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Missed two field goals and just had some bad play calling and bad throws in those last 28 seconds before the half. Could have way more control of this game.
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Based on what I saw and read about the second half, seems like it was a defensive game from both teams. Glad for the win, but you feel like it should have been more impressive. There were too many times Bortles was about to get hit, yet managed to make conversions. Outside of that, the defense played well. The offense was still struggle-filled besides the running game. Monday night in Mexico vs the Raiders, you need all the offense you can get.
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Two TDs no INTs 
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Very disappointing to wake up and know that Nick Novak hasn't been cut yet. He should have been left in Jacksonville after yesterday. He's been a weak kicker anyway, so we just need to wash our hands of him and move forward with somebody else. I hate how we always end up with these crappy weak leg kickers. Had that not been the Jags, those missed kicks would have costed us the game.
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**** Brock Osweiler
Free Nuk
Free Nuk
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Brock sucks... But
Greg Cosell who has forgot more football than all of us in here will ever know criticized Nuk for struggling to get off the line against press coverage, thus easily throwing off timing.
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**** Greg Cosell too
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Houston Texans players are being advised by the team not to leave the hotel and not to order room service during their trip to Mexico City for Monday night’s game against the Oakland Raiders.
The game is part of the NFL’s international series and the first NFL game in Mexico City since 2005.
The Associated Press was given a look at a memo distributed to the team on Wednesday that included a page of information concerning the trip to Mexico, including those two rules.
A section of the memo under the heading “safety” had a bullet point with: “DO NOT leave the hotel.” It was followed by a line advising players to leave all “expensive jewelry at home,” not to bring large sums of money and not to use ATMs.
A second section titled “health and performance” has basic tips like drinking only bottled water and avoiding the consumption of ice. It also warned: “Eat all meals in the meal room. DO NOT order room service” and “DO NOT eat outside of the team meal room.”
The precautions the Texans have provided players are not uncommon for any foreigners traveling to Mexico. Executives visiting the city for business are often given the same warnings from their companies to avoid leaving their hotels without security.
The rule about room service could be related to a memo the NFL sent to its players earlier this year warning that some meat produced in China and Mexico may be contaminated with clenbuterol, a banned steroid. That memo, sent by the league office, said that consuming large quantities of meat while visiting those countries may result in a positive test for clenbuterol. The memo told the players to “please take caution if you decide to consume meat, and understand that you do so at your own risk.”
Clenbuterol has been banned in Mexico as a growth enhancer for cattle but is suspected to still be in use there.
The Raiders did not receive such a memo, but several players said they would not eat room service while in Mexico.
“I always bring my own food anyway,” Oakland defensive tackle Dan Williams said. “I’m on a strict diet so I have to watch what I eat. No room service for me. I can’t afford to sneak and cheat.”
The game is part of the NFL’s international series and the first NFL game in Mexico City since 2005.
The Associated Press was given a look at a memo distributed to the team on Wednesday that included a page of information concerning the trip to Mexico, including those two rules.
A section of the memo under the heading “safety” had a bullet point with: “DO NOT leave the hotel.” It was followed by a line advising players to leave all “expensive jewelry at home,” not to bring large sums of money and not to use ATMs.
A second section titled “health and performance” has basic tips like drinking only bottled water and avoiding the consumption of ice. It also warned: “Eat all meals in the meal room. DO NOT order room service” and “DO NOT eat outside of the team meal room.”
The precautions the Texans have provided players are not uncommon for any foreigners traveling to Mexico. Executives visiting the city for business are often given the same warnings from their companies to avoid leaving their hotels without security.
The rule about room service could be related to a memo the NFL sent to its players earlier this year warning that some meat produced in China and Mexico may be contaminated with clenbuterol, a banned steroid. That memo, sent by the league office, said that consuming large quantities of meat while visiting those countries may result in a positive test for clenbuterol. The memo told the players to “please take caution if you decide to consume meat, and understand that you do so at your own risk.”
Clenbuterol has been banned in Mexico as a growth enhancer for cattle but is suspected to still be in use there.
The Raiders did not receive such a memo, but several players said they would not eat room service while in Mexico.
“I always bring my own food anyway,” Oakland defensive tackle Dan Williams said. “I’m on a strict diet so I have to watch what I eat. No room service for me. I can’t afford to sneak and cheat.”
