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^Im definitely saying they should draft a lineman high if the play if for Romo, or [ideally] bring in a vet Fa and eliminate some of these other linemen we have. Was hoping they'd look at Ricky Wagner, but he's already been scooped up by the Lions. I'm also saying this assuming that Nick Martin steps right in and produces.

I feel you on the loss of Bouye as well, but I knew you'd command a ton of money that the Texans should devout to the line more. Plus, unlike the middle rounds, I actually trust them finding another undrafted guy that could eventually be him. I'm just hoping they don't go the Ed Reed route and bring in an aging vet to be an "on the field coach" but can't physically produce on the field.

John Simon 3yrs 17 mil to the Colts. They are some scumbags laugh.gif
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Mark Berman‏ @MarkBermanFox26 21 minutes ago
TE Ryan Griffin gets a 3-year contract from the #Texans worth $9 million, $3.2 million guaranteed


What a cheap contract laugh.giflaugh.gif
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roll.gif good lord Brock
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The Ringer’s first mock draft has Texans taking Forrest Lamp

As of right now it would be a surprise if the Houston Texans don’t take a quarterback or offensive tackle in the first round.

Over the past couple of months a lot of mock drafts from around the web have the Houston Texans going with Texas Tech quarterback Patrick Mahomes or offensive tackles Garrett Bolles or Ryan Ramczyk.

This one is a first.

Danny Kelly of The Ringer posted his first mock draft of the offseason and he has the Houston Texans using the 25th overall pick on offensive lineman Forrest Lamp.

Xavier Su’a-Filo and Jeff Allen were liabilities for Houston last year, so the Texans address the interior offensive line with the barrel-chested Lamp. The former Hilltopper brings the potential to play either interior spot, and because of his Go-Go Gadget arm growth from the Senior Bowl to the combine, could even compete for a spot at right tackle opposite Duane Brown.

Many people have been raving about Lamp. Especially Mike Mayock of the NFL Network. But I’m not sure he’s a first round talent due to the fact that he may not be good enough to play tackle in the NFL.

Lamp is the 17th ranked prospect on Daniel Jeremiah’s big board.

Lamp carries weight well on his 6-foot-4 frame. He excelled at offensive tackle in college, but I believe it would be in his best interest to move inside to guard at the next level. This is one of the more technically sound linemen you’ll see at the college level. He is quick out of his stance and he bends really well. He keeps his hands in tight and consistently stays on balance. He is always very patient and doesn’t overextend. In the run game, he runs his feet on contact and generates movement at the point of attack. He was lights-out against Alabama. His lack of ideal height and length could be an issue in the NFL but that would be alleviated with a move to guard. Overall, Lamp is very strong, consistent and reliable, which should allow him to get on the field right away.
With this year’s crop of offensive lineman not blowing everyone away, if Lamp is only good enough to play guard in the NFL, he may not be worth taking in the first round.

When it comes to first round, it’s all about getting value for your pick. Not necessarily drafting according to need.

It wouldn’t be smart for the Texans to draft a player like Lamp when there are questions about whether he’s good enough to play tackle. - Fansided
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I figured since the Texans have been so quiet in free agency that they would address some stuff in-house. What's mentioned about Chris Clark has me sick.gif though. Dude was awful last year and I don't see that changing. No matter who is the QB here, that's not a guy who needs to be on the roster. If Romo is a Texan, he'd be curtains by week 3 with Chris Clark starting.


The Houston Texans have taken care of some depth at offensive line which went unnoticed by many

The Houston Texans continue to watch the days move and sit patiently while most are wondering what the team is trying to accomplish. The organization has moved Brock Osweiler, freeing up $10 million in cap space, and has lost four of its own players from the 2016 roster as they head to new teams via free agency. Most expected for the Texans to cut checks to fill holes in the roster but that is not the plan at the moment, with the Tony Romo situation sitting on the back burner.

As much as many want movement from the Texans this off-season, using the 2016 off-season as a barometer, that off-season was an outlier on how the Texans usually conduct business in free agency. The Texans went all in with Brock Osweiler but had solid deals for Lamar Miller ($6.5M APY), Jeff Allen ($7M APY), and Tony Bergstrom ($2.87 APY).

Many felt that the Texans would be moving on from both Tony Bergstrom and Chris Clark heading into this next season but given their contracts and how the market is out of control for offensive linemen, the market has positioned the two as valuable depth players. Bergstrom enters the second year of his 2-year deal worth $5.75 million, while Clark enters his final year of his 2-year deal worth $6 million. Those two deals would rank them on the bottom end of the contracts handed out this off-season but remember these are depth signings from the start.

The Texans know they have to find a starting caliber right tackle and that was shown with early inquires on Ricky Wagner and Mike Remmers when free agency kicked off. Wagner and Remmers are two tackles who have played at a decent level but their contracts were high dollar when it was all said and done.

