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Great to exercise some demons from the playoffs. Defense set the tone and played well pretty much the entire game. The offense made plays when needed, but the o-line was atrocious. Brock got some of those passes off simply cause he's big and tall. Really need Duane Brown back, along with general consistency. Lamar Miller wasn't given too much help by the line, but both him and the WRs managed to get key first downs when needed. The defense was all over the field making life hell for Smith, and only gave up plays late. Still need to work on the run D more, but i can't complain much about the defense. everybody did something. Watt, Clowney, McKinney, Simon, KJohnson, Hal, Bouye....so many guys contributing. Special teams didn't play as well as last week, and had it not been a penalty on the Chiefs, that could have been a disaster. Short turnaround this week. Won't officially know whether Jimmy G will go or not til probably Tuesday or Wednesday.










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They cheated Nuk of that TD though
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Trill Fuller pimp.gif

Sons hands are shaky but boy can fly laugh.gif

All he has to do is keep out running everyone and he'll have time to juggle and catch.
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How is this not a TD?
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They cheated Nuk of that TD though

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How is this not a TD?

Even with them not ruling it a TD, they STILL should've called a PI on the DB, cause that's why Hopkins was off balanced trying to catch that in the first place
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Trill Fuller pimp.gif

Sons hands are shaky but boy can fly laugh.gif

All he has to do is keep out running everyone and he'll have time to juggle and catch.

Fuller makes me nervous, but not like how Kesean Martin and Jacoby Jones used to make me nervous laugh.gif
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I only trust a few things about rick smith.

His first round picks.

His value FA signings.

In fuller I trust laugh.gif
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I only trust a few things about rick smith.

His first round picks.

His value FA signings.

In fuller I trust laugh.gif

Take a look at the 2102 and 2013 drafts. Hopkins, Griffin, and Mercilius are the only guys still left. That is atrocious. The amount of whiffs in those drafts is unbelievable. I'm not too bothered by guys we let go fur to paydays (Barwin, Crick, Mitchell, etc), but we could sure use Ben Jones and Brandon Brooks right now laugh.gif
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All he has to do is keep out running everyone and he'll have time to juggle and catch.

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won't lie, Will made me a believer pretty quickly. Mainly just that he has a good release off the line, some solid agility/vision, and seems to be generally cerebral and trying to hone his craft. Those damn drops gotta be gone by year 2-3 though
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So I've watched most of you guys first two games because Lamar Miller is on my fantasy team....did you guys lose any starters on your OL or are they just not playing very well? The run blocking has been pretty bad. Lamar just needs a hole and he's taking off but it's like he's just running into the back of the OL for like 3 or 4 yards every time.
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So I've watched most of you guys first two games because Lamar Miller is on my fantasy team....did you guys lose any starters on your OL or are they just not playing very well? The run blocking has been pretty bad. Lamar just needs a hole and he's taking off but it's like he's just running into the back of the OL for like 3 or 4 yards every time.


Yea,

Duane Brown (former all pro LT) hurt
Lost Ben Jones
Nick Martin out for the season

we added Jeff Allen, but our OL is definitely in bad shape. If we can get that together, this might be the best team we've had to date.
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Yea,

Duane Brown (former all pro LT) hurt
Lost Ben Jones
Nick Martin out for the season

we added Jeff Allen, but our OL is definitely in bad shape. If we can get that together, this might be the best team we've had to date.

You would think that with having a more respectable QB than they've had in years along with Hopkins and Fuller that Lamar would have tons of running room but it definitely hasn't happened yet. You think it'll be a lot better once Duane Allen is back?
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You would think that with having a more respectable QB than they've had in years along with Hopkins and Fuller that Lamar would have tons of running room but it definitely hasn't happened yet. You think it'll be a lot better once Duane Allen is back?


he's getting old, but yea. We need both him and Nick Martin back. We need to hit on more picks or in FA on the OL too b/c we don't know how good Nick will actually be. Most of us are assuming b/c of his brother laugh.gif

and Siafilo looks like a bust

and it never hurts to have a little depth at OL even if all your starters are there.

Plus, I always say it, but Derek Newton was in conversation of worst starting RT in the league imo. He's had some of his better years recently though, ill admit.
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You would think that with having a more respectable QB than they've had in years along with Hopkins and Fuller that Lamar would have tons of running room but it definitely hasn't happened yet. You think it'll be a lot better once Duane Allen is back?


he's getting old, but yea. We need both him and Nick Martin back. We need to hit on more picks or in FA on the OL too b/c we don't know how good Nick will actually be. Most of us are assuming b/c of his brother laugh.gif

and Siafilo looks like a bust

and it never hurts to have a little depth at OL even if all your starters are there.

Plus, I always say it, but Derek Newton was in conversation of worst starting RT in the league imo. He's had some of his better years recently though, ill admit.

This. Newton was soooooo bad at one point, and played his way into a good contract, and has played pretty well since. There's just injuries and too many guys having to shuffle around, not enough consistency
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So I've watched most of you guys first two games because Lamar Miller is on my fantasy team....did you guys lose any starters on your OL or are they just not playing very well? The run blocking has been pretty bad. Lamar just needs a hole and he's taking off but it's like he's just running into the back of the OL for like 3 or 4 yards every time.

