Charlize Theron dressing her black adopted son in a blonde wig and dress...Vol...fam..

That ***** not wearing dresses until he can buy his own though. Like I wouldn't be mad if I caught him and my daughter doing the dress up thing but we keeping that in the house and between us
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So @Colombia  ; would you consider this an example of a parent "forcing" a masculine dressing style on their child? Since he said he wouldn't actively buy his son girl clothing?
 
 
 
did you admit it? do you feel parenting could have changed his personality?
I would be embarrassed if any child of mine had  wild and obnoxious behavior. Their sexual preference doesn't even matter in that case. They can be loud and wild as a straight person and I would have the same level of embarrassment.

I think parenting can influence flamboyancy. I don't think it can influence sexual preference
I can agree with you about having an obnoxious kid. But I also think you're not being totally honest when using flamboyant in ragards to Magic's son.
 
I personally feel this comment is ********.

You asked if my son was flamboyant, like Magic's son, right? You said nothing of my son making a scene in public spaces, or being rude and disrespectful towards the general public.

But to make your argument work, you go ahead and move the goal post

That is fine
Have you seen how Magic Jr acts in public? (Based on his TV persona)?

It is LOUD and WILD.

It isn't just a few switches and finger waves.
 
 
What do you all think about same sex couples who adopt kids? 

A girl from my HS who dated my friend for about a year and a half had two moms who adopted her in her teens. 

After she broke up with him she started dating girls. My friend swore it was her moms who persuaded her/turned her lesbian.

I personally don't know if that was the case, but I do think being in a same sex household would change how you look at that type of relationship 
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I'm a firm believer that homosexuality is something you are born with, not something that can be taught. I think they'll be more inclined to accept homosexuality and have a positive view on it but that's about it
I also believe it is something you are born with, but at the same time I also believe you can change.... 
 
I think if a child grows up in a same sex household it would make them more inclined to try it. I'm not saying gay people make children gay but when you grow up seeing a happy relationship between two people of the same sex it should make you more open to the idea. Whether or not it takes is something different. Trying a homosexual relationship and being homosexual are not the same.
This is kind of what I thought. I believe maybe she saw how happy her two moms were and decided to try it out. My friend is the last boyfriend she ever had and its been 2 and a half years since then. She's had a few two girlfriends since then. 
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What do you all think about same sex couples who adopt kids? 

I personally don't know if that was the case, but I do think being in a same sex household would change how you look at that type of relationship 
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1. I have always wondered this. Good question. Do you think the parents would prefer that their kids had the same sexual preference as them? 

2. I believe children are simply influenced by what they are around. So in that situation, they will be able to be more open to a same sexed relationship/ That isn't to say they are any more or less likely to follow in the same footsteps. But I am sure there IS data for that somewhere
More open to it, and therefore more open to try it out. She's been dating girls for two and half years now like I said. But would she have ever dated girls in the first place if she had a male and female parent relationship rather than two female same sex? 
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i'd hope my children weren't homosexual because i would like to have grandchildren.

and it's against mother nature.
 
Whenever I see white people adopt black kids it always looks like some weird control thing.
You'd have to be one sick **** to commit to such an unnecessary burden as adopting a child that's not yours (and furthermore a minority), solely/primarily to feel a sense of "power/control" over a minority.

Is it impossible? No, I'm sure there are some  white people out there who have done that for that reason, but I'm willing to bet it's extremely rare.

I would say it's more likely that the adopter is on some reverse racism **** where they might (pretentiously and ignorantly) think, "Hey, let me adopt this black kid because that'll be my own special contribution to the black community for their plight."

Do we know where this kid is from? (Wondering if he's from Africa like Angelina Jolie's kid.)
 
Sure, there are levels to everything. You are right.

But I said all of to say that EYE THINK, the dudes in here that say they wouldn't want their son dressed up like a girl care more about

A. How it LOOKS and how it will make the world look at their "failed" fatherhood-ship

Over

B. The fact that their son might actually one day like men.

The perception of their son being gay is greater than the reality of their son being gay.

Because it isn't like anyone is watching your son have sex with other men, so their sexuality REALLY doesn't matter to the public

I agree with that because a few members have expressed that exact sentiment

But there are also people who I believe wouldn't want their son in a dress because they think it will "turn" their child gay. That could be just because of the optics and how they think it reflects on them as a parent, or it could be that they just don't like gay people
 
I agree with that because a few members have expressed that exact sentiment

But there are also people who I believe wouldn't want their son in a dress because they think it will "turn" their child gay. That could be just because of the optics and how they think it reflects on them as a parent, or it could be that they just don't like gay people
But my question is why do we semi shame people for saying they wouldn't want/allow their sons to wear a dress? ( irregardless ( @AZwildcats   ) of WHY they wouldn't want them to do so)
 
So you think ALL instances of homosexuality was present at birth? 
Defined as genuine attraction for the opposite sex, yes. I believe they were born that way. Even some animals display homosexuality, and I never "chose" to be straight so I don't think gays do either. And why would all those people willingly be gay and face discrimination for the rest of their life? Or even prison or death in some countries.
As a male nurse I've worked with a fair share of gay men. Those I've had conversations with about the subject have all said they knew from an early age they were different from other boys, but they didn't really grasp the concept until they got older.
On the other hand some people "experiment", mostly girls. I think that particular curiosity is nurtured, as lesbian behavior is also much more accepted. What straight man doesn't like to see 2 hot women kissing? So I think that's where the experimentation comes from, and it doesn't necessarily mean they're truly gay.
 
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NT says "It's ok for a woman to act like a man/be a tomboy"

But then NT says "It is ABSOLUTELY NOT ok for a man to act like a woman"

Then NT says "It's ok if my son is gay, I just don't want him to be flamboyant"

But then NT says "HAHA! LOOK AT THE ZEST ON THAT GUY! HE'S FLAMING GAY!"

Head scratching indeed.
 
But my question is why do we semi shame people for saying they wouldn't want/allow their sons to wear a dress? ( irregardless ( @AZwildcats
  ) of WHY they wouldn't want them to do so)
Show me one person that said you should be ashamed for not allowing your kid to wear a dress.

You're trying to take out the WHOLE reasoning as to why this argument started. If people didn't think wearing a dress was emasculating kids and turning them gay, this wouldn't be a topic.
 
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If ALL your children turn out gay maybe mother nature is trying to tell you something. Natural selection b
 
In short, masculinity is one of the most fragile things on this planet.
Definitely. Just look at the different perception of lesbians compared to gays. A lot more men are utterly disgusted by gay behavior than women disgusted by lesbians. Anything even remotely hinting at acceptance of homosexuality in their minds is perceived as an attack on their masculinity.
 
But my question is why do we semi shame people for saying they wouldn't want/allow their sons to wear a dress? ( irregardless ( @AZwildcats
  ) of WHY they wouldn't want them to do so)

I don't have an answer for that...but it cuts both ways

People who say they have no issue with it are shamed too...just look at the way Charlene's parenting skills have been questioned in here
 
In short, masculinity is one of the most fragile things on this planet.

I find it utterly ridiculous why masculinity is such a big deal to men. My whole point is that masculinity and femininity are social constructs that don't matter. The fact we care so much about what Charlize Theron's kid is wearing is stupid.
 
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