Besides an inflated market for offensive linemen, the Texans make it a habit to do their free agent shopping when most do not realize it is taking place.

What do we mean?

The Texans make it habit, when they sign players at any point, to have a long term outlook on players. Most signings occur to replace injured players, but the Texans make sure to select players who have a trajectory pointing upward for the future to add to their roster.

There are key examples of this over the years, especially in the Bill O’Brien era. Some have been with reserve/futures contracts that were in-season signings.

One player in particular mentioned in private discussion that when he was signed by the Texans, he was told from the start that the team wanted him to learn the system and it would be a learning period for the remainder of the season. The following season, they would want to see him put what he learned in that short time on the field and give him a chance to stay on the roster. The Texans kept an eye on this particular player since college, showing overt interest, and when they had an opportunity to finally sign him, they did. This player had a chance to play on game days and become an intergral part of the roster, filling in on key spots and making plays.

Which leads us to this off-season: why are the Texans not making moves, especially for the offensive line?

There were two key signings that most brushed off during the season, offensive guard/tackle Josh Walker and offensive tackle Laurence Gibson. Walker has experience at right guard and tackle, while Gibson is considered a swing tackle with his better fit at right tackle. Both Walker and Gibson have had time to learn the system and, most importantly, are thought of highly inside the building.

Walker played some regular season games with the Green Bay Packers mainly at right guard. The 6’5”, 328 lbs. offensive lineman is only in his 2nd season out of Middle Tennessee State and is a youth signing who the Texans are trying to develop. Walker even played in two games for the Texans in 2016 and was signed immediately to the 53-man roster when he arrived.

As for Gibson, the 6’6”, 305 lbs. offensive tackle was a 7th round pick by the Dallas Cowboys in the 2015 NFL Draft. Gibson was an NFL Combine invite and was in the top five in his position group with a 5.04 sec. 40-yard dash, 33.5 inch vertical jump, 113 broad jump, and a 4.56 20-yard shuttle. The tape on him coming out of Virginia Tech showed NFL-level ability with inconsistent tape, but has the tools all teams want to develop. The Texans had him visit NRG Stadium for a pre-draft visit in 2015, which shows the Texans have been interested in sometime in Gibson.

The Texans have young players in-house who they have been working with to develop in both Walker and Gibson. Gibson arrived in late October of 2015 while Gibson signed early December, allowing both players time to develop in the system.

If the Texans would have had on the transaction report that the team signed offensive lineman Josh Walker and Laurence Gibson, most would feel better about the Texans “trying” to do something to help their roster.

As onlookers wait for the Texans to start making moves, the Texans have already done so in order to get ready for the upcoming season. They continue to make signings when people least expect it, ensuring they have depth and beating the mad rush as other franchises overpay players. The Texans really concentrate on young players they have put the time into with the draft process so they are ready to go a few years down the road.

The depth is already in-house, now it is about finding that front line player who the Texans can trust for the long haul for the season.
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Unless they have something already in the works for Romo but just haven't pulled the trigger, the Texans should just sign Cutler, draft a QB high and roll with that. I can't imagine they're actually sitting back waiting on Romo's release like a dude waiting for his crush to break up with her bf.

Also:
http://www.houstonpress.com/news/romo-watch-2017-is-jerry-jones-scared-of-the-houston-texans-9285810
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From Chron:

Besides ridding themselves of an unwanted, ineffective and expensive quarterback in Brock Osweiler, the Texans haven't been entirely inactive this offseason.

They retained three key players from last season: tight end Ryan Griffin (three years, $9 million, punter Shane Lechler (one year, $2 million) and kicker Nick Novak (one year, $1.15 million), for a combined cost of $12.15 million.

The Texans need reinforcements along the offensive line, especially at right tackle where starter Derek Newton is expected to miss next season after tearing both his patellar tendons against the Broncos last season with Chris Clark struggling as his replacement.

They need help at safety after losing Quintin Demps, who led all players at his position with a career-high six interceptions.

They could use another cornerback since Johnathan Joseph and Kevin Johnson both dealt with injuries over the past few seasons and A.J. Bouye signed with the Jaguars.

"The one thing I'm a little surprised by is they haven't started to address the offensive line in a more meaningful way," said former NFL agent Joel Corry, who writes about the business of football for CBS Sports. "It was kind of a weak link last year, besides the quarterback position. Everyone is harping on the loss of Bouye, but he was a very expensive luxury. Because their cornerback situation is healthy, they can survive that loss.