OL is a bad spot on the team. also, not utilizing miller's speed by getting him on the edge. really trying to force him into a between the tackle rusher
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OL is a bad spot on the team. also, not utilizing miller's speed by getting him on the edge. really trying to force him into a between the tackle rusher

Yeah that's another thing I don't get. They're feeding him the ball to go up the gut like he's a damn power rusher. He's not breaking any big plays right now because they aren't getting him on the edge at all.
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OL is a bad spot on the team. also, not utilizing miller's speed by getting him on the edge. really trying to force him into a between the tackle rusher

Yeah that's another thing I don't get. They're feeding him the ball to go up the gut like he's a damn power rusher. He's not breaking any big plays right now because they aren't getting him on the edge at all.

Yea that's been very annoying even with the bad OL, got him trying to be Eddie George or Jerome Bettis SMH
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Well they can't just have every run play be an off tackle play if he's an every down back laugh.gif
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Well they can't just have every run play be an off tackle play if he's an every down back laugh.gif

But there hasn't been a single time he's ran on the edge laugh.gif it's like every single play they attempt to have him run up the gut like he's Lendale White
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Texans' Bill O'Brien preparing for Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett

HOUSTON -- The Houston Texans aren't sure who will start at quarterback for the New England Patriots on Thursday night after starter Jimmy Garoppolo left Sunday's game against the Dolphins with a shoulder injury.

Texans head coach Bill O'Brien said Houston has to prepare for both possible starting quarterbacks, Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett, as well as tight end Rob Gronkowski, who is dealing with a hamstring injury.

“To me, we have to get ready for Jimmy, we have to get ready for Jacoby and we have to get ready for Gronkowski," O'Brien said. "We just need to do a really good job of being really focused over the next three days here. There may not be a lot of physical work, but there will be a lot of mental work."

O'Brien praised both quarterbacks from the film he has watched and what he saw from Brissett while evaluating him during the pre-draft process.

"[Garoppolo's] two games against Arizona and Miami were very impressive," O'Brien said. "This guy is a really good quarterback, smart, quick release, accurate, can run, tough guy.

"When Jacoby went in there (Sunday), I thought he handled the game really well, good poise. We will continue to study. We will work hard, just like they are working hard, and try to do the best we can to put together a good game plan.”


Here are six players to watch, courtesy of ESPN Patriots reporter Mike Reiss:
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OFFENSE

QB Jacoby Brissett: The 2016 third-round pick from NC State (91st overall) looks like he’ll be thrust into a starting role in just his third career NFL game. One of the first things that stands out is his size (6-foot-4, 235 pounds). He is tough to tackle, somewhat similar to Jaguars quarterback Blake Bortles. Teammates and coaches have praised his poise, saying he is not easily rattled. He initially committed to the University of Florida before transferring to NC State and is mentored by Pro Football Hall of Famer Bill Parcells.

RB LeGarrette Blount: The last time Texans fans saw the bruising 250-pound power back was Dec. 13, 2015 when he left the Patriots-Texans game in Houston with a hip ailment that landed him on injured reserve. Blount has run hard through two games this season (51 carries, 193 yards, 2 TDs), with coach Bill Belichick saying one of the big differences between 2015 and 2016 for Blount is that he has more space to run as a result of better blocking up front.

TE Martellus Bennett: A nine-year NFL veteran, he was acquired from the Bears in a March trade after making waves in Chicago as he didn’t mix well with quarterback Jay Cutler. He has bought into the Patriots’ hard-driving culture and said after Sunday’s win that he hasn’t had this much fun playing football in some time. Bennett played 69 of 71 snaps in the opener and then was on for all 80 snaps in Week 2 as he’ll filled in for Rob Gronkowski and made major contributions as a blocker and pass-catcher.

DEFENSE

DE Chris Long: After eight seasons with the Rams, the 2008 first-round draft choice signed a modest one-year deal to join the Patriots in the offseason and has quickly emerged as a top performer and emotional leader of sorts. Long battled injuries in 2014 and 2015, which contributed to his drop in production, and a return to health has been cited as a critical factor in him regaining some of his old explosion. Defensive coordinator Matt Patricia said, “Chris is just a true professional, a very coachable guy and a great addition to the team as far as being a great teammate. I think for him and for us, it’s just been a good kind of fresh start to have him here.”

LB Jamie Collins: The 2013 second-round pick is one of the NFL’s most athletic players at the position and was asked to do more in Sunday’s win with fellow linebacker Dont'a Hightower out with a knee injury. Collins wore the green dot on his helmet as the primary communicator and leader of the huddle. One of his highlight plays came in 2015 when he leaped over the line of scrimmage to block an extra point against the Colts, which showcased the type of athleticism he has. He is scheduled for unrestricted free agency after the season.

CB Malcolm Butler: The Super Bowl XLIX hero built off his his interception against Seattle to put together a Pro Bowl season in 2015. One thing to watch for Thursday night is how an ankle injury affects him, as he had some struggles in the second half of Sunday’s win over the Dolphins. At his best, his reactive athleticism to mirror opposing receivers is one of the top assets, as he is a feisty competitor who sometimes draws the opponent’s top receiver. He is scheduled to be a restricted free agent after the season.
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Let's get this one pimp.gifpimp.gif
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Field position has been brutal
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This offense jeez and the o line isn't helping anything
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All phases of the game trash. I'm only blaming the defense due to special teams playing awful and the shoddy offense keeping them on the field. This was brutal. Outcoached and outplayed in every way. You can't come off a good redeeming win over one thorn in your side and put on this type of performance against another. Bad QB play, bad o-line play, leading to nothing from the WRs nor the RBs. Just 1 of the many types of losses that will add to everything the national media already thinks about them.
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Like seriously, why do we have to lose like this on Primetime?!! We didn't have any fight in is the whole game. I hope this is our Dolphins game like last year and we wake the **** up!!
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