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http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Derek-Carr-on-Texans-draft-They-didn-t-even-10622741.php
I didn't know we didn't even interview dude
when you actually hear him talk and read up on his approach to the game, he gives off vibes nothing like his brother. you wouldn't pick that up if you don't interview him or anything though
I didn't know we didn't even interview dude
when you actually hear him talk and read up on his approach to the game, he gives off vibes nothing like his brother. you wouldn't pick that up if you don't interview him or anything though
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http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Derek-Carr-on-Texans-draft-They-didn-t-even-10622741.php
I didn't know we didn't even interview dude
when you actually hear him talk and read up on his approach to the game, he gives off vibes nothing like his brother. you wouldn't pick that up if you don't interview him or anything though
I thought they had at least checked him out during the combine, that stinks, even though I wasn't originally sold n him anyway. But it makes sense. David Carr was shell-shocked, and simply didn't love football. He wasn't a film dude, and he even said himself he never figured out how to carry himself as an NFL player til he was on the Giants. Then he was able to hip his brother to everything he learned. Major botch from McNair/Smith.
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damn man, this is trash...i didn't even read this part originally and honestly wasn't into football as much as basketball in 02, so I didn't even know this |I
""I started off at First Colony Middle School and then I went on to play at Clements, at Fort Bend Clements, and we had a great run there, winning the district and all those things and going 10-0, having a 10-0 season my junior year," Carr said. "Just a lot of great memories, man. I love Houston."
without knowing anymore this is foul, like Rockets handling of Rashard Lewis foul. I can't support McNair (already didn't kinda)
""I started off at First Colony Middle School and then I went on to play at Clements, at Fort Bend Clements, and we had a great run there, winning the district and all those things and going 10-0, having a 10-0 season my junior year," Carr said. "Just a lot of great memories, man. I love Houston."
without knowing anymore this is foul, like Rockets handling of Rashard Lewis foul. I can't support McNair (already didn't kinda)
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Derek is a year younger than me. My 8th grade year, we played at first colony, and the 7th graders played at my school.
When we got back to school, David was there watching and he was just getting mobbed by kids
This was in 2003 when people still had faith that he would good
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Oh come on. Do you releasing how much heat the organization would get if they drafted Derek and he sucked?
From my recollection, no one in Houston wanted Derek Carr. But now that he's good, we ****** up
From my recollection, no one in Houston wanted Derek Carr. But now that he's good, we ****** up
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Oh come on. Do you releasing how much heat the organization would get if they drafted Derek and he sucked?
From my recollection, no one in Houston wanted Derek Carr. But now that he's good, we ****** up
That's pretty much what it is, but it just looks rrrrrreally bad now, and fits right in with blunders this team has made over the years
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Oh come on. Do you releasing how much heat the organization would get if they drafted Derek and he sucked?
From my recollection, no one in Houston wanted Derek Carr. But now that he's good, we ****** up
it's one thing for us as fans to make a generalization that "no way we draft David Carr's brother", but we aren't being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars (to millions) to actually vet this out. there's way more to this...even as a fan, i could catch a vibe that david carr didn't seem like much of a leader. dude seemed "scary" and kinda friendly in his all his interviews
. it was a bad stint having him, but i also realize that generational talent in family normally gets better over time. he had tutelage from an NFL player. Also, the dude is from the damn city man, you have to at least give that man a call and pick his brain...if you listen to derek carr in any interview, dude lowkey "sounds like he's black"
. has kind of a boldness to his tone and i was listening to espn radio and Donald Penn pretty much validated that when they were asking about his leadership. You obviously don't have to "sound black" to show confidence, but there's always a general swag or confidence to all the good/great QBs that I never sense from David. I've sensed it fromed Derek the first time I heard him. Donald Penn also said that he's shown flashes literally since day 1 and he's able to intelligently speak about his dissection and study of the game. When you watch him play, its obvious too. dude lowkey is adding wrinkles to his game every time i see him play. Lowkey looking like a baby A rodge at times with some of his quick flips and throws.I can't say we would have detected whatever in his game if we truly scouted him, but leading up to the draft, Carr was trending up pretty hard. They were saying he might be the best QB in the draft, so it wasn't a mystery. His ability to make throws was always praised. The question was his decision making at times and level of competition.