"I can understand why they passed for the amount of money it would have cost. He was a one-year guy who played great and played his way out of Houston. When you look at the prices on the open market and how well he played even though it was only one year, you knew he was going to be gone."
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From NFL.com

Perfect Pairs: Ideal top two draft picks for Houston Texans

Houston Texans
Perfect draft pair: Alabama OT Cam Robinson (Round 1, pick 25); Florida S Marcus Maye (Round 2, pick 57)

Jeremiah on Robinson: Offensive line seems to be the way the Texans need to go in Round 1. I think Robinson finds his home at right tackle. I think he can be a long-term starter and an upgrade there for Houston. When he's at his best, you see his power and the punch he possesses. He can lock guys down. Robinson gets caught off balance at times, but he has a chance to improve and become a really good player.

Brooks on Maye: Maye can shore up the safety position for the Texans. He's one of the few players who has the ability to play the pass but is also active at the line of scrimmage against the run. This would be a terrific find for Houston.
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not really thrilled about either of those cats, but we'll see what ol Rick is talkin bout
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I appreciate Dallas holding our offseason hostage too. Straight by the nuts.

And we really don't have a choice either; just hope Rick doesn't cave.
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I appreciate Dallas holding our offseason hostage too. Straight by the nuts.

And we really don't have a choice either; just hope Rick doesn't cave.

Right? I think we know enough of how this franchise is run that nothing strategic is going on, it really is Smith and McNair being held hostage. The only way a realistic trade can work is if along with a draft pick, one of our big contracts is also shipped. The only realistic one I can think of is Cushing...
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I appreciate Dallas holding our offseason hostage too. Straight by the nuts.

And we really don't have a choice either; just hope Rick doesn't cave.

welp
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That's how I'd probably approach the draft and going forward I'd take a QB every draft til they get it right.
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That's how I'd probably approach the draft and going forward I'd take a QB every draft til they get it right.

Not mad at all laugh.gif
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Pretty tough read to see all the nothing they've done in the offseason written down vs just hearing about it

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/texans-2017-nfl-draft-reset-figuring-out-the-quarterback-quandary-is-priority-no-1/
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Article dealing with the Texans' "Seven Best Options" at QB. Wanted to not even read the rest of the article after "The Houston Texans were a complete mess at quarterback in 2016. As hard as it is to believe, they’re even worse off now than they were last season. Brock Osweiler wasn’t good, but at least he had potential". If they watched that season, they'd realize that's completely false

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/houston-texans-tony-romo-quarterback-options-draft-free-agency-players-041017
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The Houston Texans set to cut Tony Bergstrom after one season.

In the first transaction in nearly a month, the Houston Texans are set to cut offensive lineman Tony Bergstrom after one season. The Texans signed Bergstrom to a two year deal worth $5.75 million with $1.5 million guaranteed.

Bergstrom was scheduled to have a $3.25 million cap charge with a $2.625 million salary in 2017. With the release of Bergstrom the Texans with releasing Bergstrom will create a $2.875 million net cap savings leaving only $375,000 in dead money.

Bergstrom played one offensive snap in 2016 and helped on special teams.

Bergstrom is in his 6th season in the NFL after playing at Utah. He has appeared in 40 games in his career with 4 starts.


I actually thought Bergstrom's contract was more than that, but oh well
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The Houston Texans have picked up the fifth-year option of star pass rusher Jadeveon Clowney, according to ESPN Texans’ reporter Sarah Barshop.

Clowney is entering the final year of his current rookie contract, but now that his fifth-year option has been exercised, he’ll be signed through the 2018 season as well.

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Texans schedule officially out. I will not make the slightest prediction until afar after the draft. Hell, probably Preseason laugh.gif

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The Texans will have star-studded lineup of guest announcers for selections in this week’s NFL Draft, including two U.S. astronauts and a pair of former first-round picks.

Throughout the league, current and former players will reveal their team’s picks on Day 2. Andre Johnson, the franchise’s all-time leading receiver, two-time All-Pro, and seven-time Pro Bowler will reveal Houston’s second-round pick. Inside linebacker Brian Cushing, the team’s 2016 Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee and all-time leading tackler, will announce the third-round pick in Philadelphia.

The final day of the draft kicks off with two picks from Space Center Houston. From the International Space Station, astronaut Peggy Whitson will introduce the selection. Back on Earth, retired astronaut Scott Kelly will make the live announcement from Space Center Houston, joined by TORO and the Houston Texans cheerleaders.

Whitson broke the record for cumulative time in space by a U.S. astronaut when she surpassed 535 days on April 24. Kelly, an avid Texans fan, was part of the first-ever one-year mission aboard the International Space Station which landed last March.

A Texans fan, selected by the NFL, will announce Houston’s seventh-round pick. The Texans do not have a sixth-round selection in the 2017 NFL Draft.

The 2017 NFL Draft takes place Thursday, April 27 through Saturday, April 29 in Philadelphia. The Texans currently hold the following picks (overall):

Round 1: 25th
Round 2: 57th
Round 3: 89th
Round 4: 130th and 142nd (compensatory pick from Cleveland Browns)
Round 5: 169th
Round 7: 243rd
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