Time to boycot Bahamas

@ksteezy  you use to be my dude.. when dudes were roasting you, I never joined in the fray because I thought it was dudes getting way to excited to pick on someone for innocent mistakes that we were all capable of making

because of how the Bahamas is situated, if is extremely difficult to guard our boarders.. however, like all nations we too have our immigration policies

if you are overly concerned about the plight of Haitians, maybe you should turn your focus on a number of places before you focus on the bahamas

1st, all of the world powers that participated in essentially ostracizing Haiti from the rest of the world for fighting and winning their freedom from france way back when.. and that continued until Haiti paid an exorbitant tax to france

2nd, look at what the country that Haiti is sharing that island with (Dominican republic) and the things that they do to Haiti and it's people

I could go on.. but that would be a good start for you.. until then

 
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Bahamas one of my fav places on Earth 
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I've moved significantly to the right on border/citizenship issues over the last year. I really don't see the problem with this or with the DR kicking out haitians anymore. That's the price of trying to formalize things. I recall reading that the DR gave haitians months if not longer to get their paperwork in order. It seems the Bahamas did the same. The annoying thing about this article though is they play up the "born in the bahamas" thing. Until the United States most countries didn't give a **** where you were born. You were ethnically and nationally what your parents were. This born here = citizenship thing is a uniquely American and recent concept.

Also generally speaking the world is very much in a no migrants (unless you're smart) mood considering the expenses that go into that process. Human rights groups can complain all they want but many countries can't afford to house a new population adequately and if they let them stay in shanty towns then that creates a breeding ground for crime, which the host country will then be blamed for anyway. May as well skip all of it and send them back home.

As much energy as they spent leaving the country, they could've built their own set up in haiti. It happens all the time. When the government is failing some people leave, the more resourceful ones just set up their own stuff in its place. A good example is Rocinha in Brazil prior to pacification. They had no running water, electricity, rules, nada. They literally had built up their own mini government in the favela rather than just run away. So it's totally doable.

TL;DR Taking in migrants is hard work. Leaving your country IMO is the easy way out. (No hypocrisy here btw...I already have plans to live where my parents come from to help develop down there.)
 
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This the kind of trolling I associate with guys like DC and Ninja, Steezy when I get to NYC we will need to have a talk over some bodega sandwiches
 
Don Adidada said:
I've moved significantly to the right on border/citizenship issues over the last year. I really don't see the problem with this or with the DR kicking out haitians anymore. That's the price of trying to formalize things. I recall reading that the DR gave haitians months if not longer to get their paperwork in order. It seems the Bahamas did the same. The annoying thing about this article though is they play up the "born in the bahamas" thing. Until the United States most countries didn't give a **** where you were born. You were ethnically and nationally what your parents were. This born here = citizenship thing is a uniquely American and recent concept.

Also generally speaking the world is very much in a no migrants (unless you're smart) mood considering the expenses that go into that process. Human rights groups can complain all they want but many countries can't afford to house a new population adequately and if they let them stay in shanty towns then that creates a breeding ground for crime, which the host country will then be blamed for anyway. May as well skip all of it and send them back home.

As much energy as they spent leaving the country, they could've built their own set up in haiti. It happens all the time. When the government is failing some people leave, the more resourceful ones just set up their own stuff in its place. A good example is Rocinha in Brazil prior to pacification. They had no running water, electricity, rules, nada. They literally had built up their own mini government in the favela rather than just run away. So it's totally doable.

TL;DR Taking in migrants is hard work. Leaving your country IMO is the easy way out. (No hypocrisy here btw...I already have plans to live where my parents come from to help develop down there.)
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All of which is easy to say typing from the comforts of the USA. Go tell the people in Syria or Honduras to stay where they are
 
Steezy ain't trolling, he is trying to bait me.