Sorry for the wall of text...My whole thing is we never called the man though...
and he was drafted in the 2nd round. I remember the talk about us "having" to take a QB overall #1 that year but we drafted Clowney and all the QBs slid. I was pretty mad at the time we didn't get Bridgewater/Johnny considering there were talks of one of those guys at 1 overall. We just are trash QB talent evaluators I guess. I don't know what we're doing out here though, not even calling guys
there must be more to these stories that i simply dont know. maybe i have selective memory about Carr idk man, none of this is adding up
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The David Carr situation definitely had to burn McNair because this team hasn't invested a high draft pick in a QB since.
There are a lot of people in that organization who seem like they don't know what they're doing. As much of a jank coach I think BOB is he is hamstrung by the front office.
There are a lot of people in that organization who seem like they don't know what they're doing. As much of a jank coach I think BOB is he is hamstrung by the front office.
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The fact that Rick Smith still has a job in any capacity tells you all you need to know about ownership.
McNair is is trying to do things the right way, but he's delusional.
McNair is is trying to do things the right way, but he's delusional.
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Still banking on shining with 1st round picks (which are usually obvious anyway), undrafted guys, and street FA pickups during the season. Eventually, you'll have to figure out how to choose good-great 2nd-5th round guys. The 2016 draft could possibly be it, but that's year 10 of Rick Smith. Year 10.
Year 10.
Year 10.
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Hopefully this is just an exaggeration cause reading this sounds like this could be the makings of a really bad football game, for both the viewers and the players
Pollution, altitude could make Azteca Stadium 'devastating' for Raiders, Texans
MEXICO CITY – As the National Football League seeks to further broaden its international reach with Monday’s clash between the Oakland Raiders and Houston Texans, the match-up is already guaranteed to be the high point of the season in one regard.
Azteca Stadium sits at 7,280 feet above sea level, higher than Denver’s Sports Authority Field at Mile High, which is by far the NFL’s most-elevated venue at 5,280 feet. The height, plus the atmospheric conditions of Mexico’s capital, could cause significant issues for the players.
“Azteca Stadium is the worst place to ever play a sporting event,” former United States national team soccer star Eric Wynalda told USA TODAY Sports.
“You can’t breathe. The pollution is so bad that if you don’t have some form of rain that’s brought all that down you are going to be sucking wind.
“They (will) break a record for how many oxygen masks they have on the sidelines. The combination of being that high up with pollution is just devastating to the body.”
The U.S. soccer teams Wynalda played on are among many sporting visitors to the venue that have struggled desperately. The altitude of Mexico City, added to the smog that accumulates in the bowl-like natural topography that surrounds it, gives home teams a huge advantage.
Both the Raiders and Texans are in the same position of unfamiliarity, each being coy on the measures they are using to combat the elements. Local sports medicine and respiration doctor Jorge Avendano Reyes warned that the players are in for a rough ride.
“There can be headaches, dizziness, sensation of fatigue, accelerated heartbeat, hyperventilation,” Reyes said. “We can also have respiratory symptoms, when we are exposed often to the pollution.
“The amount of oxygen that reaches the cells decreases, leading to the faster heartbeat and cardiac activity. The body tries to ventilate more quickly.”
The Azteca is an iconic venue in Mexico, the only stadium to have hosted two soccer World Cup finals. Teams familiar with the surroundings claim that the complaints of visitors are nothing but sour grapes. Yet science suggests otherwise.
Reyes said bigger players such as linemen would find things more testing than leaner athletes, while adding that typical oxygen masks may do little to help aid respiration.
“We’re on an equal playing field,” Texans offensive lineman Duane Brown said. “No one’s more used to the altitude than the other team, so we’re all going out there with the same struggle, if there will be a struggle.”
“You don’t really feel it until you stop and when your heart starts to beat and tries to slow down,” Wynalda said. “You just have these moments where you click out. You almost feel like you are going to pass out. The players stop for a second, you try to catch your breath, and then it is almost like you’ve just had a very long blink, and something bad happens.
