions, makes policy interventions, and is one of the more radical visions we've seen. Peep it here: https://policy.m4bl.org/
Before he was dismayed (scared?) by the whole idea of centering non-cis black men in the movement, ATLien drew attention to the aversion to "narrow nationalism." This is, I think, a very important point.
The 20th century is full of black social movements that constantly fall back on the pursuit of statehood and national self-determination. It shows up in Garvey's UNIA movement and its obviously there in Pan African Nationalist movements in the late '60s and early '70s. Along with the pursuit of black capitalism, always we fall back on nationalism.
But nationalism undoubtedly fueled the first World War. It was key to fascist regimes of the 1930s. Trump evokes a version of it (white nationalism) and Clinton/Obama reproduce a version of it by touting the whole 'greatest nation in the world' thesis. I think it is this toxicity that informs the rejection of narrow nationalism.
But lets go further. Can those of us who identify with the movement for black lives think of liberation outside of the nation-state? What is the place of physical territory in our struggle for liberation?
A few things. There is BLM (a decentralized organization) and then there is the Movement for Black Lives, a broader collection of countless groups working in service of black liberation. As you can see by the "Vision for Black Lives" platform (released just yesterday), there are a ton of approaches (some in tension) to that objective. But the platform provides a clear engagement with material conditions, makes policy interventions, and is one of the more radical visions we've seen. Peep it here: https://policy.m4bl.org/
Before he was dismayed (scared?) by the whole idea of centering non-cis black men in the movement, ATLien drew attention to the aversion to "narrow nationalism." This is, I think, a very important point.
The 20th century is full of black social movements that constantly fall back on the pursuit of statehood and national self-determination. It shows up in Garvey's UNIA movement and its obviously there in Pan African Nationalist movements in the late '60s and early '70s. Along with the pursuit of black capitalism, always we fall back on nationalism.
But nationalism undoubtedly fueled the first World War. It was key to fascist regimes of the 1930s. Trump evokes a version of it (white nationalism) and Clinton/Obama reproduce a version of it by touting the whole 'greatest nation in the world' thesis. I think it is this toxicity that informs the rejection of narrow nationalism.
But lets go further. Can those of us who identify with the movement for black lives think of liberation outside of the nation-state? What is the place of physical territory in our struggle for liberation?
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This is a great quote i've actually never heard it before repped.
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The road to hell is paved.....
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Didn't even know what cis gender was before this thread, don't think I'll be using that term any time soon
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I see what your getting at LOL. Yeah CIS black men isn't that an oxymoron?
To me BLM always seemed like a Black Feminist movement in disguise (which wants male members), it's funny because the feminist movement is one of the reasons why the black family has been torn apart
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you clearly dont know what the feminist movement is...
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it's ok, neither do femenists
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I did some reading on Soros. My impression is that he exploits the financial market during fragile/uncertain periods of time for massive profits.
Even going as far as donating money under the guise of philanthropy but with the ulterior motive of influencing the financial markets for him to profit from. Based on that information, I'm guessing the concerns with him supposedly funding BLM is that he is counting on the movement to affect the markets in some way for him to exploit.
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His end game is an "open society" without national borders. Why? That's another question.