The title is in regards to my comments in another thread
 
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AZwildcats said:
Don Adidada said:
I've moved significantly to the right on border/citizenship issues over the last year. I really don't see the problem with this or with the DR kicking out haitians anymore. That's the price of trying to formalize things. I recall reading that the DR gave haitians months if not longer to get their paperwork in order. It seems the Bahamas did the same. The annoying thing about this article though is they play up the "born in the bahamas" thing. Until the United States most countries didn't give a **** where you were born. You were ethnically and nationally what your parents were. This born here = citizenship thing is a uniquely American and recent concept.

Also generally speaking the world is very much in a no migrants (unless you're smart) mood considering the expenses that go into that process. Human rights groups can complain all they want but many countries can't afford to house a new population adequately and if they let them stay in shanty towns then that creates a breeding ground for crime, which the host country will then be blamed for anyway. May as well skip all of it and send them back home.

As much energy as they spent leaving the country, they could've built their own set up in haiti. It happens all the time. When the government is failing some people leave, the more resourceful ones just set up their own stuff in its place. A good example is Rocinha in Brazil prior to pacification. They had no running water, electricity, rules, nada. They literally had built up their own mini government in the favela rather than just run away. So it's totally doable.

TL;DR Taking in migrants is hard work. Leaving your country IMO is the easy way out. (No hypocrisy here btw...I already have plans to live where my parents come from to help develop down there.)
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All of which is easy to say typing from the comforts of the USA. Go tell the people in Syria or Honduras to stay where they are
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nothing of what he said is wrong thou.

you cant absorb untold amount of illegal immigrants and expect to have a sovereign country. what should be done is stream line citizenship..no reason why it should take so long.
 
LMAO at how civil this discussion is in comparison to others.....the hypocrisy is real.
 
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Don Adidada said:
I've moved significantly to the right on border/citizenship issues over the last year. I really don't see the problem with this or with the DR kicking out haitians anymore. That's the price of trying to formalize things. I recall reading that the DR gave haitians months if not longer to get their paperwork in order. It seems the Bahamas did the same. The annoying thing about this article though is they play up the "born in the bahamas" thing. Until the United States most countries didn't give a **** where you were born. You were ethnically and nationally what your parents were. This born here = citizenship thing is a uniquely American and recent concept.

Also generally speaking the world is very much in a no migrants (unless you're smart) mood considering the expenses that go into that process. Human rights groups can complain all they want but many countries can't afford to house a new population adequately and if they let them stay in shanty towns then that creates a breeding ground for crime, which the host country will then be blamed for anyway. May as well skip all of it and send them back home.

As much energy as they spent leaving the country, they could've built their own set up in haiti. It happens all the time. When the government is failing some people leave, the more resourceful ones just set up their own stuff in its place. A good example is Rocinha in Brazil prior to pacification. They had no running water, electricity, rules, nada. They literally had built up their own mini government in the favela rather than just run away. So it's totally doable.

TL;DR Taking in migrants is hard work. Leaving your country IMO is the easy way out. (No hypocrisy here btw...I already have plans to live where my parents come from to help develop down there.)
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All of which is easy to say typing from the comforts of the USA. Go tell the people in Syria or Honduras to stay where they are
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That's different from Haiti. Those are warzones. Haiti is under no such stress.
 
Don Adidada said:
I've moved significantly to the right on border/citizenship issues over the last year. I really don't see the problem with this or with the DR kicking out haitians anymore. That's the price of trying to formalize things. I recall reading that the DR gave haitians months if not longer to get their paperwork in order. It seems the Bahamas did the same. The annoying thing about this article though is they play up the "born in the bahamas" thing. Until the United States most countries didn't give a **** where you were born. You were ethnically and nationally what your parents were. This born here = citizenship thing is a uniquely American and recent concept.

Also generally speaking the world is very much in a no migrants (unless you're smart) mood considering the expenses that go into that process. Human rights groups can complain all they want but many countries can't afford to house a new population adequately and if they let them stay in shanty towns then that creates a breeding ground for crime, which the host country will then be blamed for anyway. May as well skip all of it and send them back home.