“For American football I really am curious to see how these guys handle it. It is going to have a massive effect on their body. These are some big bodies out there, 300 pounds people who are trying to get oxygen into their muscles and to their brains. I think you will see a lot of delay of game penalties.”
Conventional wisdom suggests that teams should either come in two weeks early to allow the body to adapt to the conditions – or very late to reduce the amount of time for the elements to make an impact. Given that the former option was impossible, both teams were due to arrive on Sunday.
cause reading this sounds like this could be the makings of a really bad football game, for both the viewers and the playersPollution, altitude could make Azteca Stadium 'devastating' for Raiders, Texans
MEXICO CITY – As the National Football League seeks to further broaden its international reach with Monday’s clash between the Oakland Raiders and Houston Texans, the match-up is already guaranteed to be the high point of the season in one regard.
Azteca Stadium sits at 7,280 feet above sea level, higher than Denver’s Sports Authority Field at Mile High, which is by far the NFL’s most-elevated venue at 5,280 feet. The height, plus the atmospheric conditions of Mexico’s capital, could cause significant issues for the players.
“Azteca Stadium is the worst place to ever play a sporting event,” former United States national team soccer star Eric Wynalda told USA TODAY Sports.
“You can’t breathe. The pollution is so bad that if you don’t have some form of rain that’s brought all that down you are going to be sucking wind.
“They (will) break a record for how many oxygen masks they have on the sidelines. The combination of being that high up with pollution is just devastating to the body.”
The U.S. soccer teams Wynalda played on are among many sporting visitors to the venue that have struggled desperately. The altitude of Mexico City, added to the smog that accumulates in the bowl-like natural topography that surrounds it, gives home teams a huge advantage.
Both the Raiders and Texans are in the same position of unfamiliarity, each being coy on the measures they are using to combat the elements. Local sports medicine and respiration doctor Jorge Avendano Reyes warned that the players are in for a rough ride.
“There can be headaches, dizziness, sensation of fatigue, accelerated heartbeat, hyperventilation,” Reyes said. “We can also have respiratory symptoms, when we are exposed often to the pollution.
“The amount of oxygen that reaches the cells decreases, leading to the faster heartbeat and cardiac activity. The body tries to ventilate more quickly.”
The Azteca is an iconic venue in Mexico, the only stadium to have hosted two soccer World Cup finals. Teams familiar with the surroundings claim that the complaints of visitors are nothing but sour grapes. Yet science suggests otherwise.
Reyes said bigger players such as linemen would find things more testing than leaner athletes, while adding that typical oxygen masks may do little to help aid respiration.
“We’re on an equal playing field,” Texans offensive lineman Duane Brown said. “No one’s more used to the altitude than the other team, so we’re all going out there with the same struggle, if there will be a struggle.”
“You don’t really feel it until you stop and when your heart starts to beat and tries to slow down,” Wynalda said. “You just have these moments where you click out. You almost feel like you are going to pass out. The players stop for a second, you try to catch your breath, and then it is almost like you’ve just had a very long blink, and something bad happens.
“For American football I really am curious to see how these guys handle it. It is going to have a massive effect on their body. These are some big bodies out there, 300 pounds people who are trying to get oxygen into their muscles and to their brains. I think you will see a lot of delay of game penalties.”
Conventional wisdom suggests that teams should either come in two weeks early to allow the body to adapt to the conditions – or very late to reduce the amount of time for the elements to make an impact. Given that the former option was impossible, both teams were due to arrive on Sunday.
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Texans inactives:
QB Brandon Weeden
WR Jaelen Strong
RB Alfred Blue
RB Jonathan Grimes
G Josh Walker
G Oday Aboushi
DE Brandon Dunn
QB Brandon Weeden
WR Jaelen Strong
RB Alfred Blue
RB Jonathan Grimes
G Josh Walker
G Oday Aboushi
DE Brandon Dunn
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I hate this ******* team
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We got some real good building blocks. Best I've felt in a while but most frustrated also considering how much talent is there. Hopefully we keep addressing OL, get a dynamic TE, stick with a healthy Bouye, get another big rangyy CB or safety, and get another LB
I'm convinced Clowney could be a DT if he wanted to. That bull rush and quickness is crazy
I'm convinced Clowney could be a DT if he wanted to. That bull rush and quickness is crazy