As much energy as they spent leaving the country, they could've built their own set up in haiti. It happens all the time. When the government is failing some people leave, the more resourceful ones just set up their own stuff in its place. A good example is Rocinha in Brazil prior to pacification. They had no running water, electricity, rules, nada. They literally had built up their own mini government in the favela rather than just run away. So it's totally doable.

TL;DR Taking in migrants is hard work. Leaving your country IMO is the easy way out. (No hypocrisy here btw...I already have plans to live where my parents come from to help develop down there.)
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Birth right citizenship is a new world concept. Canada has it and many other countries like the UK had it until the early 1980s, Australia and New Zealand until the early 2000s. It is not just countries following America. Unless you're really talking about hundreds of years ago, which I really don't know why you would.

The country your parents come from (Guyana?) has it too, doesn't it?

I believe the laws in Bahamas is different, plus many other factors make it different situation from the DR's (the race aspect, the history, the hypocrisy).

And sorry, from another immigrant from the Carribbean, you are being hypocritical.

Because you left or your parents left for better opportunists, your argument can be made about them saying where they are and helping out (which to me is really short sighted btw, because people don't choose to immigrate as large groups, it is generally and individual decision ). Going overseas, to gain human capitial in hopes of going back on day seems like a easy way to let yourself off the hook, in order to judge others
 
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Don Adidada said:
 
AZwildcats said:
 
Don Adidada said:
I've moved significantly to the right on border/citizenship issues over the last year. I really don't see the problem with this or with the DR kicking out haitians anymore. That's the price of trying to formalize things. I recall reading that the DR gave haitians months if not longer to get their paperwork in order. It seems the Bahamas did the same. The annoying thing about this article though is they play up the "born in the bahamas" thing. Until the United States most countries didn't give a **** where you were born. You were ethnically and nationally what your parents were. This born here = citizenship thing is a uniquely American and recent concept.

Also generally speaking the world is very much in a no migrants (unless you're smart) mood considering the expenses that go into that process. Human rights groups can complain all they want but many countries can't afford to house a new population adequately and if they let them stay in shanty towns then that creates a breeding ground for crime, which the host country will then be blamed for anyway. May as well skip all of it and send them back home.

As much energy as they spent leaving the country, they could've built their own set up in haiti. It happens all the time. When the government is failing some people leave, the more resourceful ones just set up their own stuff in its place. A good example is Rocinha in Brazil prior to pacification. They had no running water, electricity, rules, nada. They literally had built up their own mini government in the favela rather than just run away. So it's totally doable.

TL;DR Taking in migrants is hard work. Leaving your country IMO is the easy way out. (No hypocrisy here btw...I already have plans to live where my parents come from to help develop down there.)
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All of which is easy to say typing from the comforts of the USA. Go tell the people in Syria or Honduras to stay where they are
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That's different from Haiti. Those are warzones. Haiti is under no such stress.
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Even before the earthquake, they were the poorest people in the Western Hemisphere. "Building their own set up" is not as easy as it sounds in those conditions. 
 
You got some nerve to laugh. He should have inserted your name in there.

I don't play with racial topics.
 
BTW Steezy, pa

This is not exactly like the DR situation.

And sure, if folk wanna avoid the Bahamas for this, it is their prerogative. Like I said, there are tons of other beautiful islands they can visit in the Caribbean.

But I'm not gonna tell folk to boycott like I still do with the DR. Since the last time we talked, I have talked probably over a dozen more people out of going to the DR. My company offers discounted vacation packages to places in the Caribbean, folk know I'm from down there, and when they ask I make sure I talk them out of the DR. srs.

I even talked to HR to try to get the DR taken off the vacation package. They told me hopefully when the renegotiate it in October they can replace it with somewhere else :smokin
 
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